I'm not going to explain the meaning of devil's advocate as I believe you already know the definition.
I fail to see where two sides come into this story.
What I do see is endemic and ingrained racism on a daily basis in this country and exhibited on this forum.
If calling that into question and labelling it as "causing trouble", then so be it.
As someone who has been around maybe a few more years I really don t see racism getting worse. In fairness you may be in a better position to judgeVery gutted and annoyed about this. I take pride in the fact I've never heard any racist comments or chants in the 22 years I've been going up the city. Being mixed race myself it's something I'm very sensitive about and I'm ashamed that coventry 'fans' are dishing out these sort of comments. I genuinely think things are getting worse for this sort of behaviour and it's a massive shame. People's true colours come out from behind a keyboard, and whoever did this is quite frankly, an utter c*nt.
What if in the heat of the moment, face to face, I call someone a ni**er face to face in an argument?
As someone who has been around maybe a few more years I really don t see racism getting worse. In fairness you may be in a better position to judge
There is still an awful lot of racism about unfortunately.
Not acceptable full stop.
As I am not a racist I would never use such a word no matter how angry I got.
'Heat of the moment' doesn't wash.
Don't think 'fecking useless' is a racial slur somehow.
I called David bell fucking useless in the heat if the moment, surely you can make allowances for that?
Very gutted and annoyed about this. I take pride in the fact I've never heard any racist comments or chants in the 22 years I've been going up the city. Being mixed race myself it's something I'm very sensitive about and I'm ashamed that coventry 'fans' are dishing out these sort of comments. I genuinely think things are getting worse for this sort of behaviour and it's a massive shame. People's true colours come out from behind a keyboard, and whoever did this is quite frankly, an utter c*nt.
I'm not being funny but ghd whole racism thing annoys me..I can guarantee 80%+ people on here use or have used racist wording aimed at somebody not always to their face but behind closed doors or in your car..I'm afraid the racist term is thrown around very lightly and only evergoes one way.I'm sick to death as a white Brit of having to hear about racism as if it never gets aimed at whites..if it is its a very different attitude...I'm not racist but I don't condone an angry outburst like some ..it amazes me the whole hypocrisy of the term racism...let's just renamed it non whiteism and be done with it and then we can all go hug a tree
Can somebody tell me if their is a difference between being called a black c**t and a welsh c**t for example
I have never ever used racist wording against anyone.
My philosophy in life is to treat everyone as an individual and everyone on their own individual merits. Therefore I would never have any reason to call anyone a Welsh cnut or a Scottish cnut or indeed a black one.
If they are a cnut they are a cnut anyway and not because they are Welsh, Scottish or black.
Racism works both ways not one way.
White people can be racially slurred too.
And I can only repeat, I have never used racist language against anyone. If you treat every person as an individual it makes it pretty impossible to be that way.
Racism works both ways ...lol don't think so..eveybody from the police to the courts have proved this in the past .
It's a massively lob sided subject
I didn't say it wasn't lob sided. Just saying black people can be racist against whites too and it does happen.
The lob sided thing has some relevance though doesn't it. Considering most slaves over the last 200 years have indeed been black.
I'm inclined to agree with you Macca, but we must remember that it is always a minority involved in racism or any kind of football misdemeanours. The problem arises when that minority act more frequently and then you get to the situation where all fans are tarred with the same brush, which is totally unfair.
I know lots of Leeds fans who are good mates of mine, but overall I'd still say Leeds fans are wankers because the good are overshadowed by the minority who are wankers. We need to be careful we don't get that same reputation, there have been a few incidents recently (Brighton away, Yeovil etc) that could damage our reputation as fans and I can't say I'm overly pleased about it.
Why are you sensitive about racism just because your mixed race ..again proving my point that its a term only used one way..I'm sorry but everybody seems to have lost touch of what racism actually is.
I think the term in the dictionary should read, RACISM...where white people should. Shut their trap but acceptable and ignored if said by others.
Maybe we should spend the rest of our life saying sorry to all the countries we destroyed during the empire aswel.its history the past ,gone ,doesn't happen anymore..this country is unbelievably tolerent .what about treatment of white farmers in Africa..let's overlook it shall we.but that's ok because we have to even things up from history
Hold tight sunshine, where did I say it only goes one way, my dad is white and got racist abuse off a couple of black youths when we were walking through Birmingham, the game when Marlon King put us 1-0 up, and I kicked off (verbal only, I'd probably have got battered) and stuck up for him.
My ex was Chinese and used to get abuse of everyone, I always stuck up for her even though she didn't want me too and got into several scuffles.
I've stuck up for Asian friends at school/college and university from abuse from black and white people.
I am sensitive to it both, no ALL ways.
So don't go putting words into my mouth for your 'Us whites are so hard done by' crusade.:jerkit:
Hold tight sunshine, where did I say it only goes one way, my dad is white and got racist abuse off a couple of black youths when we were walking through Birmingham, the game when Marlon King put us 1-0 up, and I kicked off (verbal only, I'd probably have got battered) and stuck up for him.
My ex was Chinese and used to get abuse of everyone, I always stuck up for her even though she didn't want me too and got into several scuffles.
I've stuck up for Asian friends at school/college and university from abuse from black and white people.
I am sensitive to it both, no ALL ways.
So don't go putting words into my mouth for your 'Us whites are so hard done by' crusade.:jerkit:
Oh, and point dis-proven I think.
Most of the 'white farmers' in Africa are horrible Dutch c-units anyway. feck 'em.
Racism does work both ways and if you read some of what rio ferdinand says - he is one of the biggest culprits
bollocks mate..don't give me that..if I came up to you and said white boy you wouldn't bat an eyelid..other way youd baseball bat my eyelid..I'm not racist but im a realist. It's how it is these days.
Maybe we should spend the rest of our life saying sorry to all the countries we destroyed during the empire aswel.its history the past ,gone ,doesn't happen anymore..this country is unbelievably tolerent .what about treatment of white farmers in Africa..let's overlook it shall we
I must have made all of that up then!
Conversation over.
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