A controversial statement on this forumI'm just really happy
Absolutely, agree with that, but nothing wrong with being lucky. Not a criticism as I said he finds a way. You could even argue there was luck in promotions however. Crept into 6th in L2 and had some luck in both semis v NC, then a season curtailed by covid for the second promotion. I think we'd have won that league, but no guarantee and we'll of course take it. Even the maligned Slade got him to his first Wembley victory. None of this is to demean his achievements and I hope he goes on being 'lucky for him and us.
I'm not sure if I not explaining myself or if nobody is getting the point I making. I've not said Robins isn't any good. We're allowed to question decisions and disagree without calling for a taxi.
All I'm trying to say is if as a few examples we didn't get that pen v NC or the offside called in the second leg, if covid doesn't happen, if both subs today weren't quite as effective, if the ref blows before Godden scores today if, if, if. None of those are things he can control, none would have been his fault, but they could have happened. Thankfully they didn't, but fine margins and Thankfully we have someone who seems to fall on the right side of those fine margins and long may it continue.
As always you want one of our players to fail and you seem to have found your latest boo boy (it really is incredibly tiring for the rest of us) - as a supposed fan of this club - seek help.
if covid doesn't happen... None of those are things he can control, none would have been his fault, but they could have happened. Thankfully they didn't
Disagree. The most under rated player at the club is McFadz.Hyam is the most under rated player at our club by our fans. He's an excellent defender.
I'm not sure if I not explaining myself or if nobody is getting the point I making. I've not said Robins isn't any good. We're allowed to question decisions and disagree without calling for a taxi.
All I'm trying to say is if as a few examples we didn't get that pen v NC or the offside called in the second leg, if covid doesn't happen, if both subs today weren't quite as effective, if the ref blows before Godden scores today if, if, if. None of those are things he can control, none would have been his fault, but they could have happened. Thankfully they didn't, but fine margins and Thankfully we have someone who seems to fall on the right side of those fine margins and long may it continue.
I'm not sure if I not explaining myself or if nobody is getting the point I making. I've not said Robins isn't any good. We're allowed to question decisions and disagree without calling for a taxi.
All I'm trying to say is if as a few examples we didn't get that pen v NC or the offside called in the second leg, if covid doesn't happen, if both subs today weren't quite as effective, if the ref blows before Godden scores today if, if, if. None of those are things he can control, none would have been his fault, but they could have happened. Thankfully they didn't, but fine margins and Thankfully we have someone who seems to fall on the right side of those fine margins and long may it continue.
Yeah sorry!!I’ve stopped coming on here so quickly after wins because it just kills my buzz. How can you watch a last second winner, which sees us take 9 points from 12 and find time to argue about the manager.
Anyway:
8 - Hyam, Sheaf, O’Hare, Hamer, Gyk
7.5 - Moore, McFadz
7 - Dabo, Dacosta, Maatsen
6.5 - Waghorn
Fans -10
Robins - 10
Best thing that happened to this club in 20 years.
Yeah sorry!!
I’ve stopped coming on here so quickly after wins because it just kills my buzz. How can you watch a last second winner, which sees us take 9 points from 12 and find time to argue about the manager.
Anyway:
8 - Hyam, Sheaf, O’Hare, Hamer, Gyk
7.5 - Moore, McFadz
7 - Dabo, Dacosta, Maatsen
6.5 - Waghorn
Fans -10
Robins - 10
Best thing that happened to this club in 20 years.
I agree with most of these scores still think Dabo did enough to get higher even with the pen.Moore - 7.5 Solid performance
Dacosta - 7.5 I thought he was decent today
Dabo - 6.5 Stupid unnecessary challenge for the pen, did well going forward
Sheaf - 7.5 Great game, but needs to stop needlessly giving the ball away cheaply. He will come good
Mcfaz - 8 Born leader (MOM)
Hyam - 8 Growing as a player
Maatsen - 7 Put some great crosses in. I like him
Hamer - 6.5 Meh!
Ohare - 7.5 Should be less but it's Callum
Waghorn - 5 I didn't realise he was playing until the second half
Gyojeres - 8 scared them half to death in the first half.
Allen - 7 Took his goal well
Godden - 7.5 He's back!
So to take your point all the times it went against us we were unlucky and all the times it didn't luck wasn't involved, but my point makes zero sense err ok!And how many times have these fine margins gone against us over the years? sorry but your point makes zero sense. It has nothing to do with luck in fact we are notoriously unlucky, Robins has just done an amazing job to get us where we are on and off the pitch
So to take your point all the times it went against us we were unlucky and all the times it didn't luck wasn't involved, but my point makes zero sense err ok!
Robins has done an amazing job, I've acknowledged that and agree. I don't see why it's so hard to comprehend that we've had some luck along the way which as you point out we've not had in other eras. All I've actually said is it's nice to get that luck for a change and he seems therefore to be a manager who has luck- that's not a criticism, it's actually a good thing but my posts are being pulled apart as if I've suggested phoning 555555
Yes.Would you say he has been ‘net’ lucky on balance?
Yes.
Me too massivelyDisagree but each to their own
Me too.Disagree but each to their own
Me too.
If Aguero hadn't of scored in extra time Man Utd would have won the league, so is that good luck for City and Bad luck for United or just a balance over the whole season?
Disagree but each to their own
He has had some luck in terms of having a preferred system that he's then had to change due to injuries (Andreu/Jones/Jobello) which has worked in our favour.
Of course he had to get those changes right, but you do wonder if he'd have changed those systems if those players had remained available, as we were doing OK with them but didn't look like promotion material.
Not meant to demean him...whilst Doing just that.Absolutely, agree with that, but nothing wrong with being lucky. Not a criticism as I said he finds a way. You could even argue there was luck in promotions however. Crept into 6th in L2 and had some luck in both semis v NC, then a season curtailed by covid for the second promotion. I think we'd have won that league, but no guarantee and we'll of course take it. Even the maligned Slade got him to his first Wembley victory. None of this is to demean his achievements and I hope he goes on being 'lucky for him and us.
Who’s to say those players fit in the intended system wouldn’t have done the business? I think the Birmingham exile counts big in the bad luck column purely for the financial implications as much as anything else. On balance I think the luck is net zero at best
If I was mr I would have made so much of my changes winning the gameWe can never know, but going on how the team were playing pre-injuries we'd have had to improve quite a bit to be as good as we were post injuries.
We just seemed to look better almost immediately when those changes were enforced on the team, and given we kept using those new systems suggests we were improved.
As I said, MR had to make those changes and came up with something that worked - he could well have kept the system and shoehorned players into it but didn't - so he deserves massive credit for that.
Some people are never satisfied. I think part of it is that Robins has set such high standards and expectations that any result or performance that falls below those expectations is put under the microscope moreNot you mate, you were defending the manager that has taken us from league 2 to absolutely dominating games in the championship, with 2 Wembley wins on the way. Imagine having to defend that man to fans of the actual club he’s done that for.
If I was mr I would have made so much of my changes winning the game
Despite this we completely dominated the game and had we been more ruthless we would have been out of sight. Why can’t you admit we performed well and deserved the win?he played the wrong team twice and won with a 97th minute winner having corrected his own errors
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