olderskyblue
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And there was me thinking you rate Allen on your previous view of him, then try to justify it….
And there was me thinking you rate Allen on your previous view of him, then try to justify it….Send BNC and JWE back TBH. Seen nothing to suggest they’re the answer.
He was head and shoulders above the rest so he gets a comparative 7. He did more to get us ticking than anyone else. He made some bad passes that’s why he’s not higher but he actually tried to make things happen.
I don’t think Vik was terrible tonight. He missed a sitter, which he does a lot. He just wasn’t brilliant.
Allen was poor and being handed the ball in the final third and asked to pass it three yards doesn’t change that TBH.
I rate players over 90 minutes not on their highlight reel.
Wilson 7 (was more confident than normal)
McNally 6 (best out bad cbs)
Doyle 5 (probably the worst this season)
Panzo 2 (clumsy and can’t pass a ball 2 ft)
BNC 2 (rather have dabo or Kane)
Hamer 8 (motm but still pretty poor)
Sheaf 6 (started slow grew into it but to late)
Bidwell 6 (done his job nothing more)
Allen 4 (did he play?)
Palmer 5 (don’t nothing)
Gyokeres 6 (marked out the game)
JWE 6 (most effective sub)
Eccles 5 (had one go move with a shit cross)
Godden 4 (don’t think he touched the ball)
Maguire 4 (don’t think he got out our own half)
won’t judge subs to much so take with lunch if salt when they was in we was already pinned back, and when we won the ball panzo just gave it back to them.
And there was me thinking you rate Allen on your previous view of him, then try to justify it….
He did not create the second, the WBA player who made a terrible pass made the second.
Palmer continually drew fouls and nearly scored if his shot wasn’t blocked, he also tried to break the lines something Allen never does. Always sideways and backwards which for an AM is criminal. Allen look surprised every time he receives the ball and has the touch of a brick wall. At one point his touch was so bad he took us from the edge of their area to the halfway line chasing the ball.
Sheaf made 7 tackles, more than the back three combined.
personal cause?Well you’d think wrong. The couple of times I’ve thought he’s had a good game I’ve said so. But I’m done watching him utterly fail to impact a game and constantly lose control of the ball and break down our attacking flow. So when he does that I’ll say because I’ve not taken it as a personal cause to defend everything he does.
He could have had two assists last night if Vik finished, is that impacting the game?Well you’d think wrong. The couple of times I’ve thought he’s had a good game I’ve said so. But I’m done watching him utterly fail to impact a game and constantly lose control of the ball and break down our attacking flow. So when he does that I’ll say because I’ve not taken it as a personal cause to defend everything he does.
Given when he scores he isn't, don't expect merely passing the ball to!He could have had two assists last night if Vik finished, is that impacting the game?
He created the second by his pressing anticipating the mistake.
Palmer attempted just 11 passes in 60 minutes of football completing just 7 of them (63%). He was hardly involved. 0 key passes.
You can argue that Allen plays it safe, but last night 2 key passes creating our 2 best chances. Creating the first playing a 1-2 with Hamer making a good run in behind. Then choosing the right pass across the goal.
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He could have had two assists last night if Vik finished, is that impacting the game?
That's fine, he's in the position to make the key pass. Where was Palmer?His two “key passes” were three yards to Vik and a ball across the six yard box when put through by Gus. I’ll credit him with the run to be there for that ball but he’s hardly threading balls through the defence or creating his own chances.
I’m not sure what other pass you’d have made there to say he chose the right one.
That's fine, he's in the position to make the key pass. Where was Palmer?
This thread is called ratings wbaPalmer was very poor last night but his key pass and chance creation stats are miles ahead of Allen's over the season.
This thread is called ratings wba
To be fair.Palmer was very poor last night but his key pass and chance creation stats are miles ahead of Allen's over the season.
To be fair.
A) this thread and discussion is purely about the WBA game
B) Palmer is a set piece taker so like Hamer it will inflate some of those stats compared with a player who doesn't take set pieces.
I think I have Allen a 6, which isn't particularly high. He wasnt great last night, but he did offer more than Palmer who spent half of the game hiding.
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Agree with those but I think you are being overly harsh on Norton-Cuffy.Wilson - 6 - could have done better for the goal, and another throw where he was rooted, but was fine other than that.
BNC - 3 - so poor. Offered nothing offensively and was poor defensively, including the goal. Anonymous too. Massively anti climatic signing as it stands.
McNally - 5 - mixed game defensively and not great on the ball.
Doyle - 5 - should have done better for the goal. But fine overall.
Panzo - 4 - poor game yesterday, especially on the ball.
Bidwell - 5 - his strength is defensive and his was poor at that.
Sheaf - 5 - not at his best, but don’t think he has the shocker others have stated. Didn’t hide either.
Hamer - 6 - probably best of a bad bunch. Tried to push us on, and we’ll always accept that will come with some missed passes, but was a lot of bad passes last night.
Allen - 5 - his harrying created a good chance but he also should have done better with his. I do get what he adds, but I also want more.
Palmer - 5 - classic Palmer, looks like he can make stuff happen when on the ball, but not on it enough
Gyokeres - 6 - didn’t get much service and when he did he was fouled a lot with little protection. Missed a very good chance.
Subs
JWE - 6 - great initial impact, poor after that.
Eccles - 6 - I wouldn’t class him as an attacking RWB, but he was way more effective.
Maguire - N/A - not on long and not judging but he did seem to stumble over his feet and not get to a fairly easy pass.
Kelly - N/A - but no idea why he came on.
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