I didnt give 7s and 8s vs Hull. I thought we were poor but better than HullThis forum amazes me sometimes. On Saturday we played the worst team we’ve played all season and because we win everyone scores 7’s and 8’s yet we were brought down to their standard on only just beat them.
Tonight we play arguably the best team we’ve played all season. We were shit for the first 15 minutes and we’ve got 2’s, 3’s and 4’s everywhere. Had their 2nd goal been ruled out for the offside everyone would have scored 6’s and 7’s.
Agree with most scores and reasoning but a point off Hamer Allen and Jones.Moore 6 (could have got a stronger hand on first goal. Excellent reactive save later)
Dabo 6 (like a few started slowly but improved. Got into some good positions but didn't do enough with crosses. Unlucky with left foot curler at the end)
Maatsen 5 (exposed far too often by a very good player)
Hyam 6 (got lucky when Fadz rescued things but was otherwise steady and made a good block which may have been going in)
McFadzean 7 (played with some urgency from the back. Great header and should have had another)
Clarke-Salter 5 (he had a start not too different to the Luton game, looking slow with his reactions resulting in a very poor clearance for first goal and some woeful passing. Thankfully improved after first quarter)
Hamer 7 (some quality cross field passing and close to threading it through a few times. Set pieces were better than of recent)
Allen 7 (kept the ball well and made some great runs that were not often spotted)
O'Hare 5 (it goes without saying that his industry deserves so much respect but his use of the ball was so poor)
Godden 5 (worked hard but frustratingly finding himself in offside positions)
Gyokeres 5 (some great runs but decision making poor)
Jones 6 (didn't do anything wrong. Kept the ball well and should have been given a cutback from Gyokeres which he pulled away from his marker to receive)
This forum amazes me sometimes. On Saturday we played the worst team we’ve played all season and because we win everyone scores 7’s and 8’s yet we were brought down to their standard on only just beat them.
Tonight we play arguably the best team we’ve played all season. We were shit for the first 15 minutes and we’ve got 2’s, 3’s and 4’s everywhere. Had their 2nd goal been ruled out for the offside everyone would have scored 6’s and 7’s.
I thought we were average at best on Saturday, i thought we were poor tonight and I also don’t think they were anywhere near arguably the best team we’ve played all season personally
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3’s absolutely nonsenseThis might seem a little harsh:
Moore 5
Dabo 4
Hyam 5
McFadz 6
JCS 4
Maatsen 4
Hamer 4
Allen 4
O'Hare 3
Godden 3
Gyo 4
McFadz did ok, but other than that I don't think anyone came out of it well.
Dabo looked knackered flying past their players on the runs last 15? Did you go!Moore 5 - Could be wrong but thought he could have came out and cleared for the second goal when the original ball was played through
Hyam - 6
Fadz - 6
JCS 5 - wasn’t as bad a people are saying. Poor first 15 but was pretty good and adapted quite well after that
Dabo 4 - Dissapointing. Looked knackered after 50 mins. Final ball really let’s him down. Would definitely bring Kane in for Bristol City.
Maatsen 4 - horrific first 35 mins defensively. Quite good after that
Hamer 4 - tried to pass it through players all the time. Frustrating player this season.
Allen 5 - ok. First touch took him backwards a lot but the tidiest of the midfield.
Ohare 2 - pass completion must have been 10% at max. Big fan of him but he has to start doing more at the edge of the box. Probably our biggest problem is we have absolutely no options in his position.
Godden 5 - quite good first half anonymous second. Still looks a lot quicker and stronger than last season.
Vik 6 - actually thought he was quite good. Massively underused him by not playing any balls for him to chase into the channels.
Jodi 5 - Doesn’t look like he’s going to get back to how he was really. Nowhere near this level currently. Might just need time
No idea why Walker came on so late
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Haha! Which game were you watching?Terrible game from our point of view. We were chasing it early on and despite the goal never looked like getting a second. Swansea were in total control after going two up and they had so much space. Their keeper was taking the piss and passing it around for fun.
Missed the first few minutes after queueing up for over 20 minutes. All round shit night.
Bloke by me thought godden was motm because of his hair.
Dabo looked knackered flying past their players on the runs last 15? Did you go!
Moore 6 thought he could have saved the first and why didn’t he come out for the second?? Very strange
Dabo 6 needs to do better with his crossing unlucky with the shot
Maatsen 6.5 thought he kept going well after being embarrassed by laird first 20
Jcs 5 poor header and didn’t back maatsen up well. Improved but still looked likely to make a mistake
McFadzean - 7 good goal
Hyam - 6.5 how can you score him lower than Jcs? Thought his passing was excellent second half
Allen - 6 wrong game for him but his energy and endeavour were not in question . Good touch and found space
Hamer - 7 was worried after early booking but I thought he was good second half. Range of passing and he was always looking to get us moving forward
Ohare 6 shocking miss when chance presented on a plate. He is not at the level he was at but everything good tends to go through him
Gyokeres - 6.5 unlucky for me with his first half chance some good runs wound me up when he didn’t just pass the ball to someone in the middle when clean through
Godden - 6 didn’t stop running. He is always looking for the through ball which is why he’s often offside. I thought the link up with gyokeres on occasion was excellent
Jones - 5 nice touches but loathed to take players on or work space for a shot. Not sure he’s ever going to make it. Was good for him to get some minutes
walker -na should have been given at least 15 mins for me
Robins -6 can’t legislate for poor play but I thought we were too open with Allen for sheaf. Earlier subs and walker for longer may have led to a point
3’s nah bollox you’re having a laugh
Moore 6 thought he could have saved the first and why didn’t he come out for the second?? Very strange
Dabo 6 needs to do better with his crossing unlucky with the shot
Maatsen 6.5 thought he kept going well after being embarrassed by laird first 20
Jcs 5 poor header and didn’t back maatsen up well. Improved but still looked likely to make a mistake
McFadzean - 7 good goal
Hyam - 6.5 how can you score him lower than Jcs? Thought his passing was excellent second half
Allen - 6 wrong game for him but his energy and endeavour were not in question . Good touch and found space
Hamer - 7 was worried after early booking but I thought he was good second half. Range of passing and he was always looking to get us moving forward
Ohare 6 shocking miss when chance presented on a plate. He is not at the level he was at but everything good tends to go through him
Gyokeres - 6.5 unlucky for me with his first half chance some good runs wound me up when he didn’t just pass the ball to someone in the middle when clean through
Godden - 6 didn’t stop running. He is always looking for the through ball which is why he’s often offside. I thought the link up with gyokeres on occasion was excellent
Jones - 5 nice touches but loathed to take players on or work space for a shot. Not sure he’s ever going to make it. Was good for him to get some minutes
walker -na should have been given at least 15 mins for me
Robins -6 can’t legislate for poor play but I thought we were too open with Allen for sheaf. Earlier subs and walker for longer may have led to a point
3’s nah bollox you’re having a laugh
It may all be a master plan but yes, in theory 5-10 minute cameos in matches the result is known would have put him in better stead for tonight when needed.For me can’t be too critical of Jones tonight. He’s been thrown on this season for the first time in that position and looked lost. Why have we not been given him 10/20 minutes in games already won/lost?
At last realistic ratings not ott ratings because we lostMoore 6 thought he could have saved the first and why didn’t he come out for the second?? Very strange
Dabo 6 needs to do better with his crossing unlucky with the shot
Maatsen 6.5 thought he kept going well after being embarrassed by laird first 20
Jcs 5 poor header and didn’t back maatsen up well. Improved but still looked likely to make a mistake
McFadzean - 7 good goal
Hyam - 6.5 how can you score him lower than Jcs? Thought his passing was excellent second half
Allen - 6 wrong game for him but his energy and endeavour were not in question . Good touch and found space
Hamer - 7 was worried after early booking but I thought he was good second half. Range of passing and he was always looking to get us moving forward
Ohare 6 shocking miss when chance presented on a plate. He is not at the level he was at but everything good tends to go through him
Gyokeres - 6.5 unlucky for me with his first half chance some good runs wound me up when he didn’t just pass the ball to someone in the middle when clean through
Godden - 6 didn’t stop running. He is always looking for the through ball which is why he’s often offside. I thought the link up with gyokeres on occasion was excellent
Jones - 5 nice touches but loathed to take players on or work space for a shot. Not sure he’s ever going to make it. Was good for him to get some minutes
walker -na should have been given at least 15 mins for me
Robins -6 can’t legislate for poor play but I thought we were too open with Allen for sheaf. Earlier subs and walker for longer may have led to a point
3’s nah bollox you’re having a laugh
That's it isn't it? Ratings are given by emotional fans. I get it .it's an emotional sport. But most ppl can calm down at some point and say actually I've been a bit harsh there.At last realistic ratings not ott ratings because we lost
You'll laugh, but he worked hard which was needed. Gave the ball away a lot less than Hamer and O'Hare.
Hamer was immense. He couldn't do it all tonight by himself. Even though he was willing.He gave the ball away less than O'Hare yes, but not Hamer.
Hamer was playing in midfield on his own most of the night
ThisHe gave the ball away less than O'Hare yes, but not Hamer.
Hamer was playing in midfield on his own most of the night
I didnt give 7s and 8s vs Hull. I thought we were poor but better than Hull
We were poor for the majority of tonight not just the first 15. We had some good moment though. Second half was a masterclass at how to see a game out.
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We’ve I’ve been saying give jones a go for O’Hare,been games O’Hare clearly shattered and he won’t take him offFor me can’t be too critical of Jones tonight. He’s been thrown on this season for the first time in that position and looked lost. Why have we not been given him 10/20 minutes in games already won/lost?
We’ve I’ve been saying give jones a go for O’Hare,been games O’Hare clearly shattered and he won’t take him off
Yup hasn’t featured at all unless he’s been flying in training but still walker has been scoringIt’s awfully strange. Bringing him on tonight was an admission of running out of ideas
It’s awfully strange. Bringing him on tonight was an admission of running out of ideas
He gave the ball away less than O'Hare yes, but not Hamer.
Hamer was playing in midfield on his own most of the night
Yup hasn’t featured at all unless he’s been flying in training but still walker has been scoring
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