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SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 4, 2021

I didn't think kane looked like a wing back to be honest, he's looks a bit slow, can't really go past his man or get behind the opposition full backs. Doesn't looks to have the engine to get up and down the right flank by himself.

IF we can create space for him he can deliver a good cross but think he would look better in a back 4 with a natural winger playing in front of him.

Nick · Dec 4, 2021

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
This year he is 7th highest in the league for key passes per game

Not Key passes per game, does his key pass that was massively overhit today count towards that?

Anybody can find a stat like that to suit and make a tweet

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 4, 2021

Nick said:
Not Key passes per game, does his key pass that was massively overhit today count towards that?

Anybody can find a stat like that to suit and make a tweet

I'm talking about the season as whole, I'm not making it suit anything. That's just the statistic based on the whole season, not just based on one bad game.

Anyone can pick a bad game and use it to say how poor a player is.

Grendel · Dec 4, 2021

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
I didn't think kane looked like a wing back to be honest, he's looks a bit slow, can't really go past his man or get behind the opposition full backs. Doesn't looks to have the engine to get up and down the right flank by himself.

IF we can create space for him he can deliver a good cross but think he would look better in a back 4 with a natural winger playing in front of him.

he’s played I think 200 games at championship level and many at wing back - he’s far quicker the Dabo

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Dec 4, 2021

Grendel said:
he’s played I think 200 games at championship level and many at wing back - he’s far quicker the Dabo

He didn't look it today

pusbccfc · Dec 4, 2021

Grendel said:
he’s played I think 200 games at championship level and many at wing back - he’s far quicker the Dabo

He's far better going forward too.

Dabo has 1 assist in two seasons in the Championship. These powerful runs he goes on look pretty but his end product is shocking.

I love Dabo, but as a wing back he should be creating more opportunities and being involved in more goals. He hasn't even scored a single goal for Coventry.

pusbccfc · Dec 4, 2021

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
He didn't look it today

Kane was disappointing today. Some poor crosses in the first half.

SkyblueDad · Dec 4, 2021

pusbccfc said:
He's far better going forward too.

Dabo has 1 assist in two seasons in the Championship. These powerful runs he goes on look pretty but his end product is shocking.

I love Dabo, but as a wing back he should be creating more opportunities and being involved in more goals. He hasn't even scored a single goal for Coventry.

End product is important it’s sadly lacking at the moment with Dabo.
Also we are missing JCS gives defence much needed balance and Maatsen is much better when alongside him.
Need to keep the back three (not Dabo though) and wing backs imo unless we can bring in better quality especially in midfield. Albion showed us today what better quality brings, they allowed us to play along the back but when it got to the nitty-gritty areas they just nullified them, still we competed and were much better second half, lessons to be learnt, they will.

Frostie · Dec 4, 2021

Nick said:
Not Key passes per game, does his key pass that was massively overhit today count towards that?

Anybody can find a stat like that to suit and make a tweet

But you've picked Assists which is one of the most unreliable stats going?

Do you prefer 'Chances Created'?
For that he's on 41, 7th in the league. Bear in mind though all of his are from open play & everyone above him is a set piece taker. Last time I checked (before last weekend admittedly) he had created most chances from open play in the league.

Nick · Dec 4, 2021

Frostie said:
But you've picked Assists which is one of the most unreliable stats going?

Do you prefer 'Chances Created'?
For that he's on 41, 7th in the league. Bear in mind though all of his are from open play & everyone above him is a set piece taker. Last time I checked (before last weekend admittedly) he had created most chances from open play in the league.

Define "Chance".

Not sure how Assists is unreliable.

Deleted member 9744 · Dec 4, 2021

slowpoke said:
End product is important it’s sadly lacking at the moment with Dabo.
Also we are missing JCS gives defence much needed balance and Maatsen is much better when alongside him.
Need to keep the back three (not Dabo though) and wing backs imo unless we can bring in better quality especially in midfield. Albion showed us today what better quality brings, they allowed us to play along the back but when it got to the nitty-gritty areas they just nullified them, still we competed and were much better second half, lessons to be learnt, they will.

I don't see Maatsen as better with JCS. His best games have always been when JCS isn't in the side. I think he panics because he knows JCS is very susceptible to the wide ball behind him.

Frostie · Dec 4, 2021

Nick said:
Define "Chance".

Not sure how Assists is unreliable.

Typically, only players playing in good teams or particularly high scoring teams will ever get a high number of Assists as it relies on the ability of your teammates to finish opportunities.
As an example, you could roll the ball to a teammate, 3 yards out with an open goal but he inexplicably misses it. (Or just passed to Maupay for Brighton last season )

Assists are still looked at but if used in isolation are therefore unreliable & that is one of the reasons many of these newer stats such as key passes & chances created are used by clubs instead.

Chances created will still include assists but also key passes which is basically any pass that leads to a shot, regardless of if the teammate scores or not. Obviously this is then dominated by set piece takers so need to dig a bit deeper still.

DannyThomas_1981 · Dec 5, 2021

fatso said:
Lol, bloody predicted text!
I'll just say he was shite!

Unfortunately O'hare has become the blue eyed boy for many fans, despite rarely contributing anything apart from throwing himself to the floor at every opportunity.

Come on man - for once I agree with Grendel.
O;Hare is absolutely key for us given his high energy pressing game and always being available for the out ball. And he's not the most fouled player in the League for nothing. He's targeted by the oppo since he is our key man.
To your point - yes I would like to see more goals from O'Hare and our midfielders in general but to call O'Hare abject today or in any other game this season is very harsh.
We all need perspective - WBA, Fulham and Bournemouth are basically Premier League outfits - to be anywhere near competing with the big boys at this point given our rise from L2 is remarkable.

higgs · Dec 5, 2021

For me Dabo v Kane debate I'd start Dabo think he is the better at defending and more powerful but Kane has a better delivery/cross on him maybe bring him on when dabo has emptied the tank for the last 20

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DannyThomas_1981 · Dec 5, 2021

higgs said:
For me Dabo v Kane debate I'd start Dabo think he is the better at defending and more powerful but Kane has a better delivery/cross on him maybe bring him on when dabo has emptied the tank for the last 20

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Fair points. It shows how far we have come to be even having this debate about 2 class right wing banks.

higgs · Dec 5, 2021

Good to have options could do with a bit of competition at left wing back amd attacking midfield aswell to keep everybody on their toes

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CovBrummie94 · Dec 5, 2021

Moore - 6 Did his job. Not much he could’ve done for either goal
Kane - 6 almost created an own goal and got the assist although his crossing was frustrating at times
Dabo - 4 didn’t track his man for the opener. Isn’t a centre back.
McFadz - 8 MOTM. What a season he’s having.
Rose - 6 another steady game. Would like to see him at RCB when JCS is fit.
Maatsen - 5 unlucky to get dragged at HT.
Sheaf - 5 I’m one of his biggest fans but he had an absolute Weston. Should’ve fouled for the opener. Constantly gave the ball away as WBA pressed.
Hamer - 4 looks injured.
O’Hare - 4 offered little. Poor touches throughout. Incredibly frustrating.
Godden - 4 anonymous
Gyokores - 5 well off it. Looks like the Gyokores from last season at the minute.

Hyam - 5 passing was poor but he should be starting over Dabo if fit.
Kelly - 5
Walker - 5

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Blind-Faith · Dec 5, 2021

pusbccfc said:
He's far better going forward too.

Dabo has 1 assist in two seasons in the Championship. These powerful runs he goes on look pretty but his end product is shocking.

I love Dabo, but as a wing back he should be creating more opportunities and being involved in more goals. He hasn't even scored a single goal for Coventry.

Pretty much sums up how I feel aswell. Couldn’t of put it better myself

SkyblueDad · Dec 5, 2021

Deleted member 9744 said:
I don't see Maatsen as better with JCS. His best games have always been when JCS isn't in the side. I think he panics because he knows JCS is very susceptible to the wide ball behind him.

Don’t agree, a fully fit JCS is an essential ingredient to our back line trouble is he’s been playing with and carrying an injury for a while need him back and fully fit asap.

fernandopartridge · Dec 5, 2021

Nick said:
Not Key passes per game, does his key pass that was massively overhit today count towards that?

Anybody can find a stat like that to suit and make a tweet

Oh give it a rest

Reppz · Dec 5, 2021

higgs said:
For me Dabo v Kane debate I'd start Dabo think he is the better at defending and more powerful but Kane has a better delivery/cross on him maybe bring him on when dabo has emptied the tank for the last 20

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We deserve relegation if there are fans with opinions like this

Londonccfcfan · Dec 5, 2021

Nick said:
Define "Chance".

Not sure how Assists is unreliable.

Bed wetter

Londonccfcfan · Dec 5, 2021

Some of the shite you read on here after a defeat is embarrassing.

Adge · Dec 5, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Some of the shite you read on here after a defeat is embarrassing.

Try the match thread when the game is ongoing-another one to stay clear of!

Londonccfcfan · Dec 5, 2021

Adge said:
Try the match thread when the game is ongoing-another one to stay clear of!

No thanks.

Littlewood CCFC · Dec 5, 2021

Reppz said:
We deserve relegation if there are fans with opinions like this

You're a strange chap, you want Robins out and now say we deserve relegation due to someone's opinion? This forums crazy

Grendel · Dec 5, 2021

stupot07 said:
Our form over the last 12 games is 19th in the league, just 3 wins. The wins in the middle against Hull and Bristol look like anomalies

LWDLDWLWDDDL

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I think 10 is relevant as that’s when the goals from the target man stopped. It’s 11 points from then

DannyThomas_1981 · Dec 5, 2021

Reppz said:
We deserve relegation if there are fans with opinions like this

Can someone phone the asylum quick - one of the lunatics has escaped.

Grendel · Dec 5, 2021

DannyThomas_1981 said:
Can someone phone the asylum quick - one of the lunatics has escaped.

We’ve been showing relegation form for the last 10 games - cracks are showing

Londonccfcfan · Dec 5, 2021

Grendel said:
We’ve been showing relegation form for the last 10 games - cracks are showing

Lol

pusbccfc · Dec 5, 2021

Londonccfcfan said:
Lol

He's right.

Our form is borderline relegation form.

We can talk about 'we are still top 3/4/6/10' but the fact is, there is some absolute garbage in this division that we are better than and are not beating.

Not winning at Sheffield United, Birmingham and against Derby is poor. They were dreadful.

DannyThomas_1981 · Dec 5, 2021

Grendel said:
We’ve been showing relegation form for the last 10 games - cracks are showing

My comment was specific to this exchange of views:

higgs said:
For me Dabo v Kane debate I'd start Dabo think he is the better at defending and more powerful but Kane has a better delivery/cross on him maybe bring him on when dabo has emptied the tank for the last 20

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Reppz: We deserve relegation if there are fans with opinions like this

You would surely admit that is borderline crazy.

SeaSeeEffCee · Dec 5, 2021

Does Andy Turner actually go to the games or does he just copy-paste his ratings every week?

Coventry City player ratings after 2-1 defeat to West Brom

The Sky Blues were in action against the Baggies in the Championship's big televised lunchtime kick-off at the CBS Arena

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Nick · Dec 5, 2021

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Does Andy Turner actually go to the games or does he just copy-paste his ratings every week?

Coventry City player ratings after 2-1 defeat to West Brom

The Sky Blues were in action against the Baggies in the Championship's big televised lunchtime kick-off at the CBS Arena

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Jesus Christ.

Frostie · Dec 5, 2021

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Does Andy Turner actually go to the games or does he just copy-paste his ratings every week?

Coventry City player ratings after 2-1 defeat to West Brom

The Sky Blues were in action against the Baggies in the Championship's big televised lunchtime kick-off at the CBS Arena

www.coventrytelegraph.net

Like many fans, he has an irrational inherent bias towards certain players.

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