Referee Analysis (1 Viewer)

Johhny Blue · Dec 12, 2020

With the long thread this week re quality of refs I thought it might be enlightening to analyze each game. My thoughts today were:
He wasn’t swayed by the crowd
He made a good (tough) call for Ostigard’s assist
He got both drop balls wrong
He incorrectly penalized Baka towards the end
He made a lot of mistakes on 50/50 challenges
He wasn’t influenced by players crowding around him
He probably should have made the Toughcall to give Dabo a second yellow for time wasting
When Wilson got his yellow there was a good shout for a yellow to the Wycombe player for simulation
Overall rating 5

Cavan O'Doherty · Dec 12, 2020

Who cares, we got the 3 points.

clarke1234 · Dec 12, 2020

Far too many soft fouls given so the players got softer and so did the fouls

Briles · Dec 12, 2020

He was consistent. Thats all I'll say.

steve101 · Dec 12, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
With the long thread this week re quality of refs I thought it might be enlightening to analyze each game. My thoughts today were:
He wasn’t swayed by the crowd
He made a good (tough) call for Ostigard’s assist
He got both drop balls wrong
He incorrectly penalized Baka towards the end
He made a lot of mistakes on 50/50 challenges
He wasn’t influenced by players crowding around him
He probably should have made the Toughcall to give Dabo a second yellow for time wasting
When Wilson got his yellow there was a good shout for a yellow to the Wycombe player for simulation
Overall rating 5

I would agree with a 5/10. Some poor decisions and although poor by Sheaf, I thought the penalty was very soft.

Frostie · Dec 12, 2020

On replay the Baka one is a foul, he grabs & holds his arm. God knows how ref spotted it though, might have just guessed.

Skybluefaz · Dec 12, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
With the long thread this week re quality of refs I thought it might be enlightening to analyze each game. My thoughts today were:
He wasn’t swayed by the crowd
He made a good (tough) call for Ostigard’s assist
He got both drop balls wrong
He incorrectly penalized Baka towards the end
He made a lot of mistakes on 50/50 challenges
He wasn’t influenced by players crowding around him
He probably should have made the Toughcall to give Dabo a second yellow for time wasting
When Wilson got his yellow there was a good shout for a yellow to the Wycombe player for simulation
Overall rating 5

I know Dabo was milking it a bit but he wasn't kicking the ball away for no reason, the ball had gone into the crowd and the protocol is to get a different sanitized ball I think. He was playing by the rules.

Adge · Dec 12, 2020

steve101 said:
I would agree with a 5/10. Some poor decisions and although poor by Sheaf, I thought the penalty was very soft.

Hard boiled egg/soft boiled egg. It’s still a boiled egg.

pastythegreat · Dec 12, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
With the long thread this week re quality of refs I thought it might be enlightening to analyze each game. My thoughts today were:
He wasn’t swayed by the crowd
He made a good (tough) call for Ostigard’s assist
He got both drop balls wrong
He incorrectly penalized Baka towards the end
He made a lot of mistakes on 50/50 challenges
He wasn’t influenced by players crowding around him
He probably should have made the Toughcall to give Dabo a second yellow for time wasting
When Wilson got his yellow there was a good shout for a yellow to the Wycombe player for simulation
Overall rating 5

Disagree with the Wilson yellow and simulation etc.
Personally, I think its a red card offence from Wilson. If the shoe is on the other foot in that situation I'd be baying for blood and would fully expect to see a red card shown. I think Wilson was a very lucky boy in all fairness.

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steve101 · Dec 12, 2020

Adge said:
Hard boiled egg/soft boiled egg. It’s still a boiled egg.

You can say that about any dubious decision.

Skybluefaz · Dec 12, 2020

pastythegreat said:
Disagree with the Wilson yellow and simulation etc.
Personally, I think its a red card offence from Wilson. If the shoe is on the other foot in that situation I'd be baying for blood and would fully expect to see a red card shown. I think Wilson was a very lucky boy in all fairness.

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I felt it was obviously an accident and that's what stops the red. He's trying to kick the ball but Jacobsen gets there first.

skybluesam66 · Dec 12, 2020

Imho he got both drop balls right
and refs very rarely give a 2nd yellow for time wasting (can never recall it) and he keeps just inside the rules

but its all about opinions

Johhny Blue · Dec 12, 2020

Skybluefaz said:
I know Dabo was milking it a bit but he wasn't kicking the ball away for no reason, the ball had gone into the crowd and the protocol is to get a different sanitized ball I think. He was playing by the rules.

It’s a good job we weren’t losing 2-1 and he had to wait for a ball

lifeskyblue · Dec 12, 2020

Thought ref favoured them a bit with the challenges but not complaining as the last gasp offside went our way.

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Johhny Blue · Dec 12, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
Imho he got both drop balls right
and refs very rarely give a 2nd yellow for time wasting (can never recall it) and he keeps just inside the rules

but its all about opinions

That’ the exact reason I started the thread.
I thought the ref was weak today. I haven’t checked Wycombe’s forum but I can only imagine what they thought of him.

skybluesam66 · Dec 12, 2020

their disallowed goal looked very very close however

Jamesimus · Dec 12, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
That’ the exact reason I started the thread.
I thought the ref was weak today. I haven’t checked Wycombe’s forum but I can only imagine what they thought of him.

Obviously they probably hated him because he gave us freekicks when they were trying to play their brand of football (fouling). In the last quarter of the game I think the tension got to him or was tiring because he made some baffling decisions for both sides.

The penalty decision was correct though and also pretty sure the offside goal was the correct call.

CanadianCCFC · Dec 12, 2020

Cavan O'Doherty said:
Who cares, we got the 3 points.

My thoughts exactly

Johhny Blue · Dec 12, 2020

skybluesam66 said:
their disallowed goal looked very very close however

I was actually watching the player that put it in as the move was evolving and called it before the linesman. I was feeling very smug and assuming it was a correct decision I didn’t include it in my original evaluation. I’m not so sure now.
Either way it’s hard to put that one on the ref as the lino was in a great position

AFCCOVENTRY · Dec 12, 2020

Linesman gets 10/10 for ruling out their goal after a Wilson howler

TM8792 · Dec 12, 2020

That ref was absolutely dreadful - one of the worst I've ever seen. Obviously I'm buzzing about the offside flag for their goal, but it looked onside to me.

Deleted member 4439 · Dec 13, 2020

clarke1234 said:
Far too many soft fouls given so the players got softer and so did the fouls

The game seemed to be an endless series of free kicks.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Dec 13, 2020

Improvement on the previous ref who seemed to refuse to book the opposition cos he though yellow clashed with their kit or something.

Seemed to be influenced a bit by the crowd, especially as the game went on, but ruled out their goal which was very, very tight.

Johhny Blue · Dec 13, 2020

steve101 said:
I would agree with a 5/10. Some poor decisions and although poor by Sheaf, I thought the penalty was very soft.

My rating was out of 100

Sick Boy · Dec 14, 2020

I thought he got swayed a little by the crowd as the game progressed.

stevefloyd · Dec 14, 2020

Is it really fair though for a player to be booked 5 times then have a 1 match suspension especially when the refs are handing cards out like confetti?

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee · Dec 14, 2020

stevefloyd said:
Is it really fair though for a player to be booked 5 times then have a 1 match suspension especially when the refs are handing cards out like confetti?

Yes, just because it is currently our players at risk, it doesn't all of a sudden make it unfair. Not sure if referees are handing yellow cards out like confetti. Hamer could have had plenty more already. Players push the boundaries and get booked. A player getting booked every three games should serve a punishment. I hope all three players avoid any suspension, but if they don't it's not the rules/laws to blame, it's our own indiscipline

Mcbean · Dec 14, 2020

I had a look on the Wycombe forum and they commented on the number of free kicks we got - to be they were pragmatic about the offside as much as they said it was a soft penalty- nice to see a forum without some one sided hate posts for a team that outplayed them

Johhny Blue · Dec 14, 2020

stevefloyd said:
Is it really fair though for a player to be booked 5 times then have a 1 match suspension especially when the refs are handing cards out like confetti?

Isn’t it a two game suspension?

Sick Boy · Dec 14, 2020

Mcbean said:
I had a look on the Wycombe forum and they commented on the number of free kicks we got - to be they were pragmatic about the offside as much as they said it was a soft penalty- nice to see a forum without some one sided hate posts for a team that outplayed them

I wouldn’t say we outplayed them, we just got lucky.

Mcbean · Dec 14, 2020

I don’t know - we had hit the post , penalty was dubious - they had a good patch in the second half ? And offside for me

stevefloyd · Dec 14, 2020

Johhny Blue said:
Isn’t it a two game suspension?

This is what I thought I heard somewhere but done a google search and it said a 1 match ban.

When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban. However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received

Johhny Blue · Dec 14, 2020

stevefloyd said:
This is what I thought I heard somewhere but done a google search and it said a 1 match ban.

When a player received five yellow cards they would miss the next match, in whichever competition that may be. Reaching 10 yellow cards would see the player miss the next two games. And 15 would bring a three-game ban. However, from this season yellow cards will only count in the competition they are received

Thanks for clarifying. I know Stoke have two on 4 yellows and I was going to keep an eye on them. Doesn’t matter now.

Adge · Dec 16, 2020

Not too bad on the whole-seen better, seen worse. Can see why he gave the card to Hamer.

skyblueeyesrevisited · Dec 16, 2020

Adge said:
Not too bad on the whole-seen better, seen worse. Can see why he gave the card to Hamer.

Really??????

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