I think the top level salaries and grassroots match fees are ok and don’t stop people from getting involved
It’s a hugely competitive field to attract young people into the profession to maximise the numbers at grassroots so the experts can rise to the top from an ever increasing pool rather than an ever decreasing pool
so what can investment provide and what is the problem?
The problem for me is more people give up than take up officiating annually, reduces the pool top officials come from leading to inconsistent performances
There’s probably something more here about why people give up? Some get bored, some only wanted to earn a bit of money outside of education / university, intimidation or abuse. Are there more?
Also is it true that our top refs are inconsistent evidentially?
Its absolutely true that media and top managers are putting greater emphasis on how decisions affect their professional lives
The second statement doesn’t make the first statement true
The only thing fa and those involved in football can do anything about is abuse in terms of officials staying in the game? That’s what I think, what do others?
If I’m correct in my assumptions money isn’t the issue it’s top level behaviour and how this is dealt with and how this filters down to lower levels of the game and probably ensuring that expectations are high and amy stepping out of them is dealt with consistently and clearly
Most managers at the top level have families, manage relationships and behave appropriately in all areas of their lives. When it comes to football some managers and players do not and behave like spoilt children.(haaland’s reaction to advantage)
At the top level (apart from in Turkey!!!) you’d never see physical assaults but we all know that there is an escalation process from mild disagreement through to beating the hell out of someone
I’m certain behaviour at the top level impacts the abuse grassroots ref receive.
I’m also certain that transactional analysis is real and actions and behaviours of refs draws or repels behaviour from those in the game
So use of sin bin, yc, rc, bans, communicating and explaining etc etc
As a dad of a 15-16 year old a majority of coaches and players from u12 up to adult football have been brilliant
What lets down grassroots football is a minority of those adults involved (parents and coaches) lose their mind when it comes to football.
So solution to the problem is nuanced and multi faceted
Better initial training for new refs
Mentors and sponsors for all u18 refs
Promotion pathways to encourage and raise expectations
Ongoing mandatory development not just for some but for all
Respect agenda meaning something in youth football
Parents acting like adults
Coaches acting like adults
Adults acting like adults
Transparency of decision making in private not public
Full strategy involving all parts of our game to identify problem/s, brainstorm solutions and take the game forward together.
I keep seeing football can’t happen without officials but officials don’t have a role without football so it cuts both ways. We don’t want kids and adults being assaulted and verbally intimidated but also we don’t want games ruined with crazy changes to the game without discussion or wrong decisions not being identified and reduced and learned from
Gosh I’m boring
Missed out the harshest of sanctions for criminal actionsAcross society it’s these people that ruin it. Can you not have harsh sanctions for it?
Missed out the harshest of sanctions for criminal actions
About time some of it filtered more into refereeing then, if so much rides on their decision making.
Ordinarily would agree, but at the higher levels clubs are billion or hundred million pound businesses and the outcome of games can be worth millions also. So it does make sense to funnel more in to support those having to arbiter the games.The fallacy here is that refs are useless.
That's propagated by the endless focus on every contentious decision by men-children who've generally never done the job at any level and are analysing from the comfort of an armchair with endless slow motion.
If you choose to tie your living or sense of self worth to a game of inches, deflections, and subjective decisions, where blatant cheating becomes acceptable 'gamesmanship', then crying when *sometimes* it doesn't go your way because one bloke made an honest mistake, seems like poor form to me.
Hopefully a long jail term for the scrote, and hos team relegated. Ridiculous to penalise all football though."I slapped him and it wasn't that serious"
Quote from the Ankaragucu president before he eventually resigned. Meanwhile, it's been confirmed the ref has a fractured eye socket.
Thought he let a lot go that shouldn’t have, but would then also award fouls that weren’t. A 5/10 performance
On that note the Southampton commentators were nauseating. Astounding arroganceDid seem to give them a freekick just because they asked for one a couple of times.
PL or ex PL players really are whiny bitches.
The COH pen?
Not seen it back, but in real time (and the heat of the game!) it seemed pretty stonewall?
If so, linesmen has to take a lot of slack he’d have had a good view. But as always, they are generally pointless.
for some reason didn’t let MvE on for about five minutes.
Thought he was good. Easyish game to referee (if there is such a thing), 2 teams who wanted to play & not too much contentious to deal with.
That's the law. If a player needs treatment they have to leave the field for a minimum of 30 seconds.
Yes it looked a bad challenge but would like to see it again.I've been trying to find a replay of it, but I though Smallbone went in two footed on Tatsu and he didn't even give a foul?
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At least MVE got a bit of revenge for him.I've been trying to find a replay of it, but I though Smallbone went in two footed on Tatsu and he didn't even give a foul?
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The COH pen?
Not seen it back, but in real time (and the heat of the game!) it seemed pretty stonewall?
If so, linesmen has to take a lot of slack he’d have had a good view. But as always, they are generally pointless.
30 secs it’s the law for a treated playerWhat do we think today? Thought he was OK bar a few things, should have sent their No 2 off for a second yellow at least once, had a habit of turning his back on play and missed some blatant fouls as a result, and for some reason didn’t let MvE on for about five minutes.
It didThat law didn’t apply to their players it seems.
Pleased mve wasn’t hurtDid ok. He let go a lot of silly 'dark arts'. Don't think Southampton took a throw or free kick from the correct place once all night.
We did a bit of time wasting and he didn't penalise us.
Penalty call was wrong but he'll never give it if O'Hare doesn't throw himself to the floor. In real time, he's probably thought he slipped.
Best referee I’ve seen us have this seasonReferee from the Brum games has been promoted to the prem for boxing day. Not surprising. Very good performance last week done well to progress so quickly
Loved how he left injured players to get upBest referee I’ve seen us have this season
Anyone spot this (no checking the comments!)
Handball on the layoff?
Now checking the comments.
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