Reliable v mistake ridden (2 Viewers)

Irish Sky Blue said:

I'd say Richard Shaw was in the very reliable category.

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Agree not sure why there is so much venom for shaw

To add to the list and trying not to repeat the obvious lot.... Gary mac, breen and Steve froggatt were reliable.

You can see by the lists that generally keepers and defenders being classed as non reliable as they will always be remembered for mistakes..

Reliable: Roland Nilsson: you knew you were going to have an at worst 7/10 performance from him every match.

Mistake ridden: Steve Ogrizovic: need only look at Tottenham's FA Cup Final goals and the Sutton United goals to see where his weaknesses are

Interesting debate re: Richard Shaw. A great servant to the club but I'm definitely putting him in the unreliable category. At 5ft 9 he wouldn't have made it as a centre back in the current game - constantly pushing in the back and climbing on the shoulders of strikers and as such always had a silly foul in him. He was lucky to have peaked before refereeing got stupidly strict.

Cov kid 55 said:

Am I wrong in thinking that it took Dion a couple of years to get going? And in that time he was not that reliable in front of goal - lacked confidence? Then scored that great goal at Tottenham to keep us in the premier, and went from strength to strength. Bellamy missed so many chances in the season he was here, but was just coming back from a serious injury when we signed him.

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It was Willo who scored at Tottenham to keep us up with that volley I think.

Alex Evtushok
Jim McInally

A pair of disasters

Seamus1 said:

Reliable: Roland Nilsson: you knew you were going to have an at worst 7/10 performance from him every match.

Mistake ridden: Steve Ogrizovic: need only look at Tottenham's FA Cup Final goals and the Sutton United goals to see where his weaknesses are

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Brave on Oggy the we love Oggy the legend brigade will be after you:facepalm:

I agree though but the keepers ones stand out more than most

Reliable (very few in my short City career compared with others):

Keiren Westwood
Scott Dann
Jack Cork
Joe Murphy (to a lesser extent)
Ben Turner (in the later days)

Unreliable (the list could go on forever):

Leon Barnett
Reece Brown
Elliott Ward
Ben Turner (in the early days)
Aaron Phillips
Andy Webster

Cant believe Robbie Keane has only has one mention in the reliable category. I would also put Dublin, Killer, Peake, Borrows and Tommy Hutch in there.
Unreliable, Raddy Avromic, Kevin Drinkell and Paul Culpin

Reliable
Brian Borrows - Fantastic cultured full back. Good going forward, and steady defensively. Amazed we held on to him for so long. Travesty he missed the '87 cup final
David Speedie - Always could create something, or score a goal
Dion Dublin - So good in the air. Great target man, but could play too. Scored tons of goals, and was an asset defending set pieces. I remember the pain I felt driving back from losing 1-0 at home to Arsenal the match after he left, only to switch on the radio to hear he'd scored a hat trick on his Villa debut.

Unreliable
Yes....so many....
Richard Shaw - Yes he was a loyal servant, but he was never Premiership quality, and had Strachan bothered to buy decent defenders we may of never gone down in 2001. A backline of Paul Williams, Marc Edworthy, Marcus Hall & Richard Shaw was never going to keep us up. Only Gary Breen was any good. The amount of times Shaw got beaten in the air for a goal was embarrassing.
Stephen Hughes - At least the other part of the axis of evil (Michael Doyle) tried. Hughes wandered around occasionally playing a sideways pass. Uninterested after he got his contract. Utter crap.
Leon Best - 75% of the time he couldn't be arsed, and I've never seen a more ineffective frontman. Made all the more frustrating, that when he was 'on it' he was great, but rarely saw it.

fernandopartridge said:

Reliably shite.

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We will have to agree to disagree!