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blueflint

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what will it take before RFC and a few others realise the true situation and dire circumstances
that our club face
 

Kingokings204

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I'm sorry but not going to games is the only weapon we have. To hit them in the pocket and the only language they know and that's money.

Never thought I would say it but nopm is the only option we have. If we all did it then we have a chance which is more than we have now.
 

Grendel

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The op has previously stated a desire to liquidate the club.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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That would be the end of the club. Condemned to the 9th tier and homeless. Get real.
You didn't answer the question. It would not be the end it would be a rebirth with a clean slate. We are not a club at the moment we are a counter balance to profits made in other areas to save these mercenaries tax on their profits. You continually bring posters to task on their comments but never justify your position. Are you suggesting keeping the current status quo is preferable to starting again?
 

Grendel

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You didn't answer the question. It would not be the end it would be a rebirth with a clean slate. We are not a club at the moment we are a counter balance to profits made in other areas to save these mercenaries tax on their profits. You continually bring posters to task on their comments but never justify your position. Are you suggesting keeping the current status quo is preferable to starting again?

Of course it's preferable.

You would have to have single digit IQ to think otherwise.
 

Samo

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This thread perfectly illustrates the dynamic on here in general; lots of 'end of the world' fanatical, reactionary bollocks with a couple of voices saying 'have a word chaps!'
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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That would be the end of the club. Condemned to the 9th tier and homeless. Get real.


A;though I understand that G, if our current lords and masters won't take their hands from around the throat of our club - we could start again. Wasps / ACL would agree for any new CCFC to play at the Ricoh, and without SISU charging £££££££ management fees, I thinkk that fans would rallly round CCFC2. I'm getting a bit long in the tooth now, and although I can't abide the thought of our club 'folding', I feel even stronger about SISU taking the p*ss outof us as supporters, and shafting the club for another unknown amount of years. Tell me they'll be gone in 5 years and I'll man up and put up with it. If it's 10, then sorry, I'd sooner start again and shaft them.
 
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A;though I understand that G, if our current lords and masters won't take their hands from around the throat of our club - we could start again. Wasps / ACL would agree for any new CCFC to play at the Ricoh, and without SISU charging £££££££ management fees, I thinkk that fans would rallly round CCFC2. I'm getting a bit long in the tooth now, and although I can't abide the thought of our club 'folding', I feel even stronger about SISU taking the p*ss outof us as supporters, and shafting the club for another unknown amount of years. Tell me they'll be gone in 5 years and I'll man up and put up with it. If it's 10, then sorry, I'd sooner start again and shaft them.

The whole "management fees" thing is a myth.

There is an awful lot to criticise these fuckers for, we don't need to make things up.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Of course it's preferable.

You would have to have single digit IQ to think otherwise.
Thanks for that, as a person that runs a multi million pound turnover business my IQ may just stretch into double figures. You have still not given your alternative suggestions of how we start again. If I alienated my customers to the same level as Sisu my business would be liquidated or sold by its share holders. What is your credible alternative.
 
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Huckerby

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Thanks for that, as a person that runs a multi million pound turnover business my IQ may just stretch into double figures. You have still not given your alternative suggestions of how we start again. If I alienated my customers to the same level as Sisu my business would be liquidated or sold by its share holders. What is your credible alternative.

Does running a multi million pound turnover mean that you have a high IQ?
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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The whole "management fees" thing is a myth.

There is an awful lot to criticise these fuckers for, we don't need to make things up.

Apologies if I'm wrong for that - thought that one/some of the Tim Fisher related companies were taking 'management fees' in the past, and had assumed still were. I'll withdraw that comment (but still don't like 'em!!)
 
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A;though I understand that G, if our current lords and masters won't take their hands from around the throat of our club - we could start again. Wasps / ACL would agree for any new CCFC to play at the Ricoh.

Any new club would be far better off playing at a smaller stadium with less costs, to give it the best chance of growing.

So any new club really should start at the Butts, and start looking for a place for its own ground sharpish.
 

DaleM

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A;though I understand that G, if our current lords and masters won't take their hands from around the throat of our club - we could start again. Wasps / ACL would agree for any new CCFC to play at the Ricoh, and without SISU charging £££££££ management fees, I thinkk that fans would rallly round CCFC2. I'm getting a bit long in the tooth now, and although I can't abide the thought of our club 'folding', I feel even stronger about SISU taking the p*ss outof us as supporters, and shafting the club for another unknown amount of years. Tell me they'll be gone in 5 years and I'll man up and put up with it. If it's 10, then sorry, I'd sooner start again and shaft them.


The fans can't even rally around CCFC 1 .( Yes I'm one of the non atendees at the mo). But to advocate liquidation and starting again ? Whoever did it would be lucky to get one man and his dog watching the level they would be playing at.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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Does running a multi million pound turnover mean that you have a high IQ?

No wish I had. Just common sense and being in the right place at the right time. Just get Pissed off with Jokers that continually whinge but never have a credible suggestion or alternative. If they spent their efforts thinking the situation through they may be able to contribute towards a solution.
 

hill83

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No wish I had. Just common sense and being in the right place at the right time. Just get Pissed off with Jokers that continually whinge but never have a credible suggestion or alternative. If they spent their efforts thinking the situation through they may be able to contribute towards a solution.

So if I say I don't want our club to be liquidated but I have no idea how we can improve under the current ownership that would piss you off?
Because I don't want our club to be liquidated but I have no idea how we can improve under the current ownership.

And you've not exactly given and credible suggestions yourself other than 'start again'
 
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Apologies if I'm wrong for that - thought that one/some of the Tim Fisher related companies were taking 'management fees' in the past, and had assumed still were. I'll withdraw that comment (but still don't like 'em!!)

SISU will be paid a management fee, but that will be for the funds under management, funds that include a percentage of CCFC in their portfolio. Not paid through the club.

However according to OSB's analysis of the last SBS&L Ltd accounts published (almost) one year ago (the company that owns CCFC) - interest payments have increased from 1.26m to 1.81m, this is probably for the loans made by ARVO. http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threa...-amp-Leisure-2013-accounts?highlight=Accounts
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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So if I say I don't want our club to be liquidated but I have no idea how we can improve under the current ownership that would piss you off?
Because I don't want our club to be liquidated but I have no idea how we can improve under the current ownership.

The fact you don't want the club liquidated does not piss me off. Posters that continually offer a polar view with out giving insight into why they have chosen that argument however do. Taking the opposite view is their right but doing it for the sake of it, as happens with the usual suspects, is just plain stupid. Posters should have healthy arguments and discussion but to do this their needs to be credible arguments so you can see both sides. If our owners had a credible plan for instance I could see most sensible supporters getting behind it, the fact they have none and bury their head in the sand saddling the club with further debt through litigation does them or us no favours.
 
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