Moff
Well-Known Member
Sadly I am stone cold sober. It was written in a moment of desperate clarity, with a liberal use of some Anglo Saxon language!
such a great post moff it actually made me laugh at our desperate position.
don't know you but I can imagine you with about 8 pints in you shouting and spitting that post out in a pub.
It also doesn't mean they aren't if somebody says itdoes it??Just because in someones opinion they say that there were valid reasons it doesn't mean that there were valid reasons.
Meaningful negotiations should have come first. Involvement of us supporters should have come a close second. But we always came a distinct last.
And when was the last time they put us or our club first?
It also doesn't mean they aren't if somebody says itdoes it??
Did you read what I quoted? It isn't being divisive, it's saying what is happening.
Me being divisive would be insulting people.
Plenty of council ones on here then who accept moving teams
But that clearly is not happening, so you are making up what you say is happening.
Once again, the overwhelming view on here is that the council are wrong to allow wasps to buy ACL.
divisive (dɪˈvaɪsɪv) adj1. causing or tending to cause disagreement or dissension
Doesn't mention insulting people Nick.... and my response to your post is proving out the dictionary definition isn't it??
It depends who they are valid to, moving us away to distress acl and try and get the stadium on the cheap would have been valid to sisu but not to us.when one side can argue clearly why they arn't valid reasons and the people proposing the reasons can't argue why it is valid then it's a bloody good indication.
Ah sorry so we all must agree with everything everybody else says. I get it now
Whats the best situation then? as its all a complete clusterfuck and i cant see it improving.
Owners = Shit
On the pitch = Shit
Playing Squad = Shit
Mountain Of debt = Shit
Possibility of New Owners = No Chance/Shit
Owing Own Stadium = Shit
Revenues For Club = Shit
New Stadium = No Chance/Shit
Possibility of Moving Again Out of The City Boundary's = Possible/Shit
Prospect of any bright outlook on the horizon, or success on the pitch = No chance/Shit
It depends who they are valid to, moving us away to distress acl and try and get the stadium on the cheap would have been valid to sisu but not to us.
I see a successful Wasps here at the Ricoh both on and off the pitch at the moment as the only way to sort this now becoming horrendous sisu situation out. Wasps doing well and Sky Blues the opposite will not be accepted. I wonder if the Wasp ceo will have a chat to Ms. Sepalla, alone, and give alternative options to those Fisher and Waggott are pursuing, which clearly are not working.
I responded to that point earlier, a reason that is for the benefit of sisu but to the detriment of ccfc is not a valid reason because the directors of ccfc have the legal responsibility to act to the benefit of ccfc.
So yes I'm sure sisu did have reasons that they at least felt were valid for us moving to northampton, but this whole conversation came from me saying that sisu said we were moved away for the survival of the football club and there were no valid reasons for doing so and I'm convinced that is the case with respect to ccfc there were no valid reasons for moving to northampton.
RB - A couple of points on the highlighted sections:
* Wasps doing well/Sky Blues not so, won't be accepted - By who...the fans? If so, what difference will that make? The CEO of Wasps shouldn't care if we don't do well. If we bomb down to Conference North (or South...which one would be in?!) he won't care. He's admitted as much that they can survive without us at the Ricoh.
* CEO speaking to JS - Again, why? As per the above, I don't reckon he gives two hoots about us staying or not. I think everything that is being said in public at the moment is because it's what people want to hear. If I was the stadium owner, the additional revenue would be nice but I'd want full control over my own facility and not have to factor in annoying tennants...which is what we could quite rightly be termed.
WM
They are now in the business of attracting tenants. They will be financially better off with ccfc there, ccfc will be better off there if comparing to funding a new stadium. I guess that's why the club are already wanting to extend the rental agreement.
If you were in charge you'd have the stadium to yourself, but not enough money coming in, you won't last long.
But they've said they'd be fine without us?
But they've said they'd be fine without us?
If they were gifted it without the debt it could be a win win situation.
Perhaps administration is required again unfortunately to get rid of Sisu and the debt.
Sisu have no leverage now, other than they may have their arse in their hands.
Can I ask seriously why a team (Wasps) that nearly went out of business, and that have only stayed in business due to the money of their owners, who have taken on huge expense to purchase the Ricoh, would even be remotely interested in a debt ridden, loss making football club?
They might be interested in a debt ridden, break even football club provided a substantial portion of the debt is written off or only repayable on reaching the Premiership.
Nick Eastwood on BBC radio 5live. Saturday 1.30.
Interviewed via telephone.
Asked ,why did you have to move from Adams Park?
His reply ... "Ground Sharing for any Prem Rugby club is not an option"
Because a Ricoh with a football club going the right way up the leagues and not down will bring in extra support and therefore extra income to his employer.RB - A couple of points on the highlighted sections:
* Wasps doing well/Sky Blues not so, won't be accepted - By who...the fans? If so, what difference will that make? The CEO of Wasps shouldn't care if we don't do well. If we bomb down to Conference North (or South...which one would be in?!) he won't care. He's admitted as much that they can survive without us at the Ricoh.
* CEO speaking to JS - Again, why? As per the above, I don't reckon he gives two hoots about us staying or not. I think everything that is being said in public at the moment is because it's what people want to hear. If I was the stadium owner, the additional revenue would be nice but I'd want full control over my own facility and not have to factor in annoying tennants...which is what we could quite rightly be termed.
WM
Nick Eastwood on BBC radio 5live. Saturday 1.30.
Interviewed via telephone.
Asked ,why did you have to move from Adams Park?
His reply ... "Ground Sharing for any Prem Rugby club is not an option"
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I'm getting very confused with all this.
One minute all the positive things he says are just spiel and not to be believed, the next minute, when he says anything slightly negative we need to embrace that all as true?
:laugh: :facepalm::facepalm::laugh: :claping hands: ointlaugh::laugh:
We should use the Fisherism rationale prevalent on this site. If it suits us then it's the truth, if it doesn't then it's a lie. Vice versa too, of course.
I'm getting very confused with all this.
One minute all the positive things he says are just spiel and not to be believed, the next minute, when he says anything slightly negative we need to embrace that all as true?
:laugh: :facepalm::facepalm::laugh: :claping hands: ointlaugh::laugh:
No, I believe he meant in wasps current tenant, little/no access to revenue model that they have at Wycombe which is consistent with the other comments about needing to move or bust.
Put the shoe on our foot, and Eastwood is saying pretty much was Fisher is. Ground sharing/tenant little/no access to revenue is unsustainable.
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It depends who they are valid to, moving us away to distress acl and try and get the stadium on the cheap would have been valid to sisu but not to us.
Well they did have a valid reason like you said it just didn't work as they thought?If their plan to distress ACL had worked and they got the Ricoh cheaply I would have seen it as a valid reason.
They lost millions and made the vast majority of their paying customers dislike them (being polite here), couldn't have had things go any worse in the JR and the Ricoh has been taken over by a rugger club with nothing to do with Coventry.
This tells me that they didn't have a valid reason.
No reason is doing it for shits and giggles.
Well they did have a valid reason like you said it just didn't work as they thought?
No reason is doing it for shits and giggles.
Should have got lucas to announce, would have been jizz and groans.Well Fisher got giggles.....and loud laughter when he told us how many of us would turn up in Northampton
Should have got lucas to announce, would have been jizz and groans.
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