Seriously though... what makes you think a change of manager will keep us up?
I think from what I have seen we should stay up and if we do not its highly unlikely we will recover. To blindly follow him next season if relegated is naïve.
We have a lot of players who have been signed who are fit and nowhere near the level required.
The loyalty thing is stupid. If we were in the top 6 and he was being targeted by a Premier club would he stay? No of course not - there is no loyalty and we need to stay up whatever it takes.
Yes we do have players who are not up to this level but thats what happens when you go up, you can't replace the whole squad. You have to try to bring in enough to do the job, stay up and then build again.
It's not about loyalty for me, certainly not blind loyalty. It's about fairness and for me, he has earned a crack at this.
I hear what you say about 'needing' to stay up but there are no guarantees whoever you put in charge.
I say let him get on with it and try to be realistic with our expectations.
Well when you only put pennies in the kitty that's what you get rotting fruit.The issue has been that some of the signings after promotion are now just rotting on the bench and aren't first choice anyway when fit.
I think from what I have seen we should stay up and if we do not its highly unlikely we will recover. To blindly follow him next season if relegated is naïve.
We have a lot of players who have been signed who are fit and nowhere near the level required.
The loyalty thing is stupid. If we were in the top 6 and he was being targeted by a Premier club would he stay? No of course not - there is no loyalty and we need to stay up whatever it takes.
The issue has been that some of the signings after promotion are now just rotting on the bench and aren't first choice anyway when fit.
Who? Dacosta?
Well said. Of the 10 summer signings or whatever it was, only Hamer and Ostergard have been any good. Walker’s been ok as has Giles. Sheaf needs to be better. I don’t consider McCallum as a new recruit. Will we ever see Hillsner play or DaCosta make a meaningful contribution? This level is clearly too high for those who came up with us (Baka, Shipley, possibly Allen etc.).The issue has been that some of the signings after promotion are now just rotting on the bench and aren't first choice anyway when fit.
Obviously had no money to get another Stricker kept him in desperation.Hilsner as well.
Yeah they have had injury issues but they arent going to get that match fit sat on the bench.
Also have to question contracts, why sign Bakayoko again? He clearly doesn't rate him.
Obviously had no money to get another Stricker kept him in desperation.
Hilsner as well.
Yeah they have had injury issues but they arent going to get that match fit sat on the bench.
Also have to question contracts, why sign Bakayoko again? He clearly doesn't rate him.
Hilsner as well.
Yeah they have had injury issues but they arent going to get that match fit sat on the bench.
Also have to question contracts, why sign Bakayoko again? He clearly doesn't rate him.
Baka has been done to death but clearly we needed a third striker and didn’t have much budget.
Dacosta has been unlucky being injured the exact same time as Dabo, but was clearly brought in for back up.
Hilßner is looking like a dud but again fitness issues and you can’t win them all. I think our transfer strategy the last three years has been the best I’ve ever seen TBH.
With using analytics there will always be the odd signing that doesn't work out, but so far it's been far more successful than not.
We had our chance and blew itDig up Brian Clough! He'll see us promoted!
Forest picked up a point away against Stoke who most on here fancy to go up
It says “most” not “Clint”can you link me any post where someone says they think Stoke will go up?
It says “most” not “Clint”
100% agree with every word.Who have we signed who is fit and nowhere near the level?
Hamer, Østigård, McCallum, Giles, Sheaf, Dacosta - Fit and at or around the level
Walker, Hilßner - not fit, ones looked at the level when he’s played.
Nothing to do with loyalty and everything to do with proven success. Good for you that you want to go back to an endless line of journeyman managers though.
I think from what I have seen we should stay up and if we do not its highly unlikely we will recover. To blindly follow him next season if relegated is naïve.
We have a lot of players who have been signed who are fit and nowhere near the level required.
The loyalty thing is stupid. If we were in the top 6 and he was being targeted by a Premier club would he stay? No of course not - there is no loyalty and we need to stay up whatever it takes.
Best place to look would be the Stoke forumcan you link me any post where someone says they think Stoke will go up?
Jesus Christ. Shaking my head.
You absolute fucking Moron. This is truly one of your more moronic posts even by your exceptional standards.
In your alternative universe you seem to believe that all managers have a 100% perfect record in the the transfer market. Even with millions to spend that is absolutely untrue - just look at Fergie as an example of how managers get some transfers wrong.
For once - give Robins a break. His record in the transfer market has been exceptional since he returned - not every transfer is going to pay off. Your cluelessness about football is just constantly mind blowing.
I can only assume that you could not have been serious in posting this complete nonsense? Jesus.
It doesn't hurt to ask questions, I think MR has been great for us in league 1 and 2, but is the championship a league too far?
This season.No, he’s a good fit for what we are, a club happy to just survive in the division.
I think from what I have seen we should stay up and if we do not its highly unlikely we will recover. To blindly follow him next season if relegated is naïve.
We have a lot of players who have been signed who are fit and nowhere near the level required.
The loyalty thing is stupid. If we were in the top 6 and he was being targeted by a Premier club would he stay? No of course not - there is no loyalty and we need to stay up whatever it takes.
You really need to go and have a lie down
He is right though, you are a total moron.
I think from what I have seen we should stay up and if we do not its highly unlikely we will recover. To blindly follow him next season if relegated is naïve.
We have a lot of players who have been signed who are fit and nowhere near the level required.
The loyalty thing is stupid. If we were in the top 6 and he was being targeted by a Premier club would he stay? No of course not - there is no loyalty and we need to stay up whatever it takes.
This isn’t you going back to thinly veiled calls for a sacking now is it?
No I’m fairly consistent in my opinion
I see, it’s just you’re going back to the arguments you made before the unbeaten run. Not quite back to wanting us to swap managers with Portsmouth at least.
I didn’t say I wanted to swap managers
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