SlowerThanPlatt
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Skybluebeliever said Robins had identified one he wanted but didn’t happen for whatever reason…
Out of interest, who would you have brought in, that was available, within budget and would not have unsettled the squad - genuine question without any malice intended here.
Easy to say - let's get an attacking mf in.
Much harder to do.
Yeah - heard that - but easy to think straight away that he "wasn't allowed".Skybluebeliever said Robins had identified one he wanted but didn’t happen for whatever reason…
Yeah - heard that - but easy to think straight away that he "wasn't allowed".
Could easily have just not been available or became not available.
Cameron ArcherOut of interest, who would you have brought in, that was available, within budget and would not have unsettled the squad - genuine question without any malice intended here.
Easy to say - let's get an attacking mf in.
Much harder to do.
Isn't he an out and out forward?Cameron Archer
Baffling how he said he wanted to hold on until we could make changes and go for it.
What does he mean? Waghorn?
And they made a change in the first half taking a striker off because he wasn't closing down. Brave and seemed to workCardiff used their kids we don't.
Go on then, who would you want to replace him?
Pep...see how good he is with a restricted budgetEric Black
Yes very trueWe don't play a high intensity game any more. We dropped that tactic a while ago and now are a possession side with no cutting edge.
Cardiff used their kids we don't.
Which kids?
We don't use Tavares, we do use Eccles when fit.
Who else?
Bidwell is starting ahead of Maatsen at LWB. He got dropped to the bench after scoring the winner in the last game (playing out of position) and was brought on for 15 minutes in yet another different position. Shambolic decisions.
Robins himself said the energy levels weren’t there tbf
Maatsen isn't an under 23 player though.
Hes very part of the first team squad.
Why would you equate the last 19 games over a season? Fact is, win our game/games in hand we would be 3pts off top 6. Yet you claim we're a relegation team. Bizarre.If you equate the last 19 games over a season we would be hovering on around 50 points - we have no ability to improve the squad unless we sell the best players we have
Why would you equate the last 19 games over a season? Fact is, win our game/games in hand we would be 3pts off top 6. Yet you claim we're a relegation team. Bizarre.
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He’s 19 and lost his place in the side to a 28 old who’s been poor. If being played out of position, getting dropped after scoring the winner or getting sent on for 15 minutes after we’ve gone goal behind is “very much part of the first team squad“ then god help us.
He’s 19 and lost his place in the side to a 28 old who’s been poor. If being played out of position, getting dropped after scoring the winner or getting sent on for 15 minutes after we’ve gone goal behind is “very much part of the first team squad“ then god help us.
he clearly doesn’t think he’s good enough
How do you know unless he's given a chance?
But manager's do also have little quirks and favourites that they respond to. Just because they've got coaching badges doesn't mean they're immune to making mistakes. Mourinho failed to play Lukaku, De Bruyne AND Salah at Chelsea because of his opinion of what he thought they offered. Looks very silly now. Obviously I'm not comparing our players to that, just using it as an example of the fact that managers can make a wrong call about someone.I think the fact he isn't getting any game time despite us being at the bare bones up front is pretty telling.
Robins will see Tavares day in day out in training so if he's not being brought on even in the latter end of games that suggests he's simply on the bench to make up the numbers and isn't good enough.
How do you know unless he's given a chance?
Is Robins obliged to give every player he doesn’t think is good enough a chance for your benefit?
But manager's do also have little quirks and favourites that they respond to. Just because they've got coaching badges doesn't mean they're immune to making mistakes. Mourinho failed to play Lukaku, De Bruyne AND Salah at Chelsea because of his opinion of what he thought they offered. Looks very silly now. Obviously I'm not comparing our players to that, just using it as an example of the fact that managers can make a wrong call about someone.
Look back to Pressley, and his decision to play Wilson. I think all of us questioned that, given Wilson's lack of experience and he'd hardly pulled up trees on loan. But he got thrown in and never looked back. That could very easily have gone the other way. Bayliss was also brought in way before the manager wanted to because of necessity and again took his chance better than we could have hoped. Meanwhile others with great fanfare, like Giddings, Thomas, Thornton and Ponticelli, have, for various reasons, been unsuccessful. But would it be better if we were here, years later, saying 'imagine what might've been had we given so-and-so a chance"?
Aaron Phillips, Billy Daniels, Jack Finch.Look back to Pressley, and his decision to play Wilson. I think all of us questioned that, given Wilson's lack of experience and he'd hardly pulled up trees on loan. But he got thrown in and never looked back. That could very easily have gone the other way.
The issue with Tavares as well is that reports suggest that whilst he's scoring goals he's not a stand out player in the U23's. Equally, there's the issue of him still being too slight which he needs to work on. Ignoring all this on the basis of he might be the next Wilson just doesn't make a great deal of sense. You're making an exception the rule.
Better start/poorer finish. Mix it up a bit with last season and we are up there in the top 6. But we will always have a lower budget won’t we. Better get SISU to buy wasps. More revenue and the option of dissolving their company…This would be my conversation with MR
how can he not be a stand out player for the U23, when he is scoring for fun
But how did we find out those players weren't up to it? By giving them a chance. Yes, it was a lower level but the reason we can say they weren't up to it was because we gave them the opportunity to prove themselves.Aaron Phillips, Billy Daniels, Jack Finch.
Also players given a chance by Pressley. But they turned out to be shit (tbf I liked Phillips! Surprised he didn't make more of a league career than he did, but that's for another day).
It's nonsensical to look at what happened to Wilson as an example, because there are countless other examples of players who never made it. Adam Walker looked every bit a future star in the youth team... but wasn't.
And sure, managers get it wrong from time to time, but more often than not somebody isn't playing at all because they're not at the level required.
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