Tbf wasps are shit heads and i don't think people like Italia are even worthy of debate with.
But i don't think they have contributed as much to this as Sisu, nearly all the issues were present before wasps were here. Wasps just made it worse.
Wasps are just the opputunists who go around looting everything after the initial destruction.
CCFC have been mugged and battered by SISU, wasps then came along and looted CCFC pockets whilst it was still on its knees.
Wasps said 100% or nothing. If we had bid 10mill it would still have been turned down.Bid Tabled for Ricoh from CCFC
So CCFC bid more than wasps for the second 50% share. Fair enough it was years too late but just shows that the council have screwed us over.
Wasps said 100% or nothing. If we had bid 10mill it would still have been turned down.
It certainly made me look at a so called charity in a different light.
The Charity in question is in fact a "Childrens Charity" and as further evidence of Sisu's actions following one of the court hearings the AH Charity claimed £30,000 pounds in costs with Sisu making a counter-sue for hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Regards.
I see we're back to giving a fuck about a children's charity again...
The same 'children's charity that got conned out of lots of money by Wasps according to the 'supposed' value of the children's charities stake in ACL when the club were interested in buying previously.
Both dispicable but a lot of the issues were still here pre wasps.So Wasps looting us while on our knees is not comparable to being mugged and battered by SISU? Having no home in Coventry wasn't an issue before, a dispute yes, not an issue though. That occurred when Wasps took on a 250 year lease.
I certainly don't have that attitude about any charity ,but you do realise that they are run as a business now.I see we're back to giving a fuck about a children's charity again...
The same 'children's charity that got conned out of lots of money by Wasps according to the 'supposed' value of the children's charities stake in ACL when the club were interested in buying previously.
I certainly don't have that attitude about any charity ,but you do realise that they are run as a business now.
Fact is that they were offered more and turned it down, which in my eyes makes no sense whatsoever in regards to a charity.
Unfortunately unlike you they get paid to make decisions on how it affects the city as a whole. Not how it affects Grendel and his hobby.
italia with the religious references, still, he is the patron saint of hypocrisy and car parking.The 'Hair Shirt' is out again ?
Luckily only about 6 like wearing it so just be patient and you will all get a turn.
italia with the religious references, still, he is the patron saint of hypocrisy and car parking.
WTF?? everything on this thread has been addressed many times over..
SISU put us in the shit long before wasps turned up when will this point ever sink in
A judas who jumped ship when a better offer came along.
The funny thing is he was a huge sisu fan previously. "Well done sisu" was often scribed by Italia.
Guess Tim had his ear then in the parking game.
And when wasps do wrong you call everyone else Sisu lovers for pointing it out?I'm backing 2 horses here. Can't loose.
Sisu were okay until the rent withdrawal and holding club hostage in Northampton. But unlike you when they do wrong I tell them.
Again you quote a correct statement but in the wrong timescale.
Interesting. How is a £30 million swimming pool investment (half of which they even admit will lose money) effecting the city as a whole?Interesting. How is a £30 million swimming pool investment (half of which they even admit will lose money) effecting the city as a whole?
I thought you were an advocate of the stadium remaining a community asset and not being loaded with debt? What changed your mind?
Did they consult the taxpayer when they purchased the private loan that was outstanding from the Yorkshire Bank? How did that benefit every taxpayer?
Perhaps you can explain why one way or another councils in the past at Wolverhampton, Hull, Swansea, Ipswich, Nottingham and Portsmouth to name but a few have offered direct financial assistance to the football clubs at taxpayer expense? Do you disagree with that as a stance?
The Charity in question is in fact a "Childrens Charity" and as further evidence of Sisu's actions following one of the court hearings the AH Charity claimed £30,000 pounds in costs with Sisu making a counter-sue for hundreds of thousands of pounds.
Regards.
And when wasps do wrong you call everyone else Sisu lovers for pointing it out?
You will be asked to clarify that
It's a charity who has part of its remit is to help disadvantaged children.
Which is the same point, that is a very unpopular point with those who supported putting financial pressure on a business half owned by such a charity.
The 'Hair Shirt' is out again ?
Luckily only about 6 like wearing it so just be patient and you will all get a turn.
Can't see why they need this pool or why they can't just build it on site from new and allow CCFC to buy into the existing facility.Interesting. How is a £30 million swimming pool investment (half of which they even admit will lose money) effecting the city as a whole?
They can even build brand a new state of the art office building which nobody wants , and still seem to be bullet proof to the taxpayer.
No I call people who defend Sisu actions, 'Sisu lovers'
I can't see what option Wasps 'really' had so I don't blame them one bit for the position we find ourselves in.
In addition if they were not here we would be still in Northampton with still no way of affording to buy into the Ricoh.
Yes it prevents us from ever getting our hands on the Ricoh but what should CCC do with a mothballed stadium that we could not afford to buy or run.
Can't see why they need this pool or why they can't just build it on site from new and allow CCFC to buy into the existing facility.
I know TF said he is building our own complex but surely they didn't believe him.
I think TF sealed our fate by not committing to the Higgs Centre financially and previous history of moving us out when it suited him.
So why do the same people regurgitate the same old story?Fuck off with that line, and grow up. Its your go to when naughty people say things that disagree with you.
You have been the biggest supporter of SISU though, remember the extremes you went to? That trumps any other users on here. You were all out an actual SISU lover.
You keep giving the don't see what option, but when other options are pointed out you ignore them.
So why do the same people regurgitate the same old story?
It just gets a little tedious.
Grow up ? I think you can do better than that ?
I'd say PWKH did more to seal the fate with the terms he put in.
Funny people mention this pool, what about the rugby facilities included?
Like rubber rings and slides ?
So why do the same people regurgitate the same old story?
It just gets a little tedious.
Grow up ? I think you can do better than that ?
No one asks questions they just give out the same blame.And when people point out his inaccuracies, or argue their points and he hasn't got an answer, we get the 'Sisu apologists', 'you need to get over it', 'hair shirt' and other assorted clichés he gives out as he hasn't got an answer.
No I call people who defend Sisu actions, 'Sisu lovers'
I can't see what option Wasps 'really' had so I don't blame them one bit for the position we find ourselves in.
In addition if they were not here we would be still in Northampton with still no way of affording to buy into the Ricoh.
Yes it prevents us from ever getting our hands on the Ricoh but what should CCC do with a mothballed stadium that we could not afford to buy or run.
Another fallacy peddled by Italia and a few others. We would still be in Northampton if Wasps hadn't turned up.
Council chief: We need time to rebuild trust before we discuss Ricoh Arena ownership
No one asks questions they just give out the same blame.
I'm trying to get people to move on and do something positive to get rid of Sisu.
CCC this, Wasps that, Higgs this, PWKH did this. FFS pull together and get rid of Sisu. Oh yes missed "You liked Sisu" off the list.
No I call people who defend Sisu actions, 'Sisu lovers'
I can't see what option Wasps 'really' had so I don't blame them one bit for the position we find ourselves in.
In addition if they were not here we would be still in Northampton with still no way of affording to buy into the Ricoh.
Yes it prevents us from ever getting our hands on the Ricoh but what should CCC do with a mothballed stadium that we could not afford to buy or run.
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