Nick
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Is this your weekly posting rampage?
Read the thread, the rumours on here were quite clearly trying to get people worked up. Hence "get your phones ready", "get ready to pick your sides" etc.
That's not the same as intentionally leaking it to get people angry.
They probably want to no who is bidding to see if they can fleece them say a mega rich Arab they would hold them to ransom. No matter what why would you keep hold of ccfc they definitely have an alternative motive in the ownership of our club.Not sure about 'lost'.
I would love to know what the agreement is for him to be finally financially rewarded.
He does seem quite negative towards any bids.
I really hope that his own financial reward isn't coming into any of this decision making.
We have missed out in a take over before because it didn't suit the chairman personally. Despite him saying it was a good enough offer for SISU. Then orange Ken advised SISU not to accept and the bid got leaked out scuppering the deal.
Myfrrling with this one. Is that you would not bid for the club unless you knew you could do business with Wasps first. So I guess that a deal with Wasps was agreed in principle to stay at the Ricoh. Not SISU.
Then the bid to SISU was unfortunately rejected.
I understand why SISU need to see proof of cash. I don't understand why they need to know who is actually bidding.
When they bid Joy/RR led the bid but the cash was from other investors whom have never been named.
They probably want to no who is bidding to see if they can fleece them say a mega rich Arab they would hold them to ransom. No matter what why would you keep hold of ccfc they definitely have an alternative motive in the ownership of our club.
Obviously more than 500 grand otherwise that wouldn't be the opening bid. No-one is going to take the first offer.
CCFC is still a name/ brand, as was proved with over 40000 people taking a trip down to `London.
The question is what are the preference shares or ARVO debts worth to Joy and her investors. If CCFC tick over without big losses in any league, there is no desperate need to sell. So 500 grand is not a great incentive to admit your losses to the investors. You could keep plodding along at little or no further cost.
I think they need a figure to show that they got something back by holding on and reducing losses. Even if CCFC is worth nothing on paper, you have people who will want to give it a go - for their egos or to gain publicity and good will in their businesses. So there is a value to someone, no matter how it looks on paper.
My guess would be 5 million plus maybe a few hundred grand. Why? Because of human nature, not profit and loss thinking. CCFC would be a nice thing to have, especially if you could get things moving.
I've said time & time again I think it hinges on making the ARVO investment turn a profit, which means £10M because ARVO have put in about £8M so far.
However I do not think SISU will sell if they can run the club in league 2 at breakeven.
This bid/refusal scenario will continue for some time, I don't think there will be a sale this summer.
mate, I agree the initial offer seems too low but a 30 million sweetener? Fuck that! Under no circumstances should they be offered a potential payment of that magnitude.
Gary Hoffman repeatedly denied it so he never leaked it.
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Read the thread, the rumours on here were quite clearly trying to get people worked up. Hence "get your phones ready", "get ready to pick your sides" etc.
One person said that didn't he? Clearly a well orchestrated PR campaign.... :emoji_smiley:
Gary Hoffman repeatedly denied it so he never leaked it. The club were the ones who actually confirmed it and were scathing towards it.
Mcdevitt heard something but got his facts wrong. So he must know someone who knows someone involved. That's not the same as intentionally leaking it to get people angry.
That's just people not keeping their gobs shut.
Italia leaked it didn't he so who told him?
I've said time & time again I think it hinges on making the ARVO investment turn a profit, which means £10M because ARVO have put in about £8M so far.
However I do not think SISU will sell if they can run the club in league 2 at breakeven.
This bid/refusal scenario will continue for some time, I don't think there will be a sale this summer.
Italia leaked it didn't he so who told him?
Has anybody thought why any bids have been rejected with Hoffman in the equation?
What the one that was supposed to have been announced imminently about 18 months ago?Mmm. So if Italia was right on this I wonder if he's right about the JLR arena?
No interested bidders been in contact then?
I think Sisu have a personal issue with hoffman and don't want to deal with him. Although that is completely unprofessional if an offer is being made for the business.
However, I think it's fair to say Joe Elliott is involved as well and this is all very personal.
Have to get past the tit for tat for negotiations to take place.
Fisher keeps banging on about revealing the identity of the investors.
How many others then said "lets make them accept it at the walsall game".
If the massive news that a fantastic offer was rejected was to have come out in the telegraph today, the day before the walsall game then it would have stirred a fair bit up.
I don't recall how many said it, but, come on, "let's make them accept it at the Walsall game? I mean, it's not like there's been any protests at other games eh? Last home match of the season, we're relegated, you really think people needed any "whipping up" Do you think it will have any effect on Fisher anyway regarding any bid? Seriously?
Tim has officially told everyone now, so would it have been any different?
I know John , but this was the first time he gave me information .And the other guy who said his mate knows Hoffman or something, then suddenly did a U Turn and said it's because his daughter is signing for Wasps.
I think Sisu have a personal issue with hoffman and don't want to deal with him. Although that is completely unprofessional if an offer is being made for the business.
However, I think it's fair to say Joe Elliott is involved as well and this is all very personal.
Have to get past the tit for tat for negotiations to take place.
Fisher keeps banging on about revealing the identity of the investors.
Spot on mate imho, but I think there is some other reason too
What the one that was supposed to have been announced imminently about 18 months ago?
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What's that then?
Spot on mate imho, but I think there is some other reason too
Mmm. So if Italia was right on this I wonder if he's right about the JLR arena?
I thought because the offer was too low, which I would agree with, what worries me is what they think is acceptable because it's bound to be unrealistic.
What is your other reason SBK? edit: just read your post above
Is this your weekly posting rampage?
Read the thread, the rumours on here were quite clearly trying to get people worked up. Hence "get your phones ready", "get ready to pick your sides" etc.
Has anybody thought why any bids have been rejected with Hoffman in the equation? I have my theories as to why this is. Discuss, and I'll give my thoughts on it later.
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