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Sky Blue Pete · Aug 12, 2020

Sky_Blue_Daz said:
Did a 4 mile run about 8:45 this morning, sweating like a pregnant nun when I’d finished

Walked the dog and was sweating

Sky_Blue_Daz · Aug 12, 2020

I reckon it’s too hot to walk the dog I’ll go myself about 3:30 maybe stop off at the nugget on the way back

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 12, 2020

10k tonight it were right warm but fine enough. Steady pace 1hour but happy to have some miles banked.

Travs · Aug 13, 2020

On the track at Pingles this morning.

11 x 400mtrs with 90secs rest.

Still a little heavy-legged from last weekend, but managed to keep the reps consistent at 79-81 seconds, so a good session in humid conditions.

Travs · Aug 23, 2020

Raced on the fells this morning at Llangollen... 17 miles/3000ft. 12th/125

2:30:28........... had a target of 2:30 but this was scuppered when we had to do a lap of the football pitch in the final field before we crossed the line!

Although it does show that times really go out of the window when racing on the fells... it's the steepness, terrain and conditions/visibility which make the difference.... this was 5 miles longer than my last fell race, yet only took 4 minutes longer.

CrawleySkyBlue · Aug 24, 2020

Travs said:
On the track at Pingles this morning.

11 x 400mtrs with 90secs rest.

Still a little heavy-legged from last weekend, but managed to keep the reps consistent at 79-81 seconds, so a good session in humid conditions.

Good pace that. I've added a 800m rep session once a week: 6x 800m @ 3:20-3:30 mins/km pace, with a 200m walk after each rep. So fairly similar pace to your 400m efforts - it is hard work. I find that since increasing my mileage I need to eat a lot more - do you find this? It makes sense to me.

10km road PB last week - 37:12. Think I am going to attempt an unofficial Tilgate parkrun (5km) PB run at the weekend (want that sub 18min time, but not sure i'll get it due to 2 hills mid way round!)

Travs · Aug 24, 2020

CrawleySkyBlue said:
Good pace that. I've added a 800m rep session once a week: 6x 800m @ 3:20-3:30 mins/km pace, with a 200m walk after each rep. So fairly similar pace to your 400m efforts - it is hard work. I find that since increasing my mileage I need to eat a lot more - do you find this? It makes sense to me.

10km road PB last week - 37:12. Think I am going to attempt an unofficial Tilgate parkrun (5km) PB run at the weekend (want that sub 18min time, but not sure i'll get it due to 2 hills mid way round!)

That is good running on those 800 reps... i would be working hard to hit 3:30 pace.... 3:20 no chance for 8 reps!

Yes diet is a real minefield. You will certainly feel like you need more food if you have upped the miles. It's not really an issue as long as you put in enough fuel to allow you to train.... but if you're actively trying to lose weight then it's a bit of a balancing act between restricting calories and having enough fuel.

My biggest advice is that the better quality food you eat, then the amount of calories you consume isn't so vital. e.g If you're absolutely flagging after a particularly hard few days training, and you feel the need to polish off 1000 calories worth of rice, then crack on... but it's when you knock off 1000 calories of ice-cream that will hurt your performance...!

37:12, wow that's two back-to-back 18:35 5km's, that is awesome!

I've got a 3000mtr race on the track at Pingles a week on sunday. Hoping to get as close as possible to 10:30 which would be 7.5 laps of consistent 3:30/km pace.

And i believe there's also another event at Pingles later in September, i'm waiting with baited breath to see what distances are available as to whether i enter a race there too...

Sky_Blue_Daz · Aug 24, 2020

Got me 4,miles done today after a weekend of celebrations , I reckon I sweated out all the lager thankfully

larry_david · Aug 25, 2020

Did 10k on Sunday. First 10k I've ran without stopping (first time I've tried) the mental side of it is so important. I planned a completely different route so a) wasn't bored and b) avoided any mental pitstops from my past running. Made such a difference. I should really be quite proud of my progress, I play(ed) footy 3 times a week but could never run distance as shins would get me but since lockdown I've gone from needing to stop at 3k to now, admitdly only once so far, running 10k without even needing to stop. 56.01 which I looked up on Google, says that's OK.

Great_Expectations · Aug 25, 2020

Slightly disappointed in myself the last few weeks, I’ve gone from a weekly half at the weekends and a weekly distance of ~40/45miles per week, to no weekly half so far in August and a weekly average of 30/35 miles.

The main factor is increased socialising since Lockdown eased. It impacts directly as it means less time at the weekend to run (especially if hosting and all the organising that involves) and indirectly as the day after there’s no way I’m attempting a half, albeit I have been doing 4 mile hangover runs.

On the flip side, with less running at the weekends I’ve noticed an increase in my pacing on shorter runs, 5k’s right through to 8/9 milers.

I know it’s been mentioned on here before but I’m debating trying a gel/supplement while on a longer run to see what impact is has. At the minute I don’t use anything. Any recommendations?

Great_Expectations · Aug 25, 2020

larry_david said:
Did 10k on Sunday. First 10k I've ran without stopping (first time I've tried) the mental side of it is so important. I planned a completely different route so a) wasn't bored and b) avoided any mental pitstops from my past running. Made such a difference. I should really be quite proud of my progress, I play(ed) footy 3 times a week but could never run distance as shins would get me but since lockdown I've gone from needing to stop at 3k to now, admitdly only once so far, running 10k without even needing to stop. 56.01 which I looked up on Google, says that's OK.

Finding a new route is genuinely the only thing I enjoy about running! Even now I’m finding new routes/cut through/bridal paths etc.

While discovering new routes is less so now, I tend to just mix/match previous routes and give a week(s) gap between using the same paths etc. That way while it isn’t completely new or fresh, it avoids it become routine like.

I also try and combine activities with running as it gives me a chance to identify new ways to run, for example I’ve started running to the pub on a Friday night, as that’s a fairly new thing it means there’s loads of new ways I can find. I ran to meet my partner for breakfast on Friday (she drove) as it meant I could plot a new route!

Do you use an app/site to plan your runs?

Travs · Aug 25, 2020

Great_Expectations said:
I know it’s been mentioned on here before but I’m debating trying a gel/supplement while on a longer run to see what impact is has. At the minute I don’t use anything. Any recommendations?

It's purely personal preference... i personally won't use any more than water on anything up to about 4hrs, and then i'd use something like Brown Kendal Mint Cake rather than a gel... if it's getting on for over 6hrs then i'd take proper food high in calories for little weight... Pork Pie, sausage roll, etc.

Having said that, if gels are your thing, then i used to use the SIS gels and found them adequate.

I think it's much more important to make sure you're adequately fuelled and hydrated from the day before... if you neglect that then you're just papering over the cracks with a bit of water and a couple of gels.

From personal experience, i used to hammer the liquid intake on longer races and after 2-3 hrs would find myself retching as i couldn't deal with it in my stomach. Now unless it's exceedingly hot conditions i'll just sip at water. I ran a 2.5hr race last weekend and got through no more than about 350ml of water. Was very thirsty afterwards, but no noticeable effect on performance as i'd eatan and drank well in the lead-up.

Of course, the above paragraph is purely anecdotal and what works for me won't work for everyone...

We'll_live_and_die · Aug 27, 2020

So.......with my legs feeling like lead from overtraining and my furthest run being 16 miles, I’ve entered the London Marathon.

Hoping to get a 20miler in mid September and then taper down ready for the run. To be honest I don’t think I’m going to put any pressure on myself for a time and will just be aiming to finish.
I might even Jeff it and see if that helps my endurance.

Macca · Aug 31, 2020

Travs said:
It's purely personal preference... i personally won't use any more than water on anything up to about 4hrs, and then i'd use something like Brown Kendal Mint Cake rather than a gel... if it's getting on for over 6hrs then i'd take proper food high in calories for little weight... Pork Pie, sausage roll, etc.

Having said that, if gels are your thing, then i used to use the SIS gels and found them adequate.

I think it's much more important to make sure you're adequately fuelled and hydrated from the day before... if you neglect that then you're just papering over the cracks with a bit of water and a couple of gels.

From personal experience, i used to hammer the liquid intake on longer races and after 2-3 hrs would find myself retching as i couldn't deal with it in my stomach. Now unless it's exceedingly hot conditions i'll just sip at water. I ran a 2.5hr race last weekend and got through no more than about 350ml of water. Was very thirsty afterwards, but no noticeable effect on performance as i'd eatan and drank well in the lead-up.

Of course, the above paragraph is purely anecdotal and what works for me won't work for everyone...

On a 4.5 hour marathon I would mix an electrolyte sachet with water at half way.

on long distance walks just enough to get by. I walked 50 miles over 17 hours a few Sundays back and just had a little snack every 3/4 hours. I find as said before that glucose gels etc make me nauseous as hell

Sky_Blue_Daz · Aug 31, 2020

Rich said:
So.......with my legs feeling like lead from overtraining and my furthest run being 16 miles, I’ve entered the London Marathon.

Hoping to get a 20miler in mid September and then taper down ready for the run. To be honest I don’t think I’m going to put any pressure on myself for a time and will just be aiming to finish.
I might even Jeff it and see if that helps my endurance.

Good luck man

covcity4life · Sep 1, 2020

Have got my 2 mile run down to 10.26 a mile. Started off earlier this year with times in late 12s

Hope to get under a 10 min mile over next month and maybe under 9 by end of year

Travs · Sep 1, 2020

Raced in the oldest fell race in Wales yesterday, on it's 60th anniversary. 18th/118..... 30mins16secs

2 miles up to the summit of the mountain, and two miles straight back down again. A measure of the contrast of the two halves of the race... the two miles up took me 19:26, and the two miles back down took 10:50...

Macca · Sep 1, 2020

Travs said:
Raced in the oldest fell race in Wales yesterday, on it's 60th anniversary. 18th/118..... 30mins16secs

2 miles up to the summit of the mountain, and two miles straight back down again. A measure of the contrast of the two halves of the race... the two miles up took me 19:26, and the two miles back down took 10:50...

I did a fun event 4 years back called Man v Mountain. 13 miles from Caernarfon castle to Snowdonia summit took nearly 3 hours to the top given my normal half is 1 hour 50. 5 miles down the llanberris pass, legs going faster than my brain could think was sure I was going to break my neck. Then too finish us off a 200 m zig zag climb over 1km then some water obstacles and diving into an old quarry, fantastic 20 mile fun. Took nearly 6 hours

Travs · Sep 6, 2020

Raced on the track at Pingles this afternoon in the Masters (over 35's) meeting.

3000m... 10:32, which was an improvement of 16secs on last year's time, and doubly pleasing as my recent training times suggested that i'd be doing well to get under 11mins.

Four of us pulled out a big gap in the first couple of laps, but after the first km the first two stretched out, and i had dropped to 4th. Started to wind it up in the final 3 laps and pulled my way back up to 3rd, where i was to finish.

Overall very pleasing. I guess race conditions do make a big difference... having people in front to chase, and being pushed hard from behind, really gave it an edge, and must have contributed to a better than expected time.

Also gives me confidence that i can push closer to 18mins for 5km (10:32 for 3km is just over 17:30/5km pace)

Mucca Mad Boys · Sep 6, 2020

I was on annual leave this week, so I set myself a challenge to run a 5km everyday and I finished my 9 day challenge today.

Hit 2 consecutive PBs before the bank holiday Monday, and had 2 pretty slow runs throughout the week. But today, I set out to really push myself and I hit a new PB! 5km in 22:57!

I’m going to start to mix in some longer runs in the coming weeks.

fernandopartridge · Sep 7, 2020

Ran 8k tonight which is the furthest I've been for years, feeling pretty good at the minute. Planning on getting to 10k this month. Speed could be better than around 5 min per km but that'll come if I can lose the extra 2.5 stone I carry about with me.

Mucca Mad Boys · Sep 7, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
Ran 8k tonight which is the furthest I've been for years, feeling pretty good at the minute. Planning on getting to 10k this month. Speed could be better than around 5 min per km but that'll come if I can lose the extra 2.5 stone I carry about with me.

You’ll definitely get faster as you drop the weight!

I’m looking forward to testing myself mentally when the weather is shit! I certainly enjoy eating the extra calories too.

fernandopartridge · Sep 7, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
You’ll definitely get faster as you drop the weight!

I’m looking forward to testing myself mentally when the weather is shit! I certainly enjoy eating the extra calories too.

It's funny, I tend to go running more in the bad weather even though in my head I prefer summer. Tonight where I live it pissed it down all through the run.

Mucca Mad Boys · Sep 7, 2020

fernandopartridge said:
It's funny, I tend to go running more in the bad weather even though in my head I prefer summer. Tonight where I live it pissed it down all through the run.

That’s a good habit to be in man! What area do you live in?

I’m new to running. Thankfully, picking it up in spring and kicking on in the summer has meant it’s been dry and I’ve built a habit now (hopefully).

Travs · Sep 8, 2020

Parkruns should be coming back in late October....

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 8, 2020

Travs said:
Parkruns should be coming back in late October....

It depends on local land permission being granted too.

Great_Expectations · Sep 11, 2020

Had a bit of a crazy moment and signed up for the London Marathon which takes place in three weeks....

I have been doing a fair bit of running since Lockdown, but definitely not marathon training or distance running, so it’s going to be a challenge.

Im going to attempt a half tomorrow and 15/16 miles in the week if I can, and even trickier I’m going to stop drinking from tomorrow (got to have a drink watching the first game!).

My plan to get round is to ask friends/family etc to join me for a few miles each, the theory is the company will keep me going!

Random question, but I need some running socks. Any recommendations?

fernandopartridge · Sep 11, 2020

Mucca Mad Boys said:
That’s a good habit to be in man! What area do you live in?

I’m new to running. Thankfully, picking it up in spring and kicking on in the summer has meant it’s been dry and I’ve built a habit now (hopefully).

I live in Glossop which is on the edge of the peaks, hilly and wet all year round. Though tbf the proper lockdown period was dry and unseasonably warm

We'll_live_and_die · Sep 11, 2020

Great_Expectations said:
Had a bit of a crazy moment and signed up for the London Marathon which takes place in three weeks....

I have been doing a fair bit of running since Lockdown, but definitely not marathon training or distance running, so it’s going to be a challenge.

Im going to attempt a half tomorrow and 15/16 miles in the week if I can, and even trickier I’m going to stop drinking from tomorrow (got to have a drink watching the first game!).

My plan to get round is to ask friends/family etc to join me for a few miles each, the theory is the company will keep me going!

Random question, but I need some running socks. Any recommendations?

I did the same. Almost immediately after I was struck down by chronic asthma and I’m only just getting to the point I can walk for 20minutes without being completely wiped out.
I’m planning 4x6.5milers from home. If I can run at all.

bezzer · Sep 14, 2020

Running on Saturday and went over on a tree root. Broken 5th Metatarsal and ruptured ligaments. No running for a couple of months

Great_Expectations · Sep 14, 2020

Rich said:
I did the same. Almost immediately after I was struck down by chronic asthma and I’m only just getting to the point I can walk for 20minutes without being completely wiped out.
I’m planning 4x6.5milers from home. If I can run at all.

Sorry to hear that Rich, it sounds a real nightmare.

The good thing about it being virtual is that you can run it your own way, so even if those 4x6.5 milers turn into walking pace, it doesn’t really matter and you’ll still have completed the 40th London Marathon!

Great_Expectations · Sep 14, 2020

bezzer said:
Running on Saturday and went over on a tree root. Broken 5th Metatarsal and ruptured ligaments. No running for a couple of months

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Nightmare! Have to say I don’t know how I haven’t yet - I do the majority of my running off road and the amount of times I’ve slipped, tripped etc is ridiculous. Speedy recovery!

Travs · Sep 22, 2020

Raced at Pingles again last sunday in the 3000 metres on the track. A disappointing 10:55, over 20secs slower than a fortnight ago.

Although after my previous good run, i was treating this as a "free swing" and took a big gamble with the tactics. Went off hard... harder than i felt able to sustain, and just thought i'd hold it as long as possible and see what happens.

Unfortunately for all the extra effort on the first km, i didn't shave much time off, and then inevitably paid for it in the remainder of the race with a big slowdown.

Perhaps the most disappointing aspect... i'd been fully prepared to go out all-guns-blazing, and if i hit the wall and crashed spectacularly, then so be it. But my slowdown was more just a gradual wimpering out of any speed i had. It just felt like i hadn't put up much of a fight (although i'm sure it wasn't really like that... at the time i must've felt like i was at the absolute limit).

Sky_Blue_Daz · Sep 22, 2020

bezzer said:
Running on Saturday and went over on a tree root. Broken 5th Metatarsal and ruptured ligaments. No running for a couple of months

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Sorry to hear that mate hope you are feeling better soon

Sky_Blue_Daz · Sep 22, 2020

Rich said:
I did the same. Almost immediately after I was struck down by chronic asthma and I’m only just getting to the point I can walk for 20minutes without being completely wiped out.
I’m planning 4x6.5milers from home. If I can run at all.

Good luck mate

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