Sam Ricketts (2 Viewers)

oucho · Nov 16, 2016

All the best SR- thanks for your efforts especially in the first half of last season.

Edit - anyone want to guess who'l be new club captain? Willis?

Edit 2 - from the club wishing him all the best for the future, do we think he will not stick around to continue his mentoring role in a non-playing, reduced salary capacity?

skyblueelephant76 · Nov 16, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
No we should have kept the decent centre back we had in Aaron Martin rather than relying on an OAP, a kid and Jordan Willis who was injured all last season

The great Aaron Martin that has managed 7 games for Oxford this season...

Grendel · Nov 16, 2016

dongonzalos said:
Is Stokes training now?
Will be a class left sided CB once fully fit

Based on the 3 games he's played there? He's our best left back by a mile why on earth would we want him not in his best position.

oucho · Nov 16, 2016

Grendel said:
Based on the 3 games he's played there? He's our best left back by a mile why on earth would we want him not in his best position.

Because Page can do a job at LB but are sorely needing some assurance and competence at CB which Stokes can definitely provide.....

Grendel · Nov 16, 2016

oucho said:
Because Page can do a job at LB but are sorely needing some assurance and competence at CB which Stokes can definitely provide.....

Page deal ends in January and id much rather stokes there and we sign a proper centre half if needed.

Liquid Gold · Nov 16, 2016

Should never have been given another year, best of luck out of the game though

Ibby · Nov 16, 2016

Good luck to him, he much be gutted about this news.

covcity4life · Nov 16, 2016

Captain Dart said:
Ricketts still has a contract till end of season.

Even though he has retired I suppose the club still has to pay him, though there might be an insurance payout to cover the costs.

not sure.

ccfctommy said:
Was our best defender last season.

reda,turner,cargill,stephens were all better cbs

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Nov 16, 2016

Captain Dart said:
Ricketts still has a contract till end of season.

Even though he has retired I suppose the club still has to pay him, though there might be an insurance payout to cover the costs.

If the club were still paying him then they could make him play if he's fit (hes retired to stop further long term damage rather than an injury stopping him)

By resigning/retiring I imagine he won't be paid. It's possible he will continue to be paid a nominal amount for the remainder of the contract as some sort of sick pay but he won't get his full contract paid out.

oucho · Nov 16, 2016

Sad for him that he went out with the Charlton game, and his penultimate league game being Gillingham. He was awful in both and a mate of mine was amongst those who gave him some stick for approaching the away fans and applauding at the Valley. Definitely time to bow our, shame (for him and us) it wasn't on a high note.

Malaka · Nov 16, 2016

That will free up some cash, highest paid at the club

wingy · Nov 16, 2016

Just Tudgay to go now.

higgs · Nov 16, 2016

How much was he on?

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Hobo · Nov 16, 2016

Explains why Ricketts has been struggling. Good luck to him, he was a good pro and his injury is our loss.

dongonzalos · Nov 16, 2016

Grendel said:
Based on the 3 games he's played there? He's our best left back by a mile why on earth would we want him not in his best position.

oucho said:
Because Page can do a job at LB but are sorely needing some assurance and competence at CB which Stokes can definitely provide.....

Common sense really

Grendel · Nov 16, 2016

dongonzalos said:
Common sense really

Except your witness for the defence liked my my post and not yours.

oucho · Nov 16, 2016

Grendel said:
Except your witness for the defence liked my my post and not yours.

We can soon see about that!!!

Manchester_sky_blue · Nov 18, 2016

SkyBlue_Bear83 said:
If the club were still paying him then they could make him play if he's fit (hes retired to stop further long term damage rather than an injury stopping him)

By resigning/retiring I imagine he won't be paid. It's possible he will continue to be paid a nominal amount for the remainder of the contract as some sort of sick pay but he won't get his full contract paid out.

Isn't it usually the case that Club and player come to some sort of settlement on a pay off?

ccfcway · Nov 18, 2016

Malaka said:
That will free up some cash, highest paid at the club

Any ideas who was 2nd ?

Dimi_Konstantflapalot · Nov 18, 2016

Malaka said:
That will free up some cash, highest paid at the club

Not too surprised by that. I can't imagine the rest are on much more than 1-2K/week. Sordell an exception I'd imagine, seeing as he drives a Maserati into training every day!

duffer · Nov 18, 2016

oucho said:
Because Page can do a job at LB but are sorely needing some assurance and competence at CB which Stokes can definitely provide.....

In fairness there's a pretty reasonable theory that says you should always play your best players in the position that they're best in.

By moving Stokes to CB and bringing in an (arguably) weaker LB, you could actually weaken both positions rather than just the problem one at CB. I'm not saying you're wrong here, but I always think it's worth bearing in mind when shunting players around.

Dimi_Konstantflapalot · Nov 18, 2016

We've hardly seen Stokes at CB, I'd say it's a risk to expect him to be the solution especially with the injury he's had. Ease him back in at LB where he knows the position.

skybluegod · Nov 18, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
No we should have kept the decent centre back we had in Aaron Martin rather than relying on an OAP, a kid and Jordan Willis who was injured all last season

That decent centre half that doesn't get a game at oxford?

ccfchoi87 · Nov 18, 2016

skybluegod said:
That decent centre half that doesn't get a game at oxford?

Yep, he's better than Jordan Turnbull

skybluegod · Nov 18, 2016

ccfctommy said:
Was our best defender last season.

Stokes?

skybluegod · Nov 18, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Yep, he's better than Jordan Turnbull

What are you judging that off? Martin was awful the season before last and during his loan? Turnbull has been solid, and has been part of one of the 4th best defence in the league this season? And while he has made mistakes he is definitely not as bad has been made out by some.

ccfchoi87 · Nov 18, 2016

skybluegod said:
What are you judging that off? Martin was awful the season before last and during his loan? Turnbull has been solid, and has been part of one of the 4th best defence in the league this season? And while he has made mistakes he is definitely not as bad has been made out by some.

Turnbull has been solid? We'll have to agree to disagree then because I dont rate him at all

Dimi_Konstantflapalot · Nov 18, 2016

skybluegod said:
What are you judging that off? Martin was awful the season before last and during his loan? Turnbull has been solid, and has been part of one of the 4th best defence in the league this season? And while he has made mistakes he is definitely not as bad has been made out by some.

Don't think there's much between Turnbull and Martin tbh.

skybluegod · Nov 18, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Turnbull has been solid? We'll have to agree to disagree then because I dont rate him at all

In the 9/10 games I have seen him, he has been no worse than Martin ever was, and the stats don't lie. According to most Cov fans we have two poor goalkeepers, so surely the defence must be solid?

skybluegod · Nov 18, 2016

Dimi_Konstantflapalot said:
Don't think there's much between Turnbull and Martin tbh.

Would agree, think they are at similar levels, but Turnbull is only 22, so has a lot more potential to grow.

Dimi_Konstantflapalot · Nov 18, 2016

skybluegod said:
Would agree, think they are at similar levels, but Turnbull is only 22, so has a lot more potential to grow.

Think they both have similar limitations (slow, not great on the ball, not as physically dominant as they could be). Not been impressed by Turnbull this year but as you say, Martin was god awful season before last.

chiefdave · Nov 18, 2016

Manchester_sky_blue said:
Isn't it usually the case that Club and player come to some sort of settlement on a pay off?

That's for cancelling a contract isn't it. Think retiring is different, didn't Kilbane say he was retiring so the club didn't have to keep paying him when he felt he couldn't contribute?

fernandopartridge · Nov 18, 2016

ccfchoi87 said:
Yep, he's better than Jordan Turnbull

Where's the evidence?

I think some views of Martin are being obscured by a decent spell last season. He was poor for most of the rest of his time with us. We've conceded no more goals this season than we had this time last season.

ccfchoi87 · Nov 18, 2016

fernandopartridge said:
Where's the evidence?

I think some views of Martin are being obscured by a decent spell last season. He was poor for most of the rest of his time with us. We've conceded no more goals this season than we had this time last season.

It's my opinion? Many people say gerrard is better than lampard but again all stats prove otherwise.

ccfchoi87 · Nov 19, 2016

Any more people wanna argue about turnbull because he's proving my point right now

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