Sky Blue Pete
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Think there are probably 200 people who’ve received sentences like Brady and that seems about right. They don’t deserve freedom but they under our societies rules deserve fair and humane treatment
Think there are probably 200 people who’ve received sentences like Brady and that seems about right. They don’t deserve freedom but they under our societies rules deserve fair and humane treatmentSo you think certain people who commit heinous crimes are capable of re introducing into society
Who - Mr Pitchfork (clearly not) Mr Huntley (interestingly Mr Huntley was one juror away from a hung jury as they believed this evil killer) Ms Domaghue Mr Moore? The list goes on
We heard this week of the harrowing story of a dog Walker mauled by dogs. I’ll be honest the dog Walker was greedy and stupid and the dog owners negligent in allowing her to control 7 dogs of different sizes and character. These dogs deserve to have another chance - they won’t - but they are less a threat than this monster who should just be put down
Do love how it's OK to make out that all coppers are baddies.
Imagine if you grouped people based on their skin colour or having a vagina or not. Same people probably blow their lid.
We are. It doesn’t stop us respectfully discussing something. What do you mean nonce? Serial rapists get sentenced to significant sentences and murderers too but we’ve decided the death penalty reflects badly on the rest of us and so haven’t pursued this as a punishment for many many years. Death penalty doesn’t act as a deterrent in the countries where it is still allowed so don’t see what the reason would be to use it. Maybe saving a few million would be a reason I supposed and it’s an opinion one of which I think is abhorrentThere's a very easy answer and whilst you're entitled to want to continue to see the good in people, some are simply cunts.
If you consider that the death penalty for nonces, serial rapists and murderers is murder then we're on completely different pages.
Imagine if you applied that kind of proportion to an education setting in terms of safeguarding - people would rightly be losing their shit.
There's a very easy answer and whilst you're entitled to want to continue to see the good in people, some are simply cunts.
If you consider that the death penalty for nonces, serial rapists and murderers is murder then we're on completely different pages.
Wow!I doubt he’s met anyone whose committed heinous crimes
Out of interest on release would you have been happy if Colin pitchfork became your next door neighbour?
Why should we entertain your blood lust and not theirs? Maybe they thought their victims were cunts too.
There’d have to be some levels wouldn’t there and I think many would until it was a member of their family or friends found guilty or were wrongly accused and found guilty or just truly fucked up for no reason other than that’s what we sometimes do as human beingsWould those up for the death penalty support whippings for lesser crimes? Maybe the odd amputation?
how fascinating - do you think a dog should be put down if bites someone
Dogs are dogs and humans are humans we have different laws to cover there punishmenthow fascinating - do you think a dog should be put down if bites someone
If you are suggesting the death penalty for someone looking at under age porn then you are going to need to up the stakes for a rapist maybe taking out organs while they’re still alive so they bleed to death
Would those up for the death penalty support whippings for lesser crimes? Maybe the odd amputation?
Dogs are dogs and humans are humans we have different laws to cover there punishment
You know this why be an arse
So in God's eyes, are humans more important than dogs?Dogs are dogs and humans are humans we have different laws to cover there punishment
You know this why be an arse
So in God's eyes, are humans more important than dogs?
Thank fk he's not realOf course they have a soul - if Mr Huntley asks for redemption he’s off to eternal heaven and joy whereas the victims of the crime unless they declare themselves a believer are condemned to eternal hell
that’s god for you
It’s a difficult one because they sure as hell dehumanise their victims and cause a life of suffering to both them and their loved ones.Slippery slope dehumanising individuals
no I wouldn’t - I also wouldn’t be allowing the release either - would you be happy with Mr Mcready as your next door neighbour
Instead of blathering answer the actual question and if it’s a choice of living in a society or dead I’d rather him dead
Who is Mr Mcready?
Generally if someone is still a danger I’d like them kept in prison, yes. Who wouldn’t?
Well Pete volunteers in prison and clearly talks to offenders, which sounds like valid input to the discussion, even if you disagree with what he says. I’m sure we could just run the prison system in keeping with the values of whichever awful serial killer you’ve been reading about on Wikipedia this week instead, but I’m not sure it’s going to make for the most productive debate.
I don’t think animals are humans. I eat meat for a start. You probably wouldn’t like my views. We’ve got increasing evidence of plant intelligence, go too far down this path and none of us can eat.
If you want to set up a dog prison and rehabilitation centre then crack on, you have my full support.
Nope!Have you ever visited a prison @SBT
Nope!
It’s a difficult one because they sure as hell dehumanise their victims and cause a life of suffering to both them and their loved ones.
I have no problem with people with people eating meat. It’s a reality if life in the same way people drive cars that contributes to pollution
I would also accept a dog that had ripped three babies heads off should be put down. I’d probably blame the owner but would accept they die. I suspect if your children are all dead and a human had ripped their heads off you’d not me overly happy they’ve found humanity and once again prowl the streets
GenuinelyBut I don’t see why there should be
We as a society say they are and I agree that humans are the most important animal to godSo in God's eyes, are humans more important than dogs?
Genuinely
I know that’s why I say dehumanising isn’t right as that’s about me not the other person and history shows it leads to bad outcomesIt’s a difficult one because they sure as hell dehumanise their victims and cause a life of suffering to both them and their loved ones.
Okyes genuinely
I can’t believe someone guilty of that crime would be let out but the parole board do a really good job as do many of those involved in the justice system, not everyone or everything of coursehe cut childrens heads off and stuck them on iron pailings so the mother could see them when she came home
He’s as Pete would say found his humanity - he’s found redemption and is a free man - he could be your next door neighbour - who knows
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