If you have a psychopath on the loose, like this piece of shit, no lecture, law or culture change will help anyone in that same situation. I don't know the answer, but I suspect we will always have these isolated situations and we, as men will be unfairly called out every time.
Is that the CCTV of them by the road? It's fucking awful.
The thing is though, how on earth can somebody on the bus or the bus driver where that footage is from tell that is what's going on? I have watched it 10 times and you have no idea it's a copper. You can't really see if she's handcuffed. It just looks like a man and a woman stood there.
Obviously with hindsight it makes it chilling because we know what happened after.
I wouldn't look twice at what the CCTV shows if I drove past. Would anybody?
Imagine being this barrister, I know he's doing his job but fucking hell....
It says that a couple had seen him handcuffing her too but naturally assumed it was a legitimate arrest. The abuse of power is absolutely sickening.
It says that a couple had seen him handcuffing her too but naturally assumed it was a legitimate arrest. The abuse of power is absolutely sickening.
Barristers have to try that shit as it's their job and the operate on the taxi rank system that means they don't get to choose the defendant
Yeah I know, I know but I don't think I could honestly come out with the line "There are worse crimes" & sleep soundly at night.
Yeah I know, I know but I don't think I could honestly come out with the line "There are worse crimes" & sleep soundly at night.
It's hard, and I couldn't do it, but the best way to make sure the integrity of the law stands up is someone gets a fair defence. This fella has, and so we're all secure that the harshest punishment is indeed the right one.Yeah I know, I know but I don't think I could honestly come out with the line "There are worse crimes" & sleep soundly at night.
I don't think he actually thinks that, his job is just to come up with arguments that test the law. He obviously had fuck all so just ended up with that and the guy is rightly stuck behind bars.Yeah I know, I know but I don't think I could honestly come out with the line "There are worse crimes" & sleep soundly at night.
For balance, obviously I don't know so can only go off reports but apparently it was women who gave him said nickname becuase they found him creepy.I doubt it was women giving him the nickname let’s be honest. I think it’s a fair question, we’ve all had mates we think are a bit of a wrongun. What do we do? What can we do?
There’s two people I know who clearly hate women. One I wouldn’t be surprised if he did something one I’d seriously doubt it. That’s not enough to do anything though is it? Can’t go around shopping every creepy/angry guy we know. Should Marty get a knock at the door because he’s clearly got issues with women?
I don’t know, but it is an issue for men to involve themselves in IMO as it’s mostly men that these sorts of blokes show themselves to. We’re the ones that will see the early signs.
For balance, obviously I don't know so can only go off reports but apparently it was women who gave him said nickname becuase they found him creepy.
The sick killer had originally been nicknamed “The Rapist” in his former job at the Civil Nuclear Constabulary because women found him creepy, but it wasn’t enough to prevent him joining the Met.
More will come out about this guy. Free
There's been a verdict in another case involving The Met Police today.
Judges criticise Met police after woman wins spy cop case
Tribunal rules in favour of Kate Wilson over breach of human rights, citing ‘lamentable failings’www.theguardian.com
I doubt it was women giving him the nickname let’s be honest. I think it’s a fair question, we’ve all had mates we think are a bit of a wrongun. What do we do? What can we do?
There’s two people I know who clearly hate women. One I wouldn’t be surprised if he did something one I’d seriously doubt it. That’s not enough to do anything though is it? Can’t go around shopping every creepy/angry guy we know. Should Marty get a knock at the door because he’s clearly got issues with women?
I don’t know, but it is an issue for men to involve themselves in IMO as it’s mostly men that these sorts of blokes show themselves to. We’re the ones that will see the early signs.
Not surprised, the ones i've met on a personal level were scumbags.It is true. There are hundreds of serving MET officers with convictions as serious as fraud, assault, and drug offences
Good point.
I shall edit my post to remove her name as she is irrelevant to this case.
Shall I remove the names Katie Hopkins and Kirsty Allsop too, since though I agree they are idiots, their ill-judged comments have been selected for special censure on this thread?
Or shall I let the posters who chose to highlight them do that even though I see them as irrelevant?
150 serving Metropolitan Police officers are convicted criminals
It comes after a serving officer was charged with the murder of Sarah Everard.metro.co.uk
I brought up Kirsty Allsop because a father posted on twitter a post almost identical to Shmmees about what do you tell your daughters about the police now and that was her response.
If that response had been from anyone I would have hilighted it and the trigger fordoingso was how similar Shmmeees post and the one onTwitter were.
This data was originally released due to a freedom of information request as well so its not something that newspapers are sensationalising.
He’ll be in cat a for the rest of his life.Yes listening to her parents statment i couldnt compute how they must feel. just so shocking and sad. im a really liberal person but its hard to justify keeping someone who could do that alive when they were in a position of trust. I just hope he has an awful time of it as an ex cop in prison.
You're more then welcome to pop round and knock on my door anytime.
Really feel for the parents , I don't know how I'd ever be able to come to terms with what happened if it was me . Worst imaginable nightmare
There's a LOT of people (me included) who've posted comments about The Wife/Missus/Ball&Chain etc. on here.I don’t think you’re a wrongun, just that you’ve posted some anti woman stuff. I don’t think you’re about to go kidnap some bird. So my point was even though I agree we should be on the lookout what are you supposed to do?
I’m just going to shut up and stop digging.
There's a LOT of people (me included) who've posted comments about The Wife/Missus/Ball&Chain etc. on here.
Not so many who make racist 'jokes', or post homophobic comments.
Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.
Sorry JAM, disagree with this. I agree there's a line that shouldn't be crossed, but good natured humour where your Mrs is the butt of the joke is fine. Women in general, perhaps not so much, but I think we know what's acceptable and I don't see anything here over the top. You could argue that's because I'm male, but I'm also white and straight, yet know if someones being a dick on race or sexuality.There's a LOT of people (me included) who've posted comments about The Wife/Missus/Ball&Chain etc. on here.
Not so many who make racist 'jokes', or post homophobic comments.
Maybe it's time to look in the mirror.
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