If they flushed out the extremists from the SBT there could be a really helpful organisation. .
If they flushed out the extremists from the SBT this could be a really good website. .
How is it going out of my way?
My agenda is ccfc as I said before.
What's the agenda of somebody who works for the council and calls season ticket holders nobs? What's their agenda that they make things up to try and mislead fans?
It's worrying you struggle with the point. As long as people shout sisu you will follow.
There is no decent reply, all that's said is "we will look into it". You have other board members giving it loads on social media and being made to look so silly they have to delete their account.
That's my point when I say some board members do great stuff, are relatable and discuss things. Others stand behind them throwing in grenades to disrupt that.
It's probably time you start looking closer to home for agendas rather than just applauding people because they shout sisu over and over. Instead of moaning at me for pointing it out, maybe have a look into what I'm saying and do something about it?
If I was heavily involved with sisu and you pointed this out. Who would be the one with the agenda, me or you?
Thats what GMK did only one side of the arguement was allowed....edited for you
I have never hidden my agenda.
You on one other hand come up with the mine is CCFC yet do absolutely nothing but slag everyone and anything they try to do, dig into their private lives and post it all over the net.
Thats what GMK did only one side of the arguement was allowed....
What happened to that site exactly.......
Not on about me.When have I said anything about your personal agenda? If anything if you want to go through my posts when I may have mentioned it I have made a point of using you as an example of somebody being straight down the line.
Where have I dug into anybody's private life? I have posted something that is relevant to the situation of CCFC and is related to that. It took less than 5 minutes and google to see that.
What sides of stories aren't allowed? I must have missed all of your posts being removed.
Not on about me.
Look how you are all hounding that Ellis accusing him of being a pedo.
Did it to Steve Brown accusing him of being a Racist need I go on.
Thing is why?
I wouldn't dream of doing all that shit discrediting people their families might read posts on here.
As for deleting posts I was replying to a comment on GMK not SBT
It would be nice to see the trust do something constructive for a change. A decent trust would be able to act as mediation or something as they just have the club's best interest at heart. I genuinely believe that our trust would rather the club die and start again if it meant Sisu went than do anything meaningful to help our situation now. they shout Sisu and nothing else, it's petulant and unhelpful.
"Are you listening Tim and Joy" - honestly does anybody think that is something worthwhile for them to be doing at this stage?
I'd say their biggest issue is PR tbh. They really need somebody who works for a PR company to have the time and inclination to help them out. I appreciate getting that for free is easier said than done...I think they do do some stuff in the background that's constructive and appreciate that they sometimes are privy to information that can't be publicised. But I also think that sometimes they keep some stuff to themselves because it appeals to their ego to be in the know.
That may not be the case but it's just the impression I get.
It would help if they didn't restrict themselves with the silly £1 for life membership thing. I'd happily pay £10 a year to be a member of a decent functioning trust that enables them to invest in a bit of PR assistance. It would also give their claim of being the biggest fan group more clout.I'd say their biggest issue is PR tbh. They really need somebody who works for a PR company to have the time and inclination to help them out. I appreciate getting that for free is easier said than done...
I do feel for CJ, he comes on here and communicates, says things like 'I'll pass that on' and 'that will be noted' and then the trust just carry on as normal. Either he's mugging us off (I don't think that at all) or they're mugging him off.
It would help if they didn't restrict themselves with the silly £1 for life membership thing. I'd happily pay £10 a year to be a member of a decent functioning trust that enables them to invest in a bit of PR assistance. It would also give their claim of being the biggest fan group more clout.
As an aside... significant that the former majority shareholder and former Chairman is the only one not to respond?Jan 18 Coventry MP's contacted, Geoffrey Robinson, Colleen Fletcher and Jim Cunningham asking what steps being taken to avoid homelessness for CCFC. Response from Jim Cunningham, suggesting meeting with Chris Heaton Harris ( which we'd already done in late 2017). Response from Colleen Fletcher offering support.
I'd say their biggest issue is PR tbh. They really need somebody who works for a PR company to have the time and inclination to help them out. I appreciate getting that for free is easier said than done...
It would help if they didn't restrict themselves with the silly £1 for life membership thing. I'd happily pay £10 a year to be a member of a decent functioning trust that enables them to invest in a bit of PR assistance. It would also give their claim of being the biggest fan group more clout.
In my opinion and many more, the ones that may back down on the current riders and runners are the EFL and allow us to play outside the City - That will not be acceptable as we may as well fold as I will not entertain going out of the city - enough is enough
Problem is (and tbh in a purely financial sense, I'm not averse to a year deal) is crisis fatigue.the general consensus I'm getting is another year long deal. No way to run a club but probably the best we can hope for in the circumstances.
If this were true, at least it could mean that this round of legal action would be over with this time next year. (Hopefully, possibly, maybe).the general consensus I'm getting is another year long deal. No way to run a club but probably the best we can hope for in the circumstances.
Even if so, there'd be another along...If this were true, at least it could mean that this round of legal action would be over with this time next year. (Hopefully, possibly, maybe).
Problem is (and tbh in a purely financial sense, I'm not averse to a year deal) is crisis fatigue.
We had it previously, where the pre-SISU board kept having serious issues and, from a strong start, the fan passion ebbed away. Northampton (sort of!) fired the fans up, but then it all ebbed away. Likewise, if we get tied into a perpetual will we have a ground or nopt, eventually all parties will take it for granted.
And *that's* when it gets dangerous.
My bigger fear is what happens the year after? City of Culture ought to save us...totally agree, there is bound to come a time when we don't get an extension and the longer wasps are here the more likely it is.
I think the embarrassment the city would feel driving out its football club in the year it is city of sport will be a big factor this time round.
But then that's been said since they turned up!Surely at some time in the next five years Sisu have to have gone?
Ok this has been bugging me recently........
Some of the comments made about the Trust on this website have been shameful, and make you wonder as to purpose. I am all for good debate and people having an opinion they can voice, however character assassination is not something i personally want part of. There seems to be a lot of "timely" focus on an organisation and its leadership that are not in a position to change anything, only to challenge. Yet next to nothing of any importance is done about SISU & Wasps or even CCC.
Often see it said the Trust Board are in it for their own ends, for their sense of ego, for their own agenda. It is voluntary so i wonder what it is they gain other than lost time, frustration, insults and a sense of why the hell do i bother. Certainly the personal bashing here and other places engenders no sense of greater ego i can see, quite the reverse. "They want a seat at the club board", really, read the info on club ownership on their site they wont own the shares, and a fans representative doesn't have to be a board member of the Trust. "They want to run the club" again the info on the website says they would like fans to have a minority interest and the club to be run by professional sports orientated people. The club will be run by whoever has the majority stake, the Trust wants the fans to have a proper say though.
Yes the Trust do make mistakes, who doesn't. Not really a revelation, and those mistakes are actually in large part only someones differing opinion that is voiced here or other places. The Trust are amateurs, yes for me some of their PR is too emotive and too slanted against the owners, but it doesn't mean they do not care.
The worrying thing is that the bile on all sides will only increase the nearer we get to the end of the season if no solution is found. No doubt a whole lot of that bile will be sent the Trust's way
No disrespect meant to those who put forward a reasoned argument, but i find some of what is said and claimed poor at best.
If something is claimed as fact on here, my advice would be to find out for yourself - just to be clear even on my own postings.
Just my opinion - I wont be arguing about it
The obvious option all round would be a rolling one year deal or the current, or very similar, terms with either side being able to give 12 months notice. Then at some point when all this shit is over something more permanent can be sorted.Problem is (and tbh in a purely financial sense, I'm not averse to a year deal) is crisis fatigue.
We had it previously, where the pre-SISU board kept having serious issues and, from a strong start, the fan passion ebbed away. Northampton (sort of!) fired the fans up, but then it all ebbed away. Likewise, if we get tied into a perpetual will we have a ground or not, eventually all parties will take it for granted.
And *that's* when it gets dangerous.
I'd agree, that'd be great.The obvious option all round would be a rolling one year deal or the current, or very similar, terms with either side being able to give 12 months notice. Then at some point when all this shit is over something more permanent can be sorted.
IMO this issue is amplified by a lack of transparency / communication by the trust. When concerns have been raised, and I think the concerns have some validity, the trust could have chosen to answer the concerns. Instead they take shots at the fanbase, this forum included, with a we're right, everyone else is wrong attitude.Some of the comments made about the Trust on this website have been shameful, and make you wonder as to purpose. I am all for good debate and people having an opinion they can voice, however character assassination is not something i personally want part of.
It would help if they didn't restrict themselves with the silly £1 for life membership thing. I'd happily pay £10 a year to be a member of a decent functioning trust that enables them to invest in a bit of PR assistance. It would also give their claim of being the biggest fan group more clout.
I'd also chuck more in like that.
You would think there must be city fans who work in PR who could spare a couple of hours a month for advice / planning.
Watch this space on this. We have discussed it at length in the last few months and are probably looking at the Summer. It was never meant to be a £1 life membership and it's something we should've done differently. We'd be in a far better position on all fronts now if we had. On the PR front, we're always open to assistance from anyone that can offer it.
If I boycott, will it make you or certain board members personally go bankrupt?*
*This is a joke, sarcasm, whatever it wants to be called. I know full well it makes no difference but I am poking fun at the boycotts of CCFC that have been pushed by particular people. CJ is not buying new photo booths with the trust money!
If you need any help implementing it online let me know! Some sort of subscription would be easy to do. Paypal / Stripe etc.
Get away from Joomla for the website though, although if you don't want to there would be plenty of options!
Lol. What about sports, performing arts or catering equipment?
Don't mind that too much. I suspect my £1 has already kitted you out.*
*Again, this is clearly sarcasm not even aimed at CJ but at people with boycotts to make them realise how they sound.
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