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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
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Would someone going to the meeting mind asking a few questions. Anyone feel free to add your own on here.......
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #2
What are the 17 points you are trying to negotiate with Wasps.
Are they agreeing to any of them or refusing all of them?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #3
Would the club and other interested parties accept that the cultural case for any stadium move should take precedence over the financial?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #4
Why when we were talking to Rugby council the initial stadium size was to be 18k capacity.
Now it has become 15k.
A successful season next season will see us exceeding 15k.
If we get promoted next season do you still plan to build a 15k stadium?
We regularly averaged 20k in our championship years and that was on the back of a relegation not a promotion
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #5
What has happened to the idea of bulging our own academy and training facility?
What will we now do in regards to these two areas?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #6
Where will we move in 2 years if the Butts isn't ready yet or we are bogged down in planning application battles
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #7
Can the club present a financial forecast for the club based on:
1) staying at the Ricoh long term
2) a ground share at the Butts
3) a new stadium in Coventry
4) a new stadium outside Coventry

Appreciate there are unknown factors so it won't be an exact science but they should be able to present something that gives an indication.
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #8
Have the club looked at other sites within the city boundary (e.g.: Browns Lane, derelict site next to the fire station)?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #9
What size of land do we now need?
I take it, we no longer need 60 acres.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • May 22, 2016
  • #10
Can the club place on the website a summary of the accounts year by year since SISU's takeover. Something similar to which Everton produced. Would be good to have everything in one place as a reference for when we get situation similar to Juggy's article claiming millions have been taken out.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #11
Is there anyway possible the Butts can be expanded to hold a 30k capacity stadium?
Have you asked this question or have you set the 25k limit yourself?
 

Grendel

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #12
dongonzalos said:
Is there anyway possible the Butts can be expanded to hold a 30k capacity stadium?
Have you asked this question or have you set the 25k limit yourself?
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This is getting really tiresome, you do realise the likes of Eastwood and Richardson will be high fiving at this shit don't you?

Or perhaps that is your intention.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #13
Grendel said:
This is getting really tiresome, you do realise the likes of Eastwood and Richardson will be high fiving at this shit don't you?

Or perhaps that is your intention.
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Don't really give a rats arse what they are doing.
If we are genuinely going to expand the Butts neither should we and as a Cov City fan you should be concerned about one day not been able to get a ticket at your own club.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 22, 2016
  • #14
dongonzalos said:
Don't really give a rats arse what they are doing.
If we are genuinely going to expand the Butts neither should we and as a Cov City fan you should be concerned about one day not been able to get a ticket at your own club.
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Why is that all people are focusing on, not being able to get a ticket?

I am a cov city fan and I'm not worrying about that just yet?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #15
Nick said:
Why is that all people are focusing on, not being able to get a ticket?

I am a cov city fan and I'm not worrying about that just yet?
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Because we are proposing building a 15k stadium which clearly isn't big enough and now is our chance to influence that.
If you worry about it when you can't actually get the ticket I reckon you maybe a bit late in the day.
I am not happy about the 25k limit but the real bugger is potentially 15k when we are in the championship!!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 22, 2016
  • #16
dongonzalos said:
Because we are proposing building a 15k stadium which clearly isn't big enough and now is our chance to influence that.
If you worry about it when you can't actually get the ticket I reckon you maybe a bit late in the day.
I am not happy about the 25k limit but the real bugger is potentially 15k when we are in the championship!!
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So as I keep saying, let's fill the Ricoh and show them it isn't viable. Get the Telegraph and Trust to run a campaign to fill the Ricoh to show the club that there are more fans so 15k just won't do.

Instead, if people don't bother turning up and attendances sit low then it doesn't really show them.

No point people sitting at home refusing to go to games and then moaning that they might not get a ticket and stuff like that.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #17
Nick said:
So as I keep saying, let's fill the Ricoh and show them it isn't viable. Get the Telegraph and Trust to run a campaign to fill the Ricoh to show the club that there are more fans so 15k just won't do.

Instead, if people don't bother turning up and attendances sit low then it doesn't really show them.

No point people sitting at home refusing to go to games and then moaning that they might not get a ticket and stuff like that.
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Keep agreeing with you every time you say it and I think next season will show 15k isn't enough.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 22, 2016
  • #18
dongonzalos said:
Keep agreeing with you every time you say it and I think next season will show 15k isn't enough.
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I hope it does! I'd love nothing more than 15-16k average next year.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #19
dongonzalos said:
What are the 17 points you are trying to negotiate with Wasps.
Are they agreeing to any of them or refusing all of them?
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Got to be the major question. As TF and CRFC are at the meeting I'm guessing if asked that will get glossed over with waffle and filibuster.

Best thing the SCG can do is really push them on plans for the BPA. If pushed hard enough they'll either trip themselves up or have a half sensible plan.

Won't happen either way.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • May 22, 2016
  • #20
Will be interesting to hear what CRFC have to say about it all.
 

Grendel

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #21
skybluetony176 said:
Got to be the major question. As TF and CRFC are at the meeting I'm guessing if asked that will get glossed over with waffle and filibuster.

Best thing the SCG can do is really push them on plans for the BPA. If pushed hard enough they'll either trip themselves up or have a half sensible plan.

Won't happen either way.
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No they will just say negotiations are happening and are confidential which is what every business would say.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #22
Grendel said:
This is getting really tiresome, you do realise the likes of Eastwood and Richardson will be high fiving at this shit don't you?

Or perhaps that is your intention.
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I'd imagine that they'll be high fiving at the prospect of their biggest competition (as you put it on another thread) deliberately downsizing and making it easier for them to fill the void first. If I didn't know better I'd say they're your paymaster but the truth is they know that they can rely on frothy mouthed idiots like yourself who are so blinkered in blaming everyone aside from SISU that you'll focus on getting away from the Ricoh at any cost to the club so long as you can have a split second of sticking two fingers up to Wasps and CCC. They're probably high fiving at SISU for supplying all the ammunition you need to get in that state to. Let's face it, all they have to do is let SISU talk and say nothing themselves and you and others have built yourselves into a frenzy. You don't even have any details on anything. Tit bits and sound bites with no detail is enough to get you going. And you call others idiots. You should take a look in the mirror because you're willingly participating in playground politics.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #23
Grendel said:
No they will just say negotiations are happening and are confidential which is what every business would say.
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I didn't think commercial confidentiality is allowed?



Oh that only count's for Wasps. Gotcha.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #24
dongonzalos said:
as a Cov City fan you should be concerned about one day not been able to get a ticket at your own club.
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Unless you think we're suddenly going to double season ticket sales that won't be a problem. If and when we move to a new ground existing season ticket holders will no doubt get first option on renewals. If we then reach a point that we are doing so well it is sold out every week isn't that a good thing?
 
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dongonzalos

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #25
chiefdave said:
Unless you think we're suddenly going to double season ticket sales that won't be a problem. If and when we move to a new ground existing season ticket holders will no doubt get first option on renewals. If we then reach a point that we are doing so well it is sold out every week isn't that a good thing?
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I believe we will be exceeding 15k in the second half of next season. Never mind if we get to the championship.
Yes as a season ticket holder yes in theory you should be ok. However things change in life, finances, work, health and it maybe that a season ticket may not be an option because suddenly you can only attend two thirds of the games.
Then you miss out on a ticket in the past that only happened at the massive games with a 15k stadium that will be happening to people regularly.
I know some selfish people say tough. However it doesn't have to be "tough" if we start with the right capacity 18-23k
Why is it 15k to start with?
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #26
dongonzalos said:
I believe we will be exceeding 15k in the second half of next season. Never mind if we get to the championship.
Yes as a season ticket holder yes in theory you should be ok. However things change in life, finances, work, health and it maybe that a season ticket may not be an option because suddenly you can only attend two thirds of the games.
Then you miss out on a ticket in the past that only happened at the massive games with a 15k stadium that will be happening to people regularly.
I know some selfish people say tough. However it doesn't have to be "tough" if we start with the right capacity 18-23k
Why is it 15k to start with?
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If we can sustain a promotion push next season I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to average over 15K next season maybe even as high as 20K after Easter if we're in or strongly pushing for a top 2 place. Certainly looking at the way crowds were growing before we slipped it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #27
If your sending someone out to look for the right coloured curtains again, could they be fitted with a decent GPS tracking system. Just in case.
 

chiefdave

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #28
dongonzalos said:
Why is it 15k to start with?
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We've had 8 attendance of over 15K since 2012. The majority of those haven't been more than 16K.
The best way to show 15K is too small is to have more than 15K there every game next season.
 
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Nick

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #29
skybluetony176 said:
If we can sustain a promotion push next season I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to average over 15K next season maybe even as high as 20K after Easter if we're in or strongly pushing for a top 2 place. Certainly looking at the way crowds were growing before we slipped it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
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Didn't the crowds pretty much drop after 1 loss?
 
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Otis

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #30
Nick said:
Didn't the crowds pretty much drop after 1 loss?
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Yep.

Perpetual failure over a long period of time will do that to you.

Always waiting for the next failure and waiting for it all to go wrong.

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stupot07

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #31
chiefdave said:
We've had 8 attendance of over 15K since 2012. The majority of those haven't been more than 16K.
The best way to show 15K is too small is to have more than 15K there every game next season.
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Yup, and if to tickets were hard to come by you would be getting 12.5-13.5k week in week out, and not the odd 15-16k mixed in with 8-9k crowds, I mean 8k for a league game in a 32k stadium is fecking rediculous....

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Nick

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #32
Otis said:
Yep.

Perpetual failure over a long period of time will do that to you.

Always waiting for the next failure and waiting for it all to go wrong.

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Then you look at other teams who maintained the high attendances throughout even with relegation
 

sw88

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #33
My question would be 'is there a space around the table for Dong' after all these questions
 
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Otis

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #34
Nick said:
Then you look at other teams who maintained the high attendances throughout even with relegation
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Nick said:
Didn't the crowds pretty much drop after 1 loss?
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Did they have 15 seasons of failure though and no promotions or play offs?

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Otis

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  • May 22, 2016
  • #35
sw88 said:
My question would be 'is there a space around the table for Dong' after all these questions
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After all those questions I think they are going to need a bong rather than a dong.
 
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