Is that now not happening? I was liking the idea if a ground by KenilworthIt’s just a good job Sisu never delivered their new stadium
I haven’t said that our current stadium is too small, I said 25,000 would be too small when you said 30,000 is too big!
Yep, that’s a fair comment.There’s isn't much disagreement here, is there? Historically, 25,000 would’ve suited us perfectly which is why the decision to leave HR in the first place wasn’t really necessary. Now we are knocking on the door of the Premiership as a successful Championship side, we’re beginning to tap into the potential identified when the Arena project was envisaged in the 90s. In a way, we’re both right. Is that fair?
There’s isn't much disagreement here, is there? Historically, 25,000 would’ve suited us perfectly which is why the decision to leave HR in the first place wasn’t really necessary. Now we are knocking on the door of the Premiership as a successful Championship side, we’re beginning to tap into the potential identified when the Arena project was envisaged in the 90s. In a way, we’re both right. Is that fair?
Would've made an acceptable stadium for the academy and U21's...It’s just a good job Sisu never delivered their new stadium
If we’d stayed in the Prem or even the Championship the 24k at HR wouldn’t have been close to enough.
Why do you say that? Our highest average attendance in the Prem years was sub 21k. We’re we selling out of STs every year with a waiting list then?
I’m glad we’ve got a facility that is Premiership quality as that is our current trajectory. That said, my early experiences of the RICOH was it being depressingly half empty most of the time and teams singing ‘your grounds too big for you’. At least now we get ‘where were you when you were shit?!’
I never had the privilege of going to Premier League match as a Cov fan.
Why do you say that? Our highest average attendance in the Prem years was sub 21k. We’re we selling out of STs every year with a waiting list then?
I’m glad we’ve got a facility that is Premiership quality as that is our current trajectory. That said, my early experiences of the RICOH was it being depressingly half empty most of the time and teams singing ‘your grounds too big for you’. At least now we get ‘where were you when you were shit?!’
I never had the privilege of going to Premier League match as a Cov fan.
They wanted pints that filled up from the bottom!In the season we had our highest PL average (just under 21k) Tottenham had an average of 34k.
So why did Tottenham feel the need to build a new 60k stadium?
Never a big club?If we’d stayed in the Prem or even the Championship the 24k at HR wouldn’t have been close to enough.
In the season we had our highest PL average (just under 21k) Tottenham had an average of 34k.
So why did Tottenham feel the need to build a new 60k stadium?
In the season we had our highest PL average (just under 21k) Tottenham had an average of 34k.
So why did Tottenham feel the need to build a new 60k stadium?
I turn my back and someone made it a city.I know what you mean about fans visiting London from all over the world. Why not get them along to the stadium buy some souvenirs and shirts, watch a game or 2.Their average attendance in 2000 was 35,000 now 61,000 +.Tottenham is in one of the most visited cities in the world, it's fair to say they are looking to exploit that as much as provide tickets for demand from Tottenham fans.
Tottenham is the fag end of London.Tottenham is in one of the most visited cities in the world, it's fair to say they are looking to exploit that as much as provide tickets for demand from Tottenham fans.
We will rarely sell out 32k in the championship.Sorry but it’s not 1993 anymore.
We would do what 99.9% of all PL clubs do, and that is sell out every single game.
I’m not sure why people think the CBS was built in the first place, do they think the club just did it for a laugh?
It was built because in the late 90s HR had become a barrier to growth.
In terms of statue we’re a club that should aspire to be a PL team, but also recognise that we’re not out of place in the Championship. For that 32k is an ideal capacity
I think it depends on the pricing and level of success, it's the kind of goal which would be a stretch but if we continue to be ambitious and successful in the Championship, why not over time?We will rarely sell out 32k in the championship.
PropheticI think it depends on the pricing and level of success, it's the kind of goal which would be a stretch but if we continue to be ambitious and successful in the Championship, why not over time?
If you'd told me when there were 375 of us watching Max Biamou's hat trick that within five years we'd be regularly getting the 25k attendances that Adi Viveash referred to in April 2020, I'd have thought you were on drugs and yet here we are.
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They were selling out 95% of the capacity of their stadium for the next 15 seasons. If we averaged 30-31,000+ attendances in the next 15 years then there’d be a reasonable argument to expand.
We will rarely sell out 32k in the championship.
The aim isn't to be in the Championship
Obviously not, but even in the Prem we were flirting with relegation most seasons. We’re a big Championship club with potential.We were selling out 95% of our capacity in the last few years of the PL, and would've continued to do so had we not been relegated
Probably controversial but maybe it'd be worth investing in making the media/tv facilities more attractive to broadcasters. Probably would have better RoI and would have lower costs and therefore lower riskObviously not, but even in the Prem we were flirting with relegation most seasons. We’re a big Championship club with potential.
Look at Leicester, won the Prem, was in Europa league and relegated in a short period of time.
Again, the riches of the Prem come from TV rights, not ticket sales. So extending the CBS, aside from costing a lot of money, isn’t worth the costs.
We don’t even utilise the space we’ve got so this topic really is a non-starter until we do.
'Sell outs' at the moment are what, about 24K home fans? Before anyone even considers expanding the ground they would look at the configuration, w
Same as all the other biggish midlands clubs. They don't need a 40k stadium in the premier. We're one of those. We're not as big as Forest or Leicester.The aim isn't to be in the Championship
The existing facilities don’t seem to have put off media/tv given the number of matches that have been moved to be televised.Probably controversial but maybe it'd be worth investing more in making the media/tv facilities to make it attractive to broadcasters. Probably would have better RoI and would have lower costs and therefore lower risk
No, but we've got to be thinking bigger, like PLThe existing facilities don’t seem to have put off media/tv given the number of matches that have been moved to be televised.
So what do you think will deter media when we are in the PL?No, but we've got to be thinking bigger, like PL
I think if we went up and stayed up or looked like yo-yoing reliably a 42k ish ground is justified. Maybe we finally get this:
Let’s push our average attendances above 30,000 before we get delusions of grandeur. There’s a reason Villa, Forest, Wolves, WBA, Derby and Leicester haven’t extended.
Just that we're less likely to get on the tv compared to the bigger clubs, in which case we've got to do what we can to convince them to come to our games rather than those of one of the other unfashionable, lower end teamsSo what do you think will deter media when we are in the PL?
I’m not sure how facilities will encourage more tv coverage, for All I know ours may already compare favourably. Not being a lower end team would obviously help though.Just that we're less likely to get on the tv compared to the bigger clubs, in which case we've got to do what we can to convince them to come to our games rather than those of one of the other unfashionable, lower end teams
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