Sheaf (15 Viewers)

SwanLane · Aug 3, 2024

Burnley are the most difficult to assess for me. Their squad is much better than their PL points tally in 23-24 would suggest. They underperformed due mainly to Kompany’s stubbornness and refusal to be pragmatic.

They actually did OK in the last couple of months. Now here they are with same quality levels & more experience than in 22-23. I’d rate Scott Parker 5-6/10. If he starts slowly, they’ll pop a cap in his ass and get a better manager in. My gut still says strong top 6.

BlueSkiesForever · Aug 3, 2024

itsabuzzard said:
So, do you post on here in the expectation that you won't be questioned? Isn't the point of a forum to encourage discussion?
If you don't think swapping "slight" for "much" in a line of reasoning changes things signficantly, then count me perplexed.
Many posters on here are strangers to each other. So what?

I just don’t think it’s that big of deal. I believe I even used the phrase “teams will be a lot weaker” in the same paragraph when referring to the difficulty of the league. I’m just using common terminology, it’s not like I’m forming a legal contract or something. Why are we still debating over this?

SwanLane · Aug 3, 2024

Torquay Sky Blue said:
In the game I'm referring to, they had a free kick 25 yards out with 3 minutes to go and it went back to their keeper. I like the bloke but he manages as he played

He’s generally got them playing on the front foot. Sure there’s exceptions and times where he screwed up. When we played them at home last season, they created quite a lot tbf. 3-0 flattered us a bit.

Legia Sky Blue · Aug 3, 2024

Torquay Sky Blue said:
In the game I'm referring to, they had a free kick 25 yards out with 3 minutes to go and it went back to their keeper. I like the bloke but he manages as he played

You've picked out one instance in a game where there's every chance that particular decision was made by the players on the pitch. That season Middlesbrough scored 84 league goals as opposed to our 58. Only runaway champions, Burnley, scored more with 87. Those stats don't indicate he manages with a negative mindset.

Torquay Sky Blue · Aug 3, 2024

He set up for a draw and he got one . They should of won it .
Perhaps I shouldn't be selective but it was a big big game

SkyblueTexan · Aug 3, 2024

Is he still injured and if so for how long?

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 3, 2024

SwanLane said:
Burnley are the most difficult to assess for me. Their squad is much better than their PL points tally in 23-24 would suggest. They underperformed due mainly to Kompany’s stubbornness and refusal to be pragmatic.

They actually did OK in the last couple of months. Now here they are with same quality levels & more experience than in 22-23. I’d rate Scott Parker 5-6/10. If he starts slowly, they’ll pop a cap in his ass and get a better manager in. My gut still says strong top 6.

Parker has got 2 promotions with 2 different teams from this league - with better than most squads how is he a 5/6?

SwanLane · Aug 3, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Parker has got 2 promotions with 2 different teams from this league - with better than most squads how is he a 5/6?

He’s had some good squads but could have done much better with them, even if he did get them promoted. As an example, he took Bournemouth up in ‘22 but lost the plot and acted as though they were lambs to the slaughter. Gary O’Neil takes over and finishes lower/mid table PL.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 3, 2024

SwanLane said:
He’s had some good squads but could have done much better with them, even if he did get them promoted. As an example, he took Bournemouth up in ‘22 but lost the plot and acted as though they were lambs to the slaughter. Gary O’Neil takes over and finishes lower/mid table PL.

But we’re talking about what Parker could do in the championship, I’d be shocked if Burnley are not in the top 3/4 come the end of the season.

Parker knows what he’s doing in this league

Chris1987 · Aug 4, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
I just don’t think it’s that big of deal. I believe I even used the phrase “teams will be a lot weaker” in the same paragraph when referring to the difficulty of the league. I’m just using common terminology, it’s not like I’m forming a legal contract or something. Why are we still debating over this?

Because you constantly move goalposts.
Slight and much even you have to admit have very different meanings . Why attempt to defend it at all ? Yes it's only a "fucking forum" ( your words ) where everyone is entitled to their opinions but why say something and then attempt to defend it when you change the total meaning ? It's utter bollocks Just don't get it at all.

BlueSkiesForever · Aug 4, 2024

Chris1987 said:
Because you constantly move goalposts.
Slight and much even you have to admit have very different meanings . Why attempt to defend it at all ? Yes it's only a "fucking forum" ( your words ) where everyone is entitled to their opinions but why say something and then attempt to defend it when you change the total meaning ? It's utter bollocks Just don't get it at all.

Maybe the exact phrase that I use changes depending on the mood I’m in or the way we’ve played recently or certain things I’ve reconsidered or even just the particular word that comes to mind at the time? Why does that matter to you so much?

In regards to how easy or difficult we think the league is this year, we’re all just speculating, it’s not an exact science so I really don’t think it’s worth calling someone out on one particular adverb that they’ve used in a paragraph. Your obsession with this sort of shit is absurd and yet hilarious at the same time

Chris1987 · Aug 4, 2024

BlueSkiesForever said:
Maybe the exact phrase that I use changes depending on the mood I’m in or the way we’ve played recently or certain things I’ve reconsidered or even just the particular word that comes to mind at the time? Why does that matter to you so much?

In regards to how easy or difficult we think the league is this year, we’re all just speculating, it’s not an exact science so I really don’t think it’s worth calling someone out on one particular adverb that they’ve used in a paragraph. Your obsession with this sort of shit is absurd and yet hilarious at the same time

Firstly it's no obsession, it's only indicating where you have exchanged particular words to inextricably alter the meaning of your original post in reaction to the adverse feedback you receive. I could easily spout nonsense and then either admit it was shit in the first instance ( the correct response) or change the odd word to comprehensively alter the original statement which is your approach. Then you defend it by claiming that the respondent is obsessed . I challenge you to take a close look in the mirror and try to believe the shit that is coming back at you. You will find it laughable.

SwanLane · Aug 4, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
But we’re talking about what Parker could do in the championship, I’d be shocked if Burnley are not in the top 3/4 come the end of the season.

Parker knows what he’s doing in this league

Agree that Burnley will prob be top 3 or 4. If Parker was better than 5-6/10, they’d walk the league.

BlueSkiesForever · Aug 4, 2024

Chris1987 said:
Firstly it's no obsession, it's only indicating where you have exchanged particular words to inextricably alter the meaning of your original post in reaction to the adverse feedback you receive. I could easily spout nonsense and then either admit it was shit in the first instance ( the correct response) or change the odd word to comprehensively alter the original statement which is your approach. Then you defend it by claiming that the respondent is obsessed . I challenge you to take a close look in the mirror and try to believe the shit that is coming back at you. You will find it laughable.

It really does come across as an obsession tbh. You’re telling me to look in the mirror but all you ever do with regards to my comments is try to slate me for the most insignificant shit possible. It’s utterly bizarre that something so small bothers you that much.

I don’t feel like I’m changing anything significant about the stance I have on this season’s difficultly. In reference to this never-ending saga, I’ve used “a lot”, “slightly” and “much”, maybe my view is somewhere in the middle? Maybe I think of something in between writing comments that I hadn’t considered before? Maybe it’s considerable, maybe it’s not, maybe it doesn’t matter, maybe it’s an off-the-cuff comment that was never written to be analysed in this much depth, maybe we should talk about things that actually matter to our football club?

skybluecam · Aug 4, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Aug 4, 2024

SwanLane said:
Agree that Burnley will prob be top 3 or 4. If Parker was better than 5-6/10, they’d walk the league.

See I disagree, if anything I think the league is stronger than it was last time. Leeds the obvious inclusion, we’re stronger, Middlesbrough are stronger. Norwich - Parker has a 100% track record in this league. As a championship manager he’s deffo better than a 5-6/10

I expect them to be in the top 2. I’m also confident we’ll be there too.

mmttww · Aug 4, 2024

*clicks on thread
*sees new micro essays
*closes thread

SwanLane · Aug 4, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
See I disagree, if anything I think the league is stronger than it was last time. Leeds the obvious inclusion, we’re stronger, Middlesbrough are stronger. Norwich - Parker has a 100% track record in this league. As a championship manager he’s deffo better than a 5-6/10

I expect them to be in the top 2. I’m also confident we’ll be there too.

Fair enough. Let’s see what happens.

covcity4life · Aug 4, 2024

We need either a CB or a RB as a priority.

Then a CM

That's all I think. We are nearly there

Winny the Bish · Aug 4, 2024

Rumour going round the game yesterday that a Prem team has reached the asking price for Sheaf

2024/25 League 1 Champs? · Aug 4, 2024

selling Sheaf now before / at the start of this season would be disastrous for us in the same way selling Gus was last season…

unless we’re bringing Gus back as a replacement I suppose

Perennial Lurker · Aug 4, 2024

Only positive it would give us real clout to buy 2 quality midfielders but would mean bedding in two new players

2024/25 League 1 Champs? · Aug 4, 2024

Perennial Lurker said:
Only positive it would give us real clout to buy 2 quality midfielders but would mean bedding in two new players

…in a vital position too - same issue as last year if we have too many new players across the park, we need a fast start instead of playing catch up five or 10 games in

Winny the Bish · Aug 4, 2024

Perennial Lurker said:
Only positive it would give us real clout to buy 2 quality midfielders but would mean bedding in two new players

Could get some real quality replacements with £15m

Governmac · Aug 4, 2024

Winny the Bish said:
Rumour going round the game yesterday that a Prem team has reached the asking price for Sheaf

someone on the championship subreddit said the same.

shmmeee · Aug 4, 2024

£15m in, £4m x 2 on CMs, £2m RB, £4m CB, £1m Doug’s hair fund. PL next season no problem.

shmmeee · Aug 4, 2024

Governmac said:
someone on the championship subreddit said the same.

Just seen people on Sky Blues Talk mention it too, reckon it’s a goer.

Governmac · Aug 4, 2024

shmmeee said:
Just seen people on Sky Blues Talk mention it too, reckon it’s a goer.

just need George on twitter to confirm it now.

Marty · Aug 4, 2024

2024/25 League 1 Champs? · Aug 4, 2024

I only heard of Man Utd () and Fulham’s interest but Fulham have just signed Smith Rowe so assume they don’t need Sheaf too….

Other than that I assume So’ton, Ipswich maybe? not a great move and definitely not a step up either way - unless of course it’s another case of money talks, which would be disappointing

I think it’s just a nasty rumour

Nuskyblue · Aug 4, 2024

2024/25 League 1 Champs? said:
I only heard of Man Utd () and Fulham’s interest but Fulham have just signed Smith Rowe so assume they don’t need Sheaf too….

Other than that I assume So’ton, Ipswich maybe? not a great move and definitely not a step up either way - unless of course it’s another case of money talks, which would be disappointing

I think it’s just a nasty rumour

Sheaf and Smith Rowe are very different players.

That's like comparing O'Hare with Sheaf.

skybluecam · Aug 4, 2024

We better have a replacement in within a week if he goes.

Would severely dampen some of my optimism for this season tbh

2024/25 League 1 Champs? · Aug 4, 2024

Nuskyblue said:
Sheaf and Smith Rowe are very different players.

That's like comparing O'Hare with Sheaf.

fair, although they both have some similar characteristics but also I wasn’t comparing directly - just assuming they may have decided they wanted a more direct midfielder

Viktor17 · Aug 4, 2024

Like last year, a disaster timing wise again. Ffs.

wingy · Aug 4, 2024

Marty said:
BHH

Is that your 19 yr old?

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