The coventrian
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So sisu themselves havent invested then have they? Why paint it up like they have?
Where did I say spend money we didn't have?
So sisu themselves havent invested then have they? Why paint it up like they have?Yes through player sales. What will make you happy? If we keep every player and spend money we don’t have?
Come on now,towthe line. Sisu are gonna fund a push back to the top flight.It's a perfectly legitimate way to run a club at our level and we're far from the only ones doing it. What is disingenuous though is to paint it as investment from the owners-if anything things have improved with the owners focussing on their legal blind alleys while leaving day to day management to Boddy and co. We are able to spend a % of what we bring in and we've brought in a lot from transfer fees. That's it.
We are living within our means as much as possible. Would you rather we ended up in £60m in debt like we were almost 20 years ago by spending when we couldn't afford to?So sisu themselves havent invested then have they? Why paint it up like they have?
Where did I say spend money we didn't have?
Forget Birmingham they fucked off at the Ricoh - the breakeven figure was 21k if we’d have average 25-26k before they fucked off we would just about be able to sustain the stupid original rentTurned up ? Where, Birmingham ?
So some City fans would flit between Coventry City and the laughing stock that is Cov Utd depending on level?
Considering Sheffield has two major clubs and Sheffield's population is not double Coventry's, I wonder how many supporters in Sheffield switch their allegiance based on which club is the most successful at any given time. It would be interesting to know how many supporters have staunch allegiance to one club or the other.
Do I say that? No I wouldn't. But let's not get investment from sisu confused with selling a player and putting some of that money back into the squad.We are living within our means as much as possible. Would you rather we ended up in £60m in debt like we were almost 20 years ago by spending when we couldn't afford to?
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Do I say that? No I wouldn't. But let's not get investment from sisu confused with selling a player and putting some of that money back into the squad.
Aren't they covering losses every year? What's that if not investment?So sisu themselves havent invested then have they? Why paint it up like they have?
Where did I say spend money we didn't have?
Aren't they covering losses every year? What's that if not investment?
So just to be clear, it’s “bare minimum” investment they are doing right now?They are doing the bare minimum while going all in on the legals.
Define 'investment'?Do I say that? No I wouldn't. But let's not get investment from sisu confused with selling a player and putting some of that money back into the squad.
So far what I understand investment to mean on this forum is:Define 'investment'?
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So just to be clear, it’s “bare minimum” investment they are doing right now?
what’s the “ideal” investment? Do you have a number or...?
Jesus christ,who are you? The sisu police?Define 'investment'?
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What losses? I thought we were breaking in even? And no that's not investment.Aren't they covering losses every year? What's that if not investment?
What losses? I thought we were breaking in even? And no that's not investment.
No.Jesus christ,who are you? The sisu police?
No.
Answer the question.
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It just feels nice for some sad people to have a big bad pantomime villain to point at for all things wrong in their life.The issue with people like this is that they don't really have a clue what they are angry about. They just listen to others and repeat certain words.
So can you help me understand what investment is then?What losses? I thought we were breaking in even? And no that's not investment.
Jesus christ,who are you? The sisu police?
Weren't we close to getting Wilder at one point?
So can you help me understand what investment is then?
Turnover not profit you wally. Just to be clear......Just to be clear, league rules don’t allow clubs to spend megabucks on players beyond a proportion of their turnover. So what Robins is able to spend is largely dictated not by SISU but by transfers and tickets. If we stay in Birmingham beyond this season that will drop considerably.
You understand that the playing budget goes into the calculation for what is required to break even don't you? So I really don't understand what you're even sayingPutting in funding above and beyond the minimum required to keep the club at break even.
Thank you very much for this. However I have never said that so I am not sure how relevant it is and feels a little out of place.The crux of the argument that SISU are 'backing Robins in the market' doesn't work.
Turnover. A % of what we turnover. Not "earn". You get that too right? I feel this may be beyond you..We spend a % of what we earn and we've earned a fair whack from transfers so we were able to spend a bit. It's not Joy suddenly deciding to dip into her wallet.
You understand that the playing budget goes into the calculation for what is required to break even don't you? So I really don't understand what you're even saying
Thank you very much for this. However I have never said that so I am not sure how relevant it is and feels a little out of place.
Turnover. A % of what we turnover. Not "earn". You get that too right? I feel this may be beyond you..
The most common line of argument about SISU’s ‘investment’ is about the money Robins has been able to spend on transfers. This would be because there has been no investment in off-field areas, for example a new ground which has been in the pipeline since 2013. Or how about a brand new training ground? Youth facilities? Nope. Those in charge of day to day running have a budget to work off and they do their best with it.
When we make losses it is tacked on to the considerable debt we owe them. Again, are all ‘investments’ held as charges over the club? Our income dictates what we spend. Not SISU.
We can play academic Top Trumps if you like but I think you might come out worse...
Is that correct?
What about the investment into the new facilities at Ryton or the academy?
Has that come from existing budgets or did SISU provide funding above and beyond those?
You are embarrassing yourself mate honestly.Has that come from existing budgets or did SISU provide funding above and beyond those?
Oh the poor guys not having unlimited spending! Having to work without a budget. Tough gig. You understand that budget is set by the owners and includes an amount put in by them which is required to break even?Those in charge of day to day running have a budget to work off and they do their best with it.
Oh the poor guys not having unlimited spending! Having to work without a budget. Tough gig. You understand that budget is set by the owners and includes an amount put in by them which is required to break even?
This is not going well for you
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