Shipley / Allen - do they have a future here ? (1 Viewer)

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Kilclines curly mullet

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #1

Not a Shipley/Allen abuse thread here but with limited playing time recently has Robins come to the conclusion that neither are good enough for the championship or is it simply that we have a better first 11 and they can’t break into it at present.

 

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JoshCCFC1987

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #2

Can’t see both being moved on as we don’t have the budget to replace both I’d imagine but I can certainly see one of them being let go

 

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Magwitch1

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #3

Why not ?

 

Tommo1993

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #4

Wouldn’t put them top of the list of players we should try and get rid of.

 

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cov donkey kick

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #5

Think if an offer comes in for both they'll be gone.

 

Ccfcisparks

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #6

Both will get good league 1 moves IMO and all the best to them, been good servants here.

 

the rumpo kid

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #7

Think they would both do well (back) at Burton under a good manager, Jimmy Floyd hasselbank.

 

CCFCBat

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #8

Yes we need to move them on


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rob9872

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #9

Yes I'm a little biased on this one but at 23 I think Shippers still has improvement in him. I don't think after this season we'd command a great fee and he's not among the higher earners so I'd keep him fir another season. If he can step to the level as he did after time in both L2 & L1, then he'd cost more to replace. We'll again be among the smaller budgets next season too. I like Jamie, but he's a bit older and has already tried at this level with Burton before so I can't see him staying if I'm honest, but again good to have around the place, no trouble to the manager and has proved he too has a goal in him at the level. I'd keep him, but suspect he'll want regular game time and will be off.

 

stupot07

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #10

No, time to move them on. Anyone who has not been good enough to really push for a starting berth this season needs to be moved on. (Obviously, excludes the kids).

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Kieranp96

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #11

No and no.

 

The Philosopher

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #12

Allen - time to move on. Not right for our formation, maybe a level too high for him

Shippers - seems to have gone off the rails but has a talent. Maybe a 6 month loan out could do him good.

 

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Deleted member 9744

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #13

Both have been disappointing this year. Not sure if it is lack of confidence or they are not up to the level.

I would keep Shipley as I think he has proved before that he can step up eventually. I would be inclined to let Allen go reluctantly. I thought he would do better at this level.

 

shmmeee

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #14

I think considering what we have in midfield and what we need in midfield there’s really no room in the squad for either. I’d move them both on to anyone who will have them, might get a bit for Shipley with a sell on, doubt you’d get much for Allen. Bring in AMs with more pace and quality.

 

Mr Panda

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #15

I think both will be gone if we can find them clubs, maybe Shipley on loan somewhere for the season to get him regular football again.

Our budget constraints surely should mean we can't afford to keep players around who aren't quite there in terms of stepping up to this level.

 

Sky Blue Pete

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #16

Ipswich wanted shipley and I’m sure Allen would find a league 1 club. I think they will be allowed to leave if an offer comes in.

 

higgs

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #17

Probably both good league one players championship is a different story

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cc84cov

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #18

Not good enough for the championship,physically miles off

 

fatso

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #19

Ideally I'd replace them both, but budget restrictions will almost certainly dictate things.

I just cant see the point in keeping players that arnt putting pressure on the first team.
So that's the likes of,
Allen, Shipley, Bakayoko, Kastaneer, Hilsner, Jobello, and Mason.
I havnt included Biamou as hes probably played enough games to earn himself another year, all be it as a fourth choice striker.

 

Samo

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #20

No. If we are realistic about competing, and with a heavy heart... No

 

Greggs

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #21

This is player abuse at it's finest. You should be utterly ashamed. People like you don't belong in modern society.

 

Samo

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #22

Greggs said:

This is player abuse at it's finest. You should be utterly ashamed. People like you don't belong in modern society.

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I think people who make statements like ''People like you don't belong in modern society'' probably don't belong in modern society. Whatever the fuck that means.

 

AFCCOVENTRY

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #23

Robins just doesn’t use Shipley now even as a sub. I think the writing is on the wall that this league too much of a stretch for him. Allen as well will be off the payroll.

Reality is we have to keep progressing and this summer will be one of the most important squad building exercises to push us to an established Champ side.

 

Greggs

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #24

Samo said:

I think people who make statements like ''People like you don't belong in modern society'' probably don't belong in modern society. Whatever the fuck that means.

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I think people who are offended by everything and feel the need to bite at obvious sarcastic comments - they don't belong in modern society either. But I hope you feel better for getting involved

 

Liquid Gold

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #25

I think the question should be what can we get for them.

Would either bring in over £100k?

 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #26

Some of Shipley's performances this season have been an utter disgrace. How anyone could want him here next season is baffling.

I really do appreciate his service to the club in the past though, and in the lower leagues he proved a decent asset. Not sure it is just the step up this season, he's looked like his head hasn't been on it.

I think Allen has something more about him, but if we want to kick on, I wouldn't retain either.

 

ms639

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #27

Get rid on both fronts!


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Marty

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• Apr 20, 2021

• #28

Definitely not, Shipley is bang average league one, and Allen is better but league one is his limit. Should have tried to freshen up that position last season.

 

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skysblue

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• Apr 21, 2021

• #29

No gone past there level
But good luck to them

 

covcity4life

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• Apr 21, 2021

• #30

Nope

Ship Shipley out

Thank you for everything but we are level above what you can offer now

 

larry_david

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• Apr 21, 2021

• #31

Shipley needs to sort his fitness out. He's been found out big time or, he's let his fitness go to pot. Either way as someone said he doesn't even get a look in last 5 mins now.

 

stevefloyd

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• Apr 21, 2021

• #32

Allen- battles well but is quite slow and easily gets knocked off the ball is capable of the odd goal but well down the pecking order, we need players who can either force their way for a start or make an impact from the bench, sadly this isn't the case as he has shown...who in the current squad would you play him in front of?

Shipley- can pick some brilliant passes at times and can score goals but lacks concentration and on numerous occasions has done something really well only to pass the ball straight to the opposition, doesn't tackle and on a few occasions loses the ball and just ambles back instead of trying to correct a wrong, yes he is 'one of our own ' but seems to be struggling to come to terms with this league I think its time for him to move on because we cannot carry any players and we need better quality now