Moff
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Or perhaps it was because Mowbray was so shit last year, this year is such a refreshing change?
Is that deflection?
Apparently we should be praising SISU for it else we are deflecting from them.
thank you
nick knows deep down too but he will keep arguing till everyone gets bored of him or someone changes subject. at least torch will like his posts so he can leave with his head held high after yet another forum victory lmao
thank you
nick knows deep down too but he will keep arguing till everyone gets bored of him or someone changes subject. at least torch will like his posts so he can leave with his head held high after yet another forum victory lmao
Or perhaps it was because Mowbray was so shit last year, this year is such a refreshing change?
Is that deflection?
Only caveat is that it seems like it was MR, like TM tried before him, that persuaded SISU they needed a recruitment overhaul- I'd every surprised if the decision came from them- they don't know their Darius Vassell's from their Van Basten's.
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its a part of it i agree.
if you think its the sole reason i would say it is either a)idiocy or b)bias
Oh FFS. Of course I know its not the sole reason. Mowbray was shit last year, his recruitment was utter wank. Of course I know he had little to play with because of SISU but with what he had he was shit.
Only caveat is that it seems like it was MR, like TM tried before him, that persuaded SISU they needed a recruitment overhaul- I'd every surprised if the decision came from them- they don't know their Darius Vassell's from their Van Basten's.
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so basically you are saying you agree with me.
seems everyone is agreeing with me yet still finding ways to say they dont.
strange.
If agreeing with you is saying everyone was shit. Then yes.
I didn't say I didn't agree, I just said Mowbray was wank, and you stepped in to defend him. Strange.
so basically you are saying you agree with me.
seems everyone is agreeing with me yet still finding ways to say they dont.
strange.
Circular argument I'm bored of it can we find something more fun to argue about...
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Or the fact you are trying to praise SISU and other people aren't as that's what you are strangely arguing.
Yes, recruitment is affected if SISU suddenly want to gift the club millions but they haven't. Both MR and TM are given a budget, it's how they manage that.
Nobody is deflecting anything from SISU, it is you deflecting from Mowbray again.
You will get soon get used to it, everything is deflecting from SISU even when you are saying they don't deserve praise
still chatting shit?
because i think recruitment success and failure is down to structure and management that can be seen 2 way
1)praising sisu for making changes
2)blaming sisu for having a broken system in first place
in truth its a bit of both
for you its option 3)everything was always fine from sisus end, its managers fault when things go wrong.
you keep coming back with silly shit about praising sisu, you cannot escape option 3.
“We’ve bought Tommy in to be the cornerstone of a new recruitment process,” City chairman Tim Fisher told the club’s website.
“As a club, we have identified player recruitment as a weakness, and want to put a robust structure in place to ensure we address this shortfall.
“Tommy brings a healthy amount of knowledge and experience, and will be leading a team of scouts to ensure we source players who are right for this football club.”
Mark Robins said: “Tommy has come on board as part of the club’s need to develop a strategic recruitment department, which will be taking shape over the coming weeks.
“This appointment is the first step in that process, and I’m pleased to have the experience of Tommy to lead the department.”
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but sisu havnt admitted anything? sisu wont care about our scouting apparently.
“We’ve bought Tommy in to be the cornerstone of a new recruitment process,” City chairman Tim Fisher told the club’s website.
“As a club, we have identified player recruitment as a weakness, and want to put a robust structure in place to ensure we address this shortfall.
“Tommy brings a healthy amount of knowledge and experience, and will be leading a team of scouts to ensure we source players who are right for this football club.”
Mark Robins said: “Tommy has come on board as part of the club’s need to develop a strategic recruitment department, which will be taking shape over the coming weeks.
“This appointment is the first step in that process, and I’m pleased to have the experience of Tommy to lead the department.”
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but sisu havnt admitted anything? sisu wont care about our scouting apparently.
To me this looks like an admission that MR wants to restructure recruitment with his man Widdrington and we're gunna let him do it- as opposed to 'SISU want to sort the recruitment problem and MR agrees'
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Carries on like this we are going to be the best prepared for a season I can remember in a good 20 years.
To me this looks like an admission that MR wants to restructure recruitment with his man Widdrington and we're gunna let him do it- as opposed to 'SISU want to sort the recruitment problem and MR agrees'
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tim fisher is sisu man in charge of ccfc? he has admitted recruitment is a weakness? he has hired someone with aide of MR to help in this matter? yes or no?
things have got better? yes or no?
have i blamed mowbray multiple times? yes! so is this me protecting mowbray no?
did nick say sisu havnt admitted anything? yes, did they? yes!
did nick say sisu dont care about scouting? yes, did tim fisher just say scouting is a weakness? yes!
changed have been made both structurly and manager wise. hence the improvement.
consider yourself schooled muthafckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
nicks response:
"you love mowbray,you dont blame mowbray,you praise sisu and say i deflect but i dont deflect at all......mowbray...MOWBRAY"
are you seriously not counting tim fisher as sisu?
oh god you are going to talk about how hes employed by ccfc not sisu now or something aint you?!
The flaw in your whole argument is that you fail to see Fisher is CCFC chairman who is employed by sisu. Some decisions he will have to consult sisu on, others he won't. Accepting Robins request that Widdrington be brought in is clearly a decision made as CCFC chairman and nothing at all to do with sisu, in fact they would neither understand or be interested in such a footballing decision.tim fisher is sisu man in charge of ccfc? he has admitted recruitment is a weakness? he has hired someone with aide of MR to help in this matter? yes or no?
things have got better? yes or no?
have i blamed mowbray multiple times? yes! so is this me protecting mowbray no?
did nick say sisu havnt admitted anything? yes, did they? yes!
did nick say sisu dont care about scouting? yes, did tim fisher just say scouting is a weakness? yes!
changed have been made both structurly and manager wise. hence the improvement.
consider yourself schooled muthafckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
nicks response:
"you love mowbray,you dont blame mowbray,you praise sisu and say i deflect but i dont deflect at all......mowbray...MOWBRAY"
The flaw in your whole argument is that you fail to see Fisher is CCFC chairman who is employed by sisu. Some decisions he will have to consult sisu on, others he won't. Accepting Robins request that Widdrington be brought in is clearly a decision made as CCFC chairman and nothing at all to do with sisu, in fact they would neither understand or be interested in such a footballing decision.
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give it up nick it isnt working! you keep trying to turn this into ccfc4life gives sisu praise and i dont so that shows nick is not a sisu stooge everybody, look everybody!
so transparent
remember option 3 buddy. you dont think there is or has ever been anything wrong with recruitment at the club despite past managers(pressley,mowbray,robins) and tf himself saying scouting a big big problem.
so you can say you are not giving praise to sisu but in reality you are saying they are running club well recruitment wise and no mistakes made and its all down to manager wether we succeed or fail.
option 3 wwoooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh
The flaw in your whole argument is that you fail to see Fisher is CCFC chairman who is employed by sisu. Some decisions he will have to consult sisu on, others he won't. Accepting Robins request that Widdrington be brought in is clearly a decision made as CCFC chairman and nothing at all to do with sisu, in fact they would neither understand or be interested in such a footballing decision.
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Where have I said there has never been an issue with recruitment? I haven't said they are running the club well, I have said that SISU won't be making a massive U turn and suddenly caring about recruitment.
SISU are / were shit. This doesn't change anything because Robins and Widdrington are doing something better, it didn't change it because we got to wembley, it doesn't change it if the academy win the league.
Oh 'the warming card' because someone has clinically shone a bright light on the flaw in your argument? I'd leave it be now if I were you, it's beginning to make you look rather sillyfunny how me and steve82 had this debate on page 2 and managed to agree and put it to bed within 2 posts. so if im not the issue that only leaves wumming nick....
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