funny how me and steve82 had this debate on page 2 and managed to agree and put it to bed within 2 posts. so if im not the issue that only leaves wumming nick....
maybe steve's the issue
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SISU are / were shit. AGREE
This doesn't change anything because Robins and Widdrington are doing something better-THEY HIRED BOTH,forget the praise aspect,i am just saying things have changed since last year and not just manager.
it didn't change it because we got to wembley YET IN ANOTHER THREAD YOU LIKED SOMEONE POST WHO SAID CHECKATRADE MONEY USED THIS YEAR, once again forget praise but this is another change from last summer
it doesn't change it if the academy win the league-AGREE CONSIDERING THE TURMOIL
what i hope my above post points out is that there has been alot of change since last summer, and sisu or ccfc (whichever you want to call it) higher ups have contributed to the change in 1 way or the other,
thus our excellent start to 2017 summer is not solely down to a manager change. that is my only point! no protecting mowbray and no huge praise of sisu in sight.
if you re being brutually honest you agree with me,you simply didnt like my jab about you deflecting blame from sisu.
Abswer the point at habd rather than keeptrying to di a springers fibal moment to sum up each post
Do you agree that changes has been made by the club that could affect recruitment? E.g new scouts.new head of receuitment. Checmatrade mkney.
So lots of factors have changed and not just the manager? And thats not absolving tm of any blame as he hired and trusted venus to make big changes.
But Agree circumstances are not exactly same as last summer?
Omg hes donw it again lmao telling everyone whwt other other poster meant. Odd that few pages back it was about deflection of sis and now its about mowbray. Like i sais no conviction in anything! Just contradiction.
Do you agree with many factors have changed regarsing sunmer recruitment from last year other thsn just the mansger?
Do u agree yes or no.
You are still deflecting. U r hiding behind sisi being joy and not fisher. Well to me fisher is sisu and always will be. The club is self contained and adridt in a break even system becausw of sisu. So when oir tecruitment structite is fucked its becauwe of them
But to u the steuctites fine despite what every manager says and its all down to the manager wether we succeed or fail
Do u admit the above? Yes or no. Clme on lets gey to bottom of this one nick. Everyones bored. Yes or no plz
I don't think this is really a 'SISU' thing, this is Robins pulling his finger out and doing his job which highlights TM and MV's inept recruitment policy. It can't be that difficult since none of these players cost any more than Reid, Foley, Clarke etc yet here we all are (myself included) getting semi-ons about the lads MR is bringing in.
Exactly, it's more that he seems to actually have a plan and a list of what he needs.
He's obviously identified targets within weeks of being here, spoken to clubs, got them done no nonsense... the club are not 'funding' this in a different or new way, or from al alternative income (e.g. Checkatrade) - we make this many signings every year.
Difference is is that they've already been identified instead of poking around PL released lists for any duffers who fancy a kick about.
we just need wasps and CCC to be blamed for something on this thread and....
sky blue talk bingo
My point has been agreed with steve moff and northernskyblue
Only yoi dispute it. Wake up you are the wum
Its like thr ending of sixth sense. Poor guy you dont even know you are one.
Seems to me people are over complicating things. When Mowbray came in one of the things we praised was he insisted on total control of everything to do with the football side of things. Clearly something went very wrong with the recruitment last summer, on the face of it given what Mowbray said we aimed too high and were left scrapping around to get a squad together.
This year is the total opposite. Robins has clearly come in with a plan and with realistic targets.
That's the point... He does mate
Clearly something went very wrong with the recruitment last summer, on the face of it given what Mowbray said we aimed too high and were left scrapping around to get a squad together.' the change seemed to be when MV was promoted to the board, from that point on Mowbray didn't have total control of recruitmentSeems to me people are over complicating things. When Mowbray came in one of the things we praised was he insisted on total control of everything to do with the football side of things. Clearly something went very wrong with the recruitment last summer, on the face of it given what Mowbray said we aimed too high and were left scrapping around to get a squad together.
This year is the total opposite. Robins has clearly come in with a plan and with realistic targets.
still peddling the same shit about praising sisu trying to DEFLECT from fact that saying structure has nothing to do with it pretends that everything but the manager has been fine.
you cannot escape option 3!!!!!!!!!!
yes i have mentioned this a couple of times, every signing is greeted with just what we need etc even thought we have not seen them playpeople are also assuming that early signings are good signings
now where's that thread praising Slade for a lot of early signings when he joined
Not sure you have read all of the points have you? We are comparing this season to last where sisu have been shit in both. There is no deflection.
It's really simple.
Read the thread back to see where you got a bit upset.
are you still counting sisu as joy? i have redefined it for you many times since, its almost like you ignore it because it renders your argument useless
ccfc higher ups have changed things around, this summer is very different to last int erms of scouts,HOR,manager, questions over budget,checkatrade potential
so cannot put it solely on a change of manager i say again.
once again saying upset makes no sense as i have blamed mowbray numerous times for his part in recruitment. saying you are upset just shows that deep down you are seething right now. and whilst i am proud i have that effect on someone other than my wife i am telling you to snap out of it. not healthy.
Even Fisher isn't doing this, control will be with Robins. As it was with Mowbray when he drafted in Venus to help him with transfers.
It is far from seething to point out where you jumped into the thread, read it back and see where you started.
Robins coming in has showed planning and structure and that he has seen what we needed and is recruiting there. Last year we kept bringing in wingers on trial when we needed defenders.
Carries on like this we are going to be the best prepared for a season I can remember in a good 20 years.
Very inexperienced tho only really 60/70 odd games in all competitions with Dagenham, Barnet and Portsmouth.
Still it's MR's team and his choice let's hope he's s commanding type. At 6'4" surely can claim a cross!
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Scary, isn't it.
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Or, maybe Mowbray was just a crappy manager?<snip>When Mowbray came in one of the things we praised was he insisted on total control of everything to do with the football side of things. Clearly something went very wrong with the recruitment last summer, on the face of it given what Mowbray said we aimed too high and were left scrapping around to get a squad together.
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People will still find reasons to argue though
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