ccfcway
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and as the pipes are connected to the mains, sewage is in the bath and without a proper clean up of the mess, we'll always be in the sh1t
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Because we've been downsized so much that it's almost impossible to not achieve relative success. It's the equivalent of drowning in the bath and then thinking you've learned to swim when in reality all the water has drained out.
No Nick, they were on short term contracts due to budget restriction and therefore the dregs.
He was not backed, financial implications for future years were not permitted so his choice was very poor.
I want success but hell I'm not stopping the fight.I want success and I'm fed up of 'fighting' them.
Or Fisher never did anything and no one else did till Boddy came along. There was a big gap between Anderson leaving and Boddy coming in.It all seems to of coincided with David Boddy coming in, I think he's pulling a lot of the strings and making the offers etc. It's also a bonus because (touch wood) it means that we haven't heard from a certain wet fish(er) this season!
SISU have not changed or turned any corner - they have simply stayed quiet, kept out of focus, have let people focus on the feel good factor of the team doing better. We do not know what is actually going on behind the scenes.
My dad's the same and I started the thread, but this isn't about the history, we all know that and it's been done to death and it's how we move forward. They've not killed anyone or committed any crime, I bet most who are angry supported Marlon or other criminals who have played for us, but given the opportunity of redemption.
I feel like I'm supporting SISU here and that's certainly not the intention I was one of the strongest voices, refused to go to Northampton and still not forgiven many things, but I want to see a fuller Ricoh, I want promotion, I want success and I'm fed up of 'fighting' them. It's clear they'll only go on their terms if the past 10 years hasn't moved them on, so if it needs a line in the sand then we have to back it too - if the IRA and DUP managed to form a truce then surely there's some common ground we can find. Doesn't mean we have to like each other but for the good of future of the club.
We have decent people at the club, thats for sure. But the fact is they want you to buy a season ticket without anyone knowing what league we are in. Lack of respect for the fans.
Also, they loan us money each season, fir which they charge interest on. And then there is the yearly 'where will we be playing next year' saga.
So no.
No. They took the last season my Grandad would’ve had as a season ticket holder away from him. After 3 quarters of a century of support they moved his club 34 miles and killed off the passion he had for it. After the club returned he went to a couple of games but that was it. He didn’t want to go any more. I can never forgive them for that. The worst thing about what I’ve written is I can almost guarantee others on this forum can tell a similar story about their Grandad, Uncle, Dad, Brother, cousin or friend.
Except in reality the games of football especially at the Ricoh have often been dreadful to watch.............and that's mainly due to the opposition putting 11 men behind the ball, time wasting from the off, faking injuries............oh and bringing about a skateboard of fans in an end that holds 7000 +........and for that the casual supporter has been expected to find about £50-£54 per couple to get a good seat.have bought Season tickets for me and the wife - started in 88 WTF its been a downhill slog still been pretty good this season - can't do politics i have enough of my own to deal with but i like a game of football as i think most of us do
You could well be right and yes some ( many over the years) have been poor but i like to take my mind off things at work - we did follow to Northampton ( dont judge ) and some games there were real entertainment and this season we have seen some of that sparkle and more - i am an eternal optimist and never go into a match with a less than a positive attitude about winning - over the games that bubble can be burst over the 90 but i always start at he same point !Except in reality the games of football especially at the Ricoh have often been dreadful to watch.............and that's mainly due to the opposition putting 11 men behind the ball, time wasting from the off, faking injuries............oh and bringing about a skateboard of fans in an end that holds 7000 +........and for that the casual supporter has been expected to find about £50-£54 per couple to get a good seat.
Not from me they wontWait till we fail to make the play offs in a couple of weeks. The SISU protests will be back..
Or accept that it's time to move on and walk awayThere comes a point when you have to accept (not like, accept) what it is. SISU show no signs of going, and it's clear that we as fans have little-to-no say in the matter. Imho - for what it's worth - I say it's about time we as supporters move away from the politics as much as we can and focus on the players / team.
Yep, my daughters rarely went back and then lost interest after that Northampton travesty.
But people don't move on. they just keep coming on here moaning.Or accept that it's time to move on and walk away
But people don't move on. they just keep coming on here moaning.
I chose JulianD's approach; don't like it but put up with it and support the club.
If I move on and walk away, I will do just that and not keep coming back on here point scoring when anything else goes wrong
For that to be true they would have to be walking away and using a competitor instead. Doubt that’s happening in the majority of cases. For most it’s an emotional decision that goes way beyond a disgruntled customer changing providers.Those who have just walked away in many respects play up to the modern football ideology that fans are just customers, which disables many of the arguments they put forward against SISU.
For that to be true they would have to be walking away and using a competitor instead. Doubt that’s happening in the majority of cases. For most it’s an emotional decision that goes way beyond a disgruntled customer changing providers.
To be honest I'm not not going because of Sisu or any sort of misplaced pride or any of that nonsense. I'm just out of the habit. A couple of us were talking about starting it up again next year. It's just talk at the moment but I'd love it to be fair. I'm sure the wife would understand.
And I'll be taking my son up in a few years anyway.
You think people are giving up supporting a club they love because they have a new love in their life of DIY? Yeah OK.Well it does as competitors include a trip to the local DIY
Never agreed with boycotts (although have ended up unwittingly doing one by not going very much. Not alone in that mind) and any boycott is overstated if you look at the figures, which tend to show our gates have declined naturally as we've got worse. All a concerted boycott emphasises is that people can't be bothered, and that's not the signal I suspect that people actually boycotting would want to send out.Those who have just walked away in many respects play up to the modern football ideology that fans are just customers, which disables many of the arguments they put forward against SISU.
That said. I agree with the basic premise of the club living within its means, especially rather than being further indebted to SISU. They should just be ignored and the fans should show willingness to help their club rather than the counter productive boycotts.
On a base level, it's arguably our 'best' season since the first season out the top flight (let's hope we don't plunge away like we did then!) But yes, of course it's ludicrous that top six in this division is better than midtable in the championship. Another argument I'm bored of making is people bemoaning our lack of success over the years. Many of us have been blessed to watch our team fighting and competing well in the top flight over and over again. That's success. If we want a consistent success, we can always cheer on another couple of relegations until we're beating Rugby Town!I'm amazed at people (like one of my oldest mates, so not new to supporting City) who think this is one of our "most successful season" in decades. Of course, if you keep going lower you will be more competitive, at least initially.
But people don't move on.
You think people are giving up supporting a club they love because they have a new love in their life of DIY? Yeah OK.
thousands have.
Yeah it's what Northampton did to me too. And it's a hard sell L2, not really the thing to re-ignite the most pissed-upon flames ever is it?
I'm amazed at people (like one of my oldest mates, so not new to supporting City) who think this is one of our "most successful season" in decades. Of course, if you keep going lower you will be more competitive, at least initially. But a more realistic view is that wherever we finish, it will be our lowest league position in decades! The real worry is that if we don't buck the trend now, we might struggle in this league in a few years too, and we're never going to entice fans back. We MUST win the playoffs!
By the number of posts on this site nowadays looks like a lot haveBut people don't move on. they just keep coming on here moaning.
I chose JulianD's approach; don't like it but put up with it and support the club.
If I move on and walk away, I will do just that and not keep coming back on here point scoring when anything else goes wrong
I think one season of potential stability isn’t enough to state whether they have turned a corner or not. The communication is still poor, there are better attempts to attract people with ticket offers etc but they just realise that they need people at the ground.My dad's the same and I started the thread, but this isn't about the history, we all know that and it's been done to death and it's how we move forward. They've not killed anyone or committed any crime, I bet most who are angry supported Marlon or other criminals who have played for us, but given the opportunity of redemption.
I feel like I'm supporting SISU here and that's certainly not the intention I was one of the strongest voices, refused to go to Northampton and still not forgiven many things, but I want to see a fuller Ricoh, I want promotion, I want success and I'm fed up of 'fighting' them. It's clear they'll only go on their terms if the past 10 years hasn't moved them on, so if it needs a line in the sand then we have to back it too - if the IRA and DUP managed to form a truce then surely there's some common ground we can find. Doesn't mean we have to like each other but for the good of future of the club.
Well they aren’t giving up for morality as the checkatrade proved
Well I'm somebody's grandad and I did go to Sixfields for that very reason. I knew that if i stopped going I might not return. I don't know how many more seasons I'll be fit enough to go so I will not sit around waiting for SISU to go however much I despise what they have done.
Bottom line though is we still have a club to support.
What's the emotional part of it? For me the owners are an irrelevance. They have no impact on my emotions. The way the team performs on the pitch to, but my emotional link with the team overrides any desire to walk away. I see doing that as bit of a cop out really.For that to be true they would have to be walking away and using a competitor instead. Doubt that’s happening in the majority of cases. For most it’s an emotional decision that goes way beyond a disgruntled customer changing providers.
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