is this yet another idiot who believes if sisu pull out and we go into admin that cov will be better off?
I dont like how sisu conducted themselves with hoffman,but im still grateful they are keeping us afloat each month
The thing I see is we are just getting more into debt with this lot. Take for example the finances we have already took a loan out against next years season tickets. This is just to stay afloat so once Xmas comes along and we run out of money what happens we either sell or ppl dont get paid. We have more board members than ever from all over the world and they don't care about the club just fiddling the books.
The thing I see is we are just getting more into debt with this lot. Take for example the finances we have already took a loan out against next years season tickets. This is just to stay afloat so once Xmas comes along and we run out of money what happens we either sell or ppl dont get paid. We have more board members than ever from all over the world and they don't care about the club just fiddling the books.
Are we better off though since 2007?
In 2007 average gate at the ricoh was almost 20,000 this season so far its 15,000. Big difference.
Players. The squad in 2007 was overall better then the squad now.
Financial position – Might be slightly better off but we have no assets.
Stats dont lie and since SISU have been in control we have lost 5,000 fans.
Stats don't lie, but there is a lot less money around to be spent since 2007. The economy went tits up since. Lots of people lost their jobs, work less hours, no pay rises and more, but the cost of living keeps going up. This is another thing that went against SISU.
I don't like SISU because the club is all doom and gloom these days. They just seem to lie to the fans. Don't even make money off our best players. We lost 3 of our best players in the summer and got £0 for them. I do know my history and during BR era at least there was good players come in and we wasn't struggling in the championship with a small squad and no good players to sell.
Please explain why your defending SISU?
I don't like SISU because the club is all doom and gloom these days. They just seem to lie to the fans. Don't even make money off our best players. We lost 3 of our best players in the summer and got £0 for them. I do know my history and during BR era at least there was good players come in and we wasn't struggling in the championship with a small squad and no good players to sell.
Please explain why your defending SISU?
Trouble with that is there is no credible alternative - more of the same tired "investment" schemes that saddle us with as much debt is not a good option in my opinion, (that was essentially GH's plan)
But if you look at most teams. Average attendance is higher. Agree the football may not be the best but SISU have pushed fans away, i know a few who won’t go back until SISU leave.
I trhink the Leicester game showed this. Opening day of the season against our local rivals and we only get 19,000 and this included 5,500 inbreds.
Unless a sugar daddy came along and wanted us to be the next Man City or Chelsea, surely an investment scheme is all we can hope for?
depends how the money put in GSS. If it is put in as loans then debt remains but if put in as share capital then the balance sheet is viewed as stronger, stronger balance sheet gives us a better credit rating, could lead to shares being offered to fans, a whole better feel to the club..... to name but a few things
If new owners are really that confident about our future why not put the money in so that it is best for the club not in a way that allows the"investor" to cut and run and perhaps charge interest. So far "investment" seems to me to have been made in a way to protect the investors - when lets be honest most people who invest in clubs dont expect to get money back. If they dont expect to get money back then lock money into the club as a proper investment (shares - which can only be cashed in on a sale) rather than a loan (which can be called in at any time and can cost interest making losses worse - and shows as a liability on the balance sheet) .
But it only works if they buy into proper financial control and living within their means
I have a problem with this blind faith in Hoffman as the white knight who will cure City's problems for ever - seems to me that this bears a strong resemblance to the blind faith that Dhinsa would lead us to the promised land. And we all know where that went!
I don't like SISU because the club is all doom and gloom these days. They just seem to lie to the fans. Don't even make money off our best players. We lost 3 of our best players in the summer and got £0 for them. I do know my history and during BR era at least there was good players come in and we wasn't struggling in the championship with a small squad and no good players to sell.
Please explain why your defending SISU?
so whilst all this mayhem continues where is orange ken ? he normally does all the statements but now they come from paul clouting ? is there anyway to see if he is still the chairman ? or just topping up his tan :jerkit::jerkit:
Ok if SISU are the great people that are keeping the club afloat why are they causing so much anger in the stands we can't afford to buy a 350k player. We sold more than we brought in our squad is small mainly full of 18 year olds we ain't man u and we don't have the youth quality as them. All I seem to see off them is lies they don't want to help the club and it would be better if they left. Yes ok BR era we did lose lots of money but the word administration kicked in once we had gone down.
So these people who won't go back unless SISU leave - they won't go to a play-off game if we ever reach them with SISU in charge? That's not the reason they aren't going believe me.
In 2007, we still had the 'RICOH effect'. There was the novelty of a new stadium back then which is wearing off now. I'm pretty sure our attendances now are no lower than they were at HR, though I'll admit I haven't checked that.
Understand the frustration ....... think nearly everyone that is a CCFC fan understands that. Right now there is no credible alternative so short of putting the club into administration (which really would be a disaster for everyone) how do you expect them to leave?
Didnt buy one at £350k no but did at £400K. Sold Ben Turner the rest were out of contract, brought 3 players in. Seems to me that you think we have a right to top players simply because we are CCFC - think you need to come to terms with the fact that under any owner we are likely to get there is unlikely to be much money around. Reliance on our youth is going to be around for seasons to come. We do not have the money !!
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