'SISU OUT' t-shirts (1 Viewer)

CovKingChris · Sep 16, 2011

We're just trying to see how many we need to make. We'll sell them for £3 each and so sizes small, medium, large and possibly extra large (XL would cost a bit more).

Follow this link to the facebook page and do what it says on the status.

ccfctommy · Sep 16, 2011

Again it's a bit pointless isn't it? There's no one who has yet put in a good offer in for the club.

We're stuck with SISU, and they won't sell the club unless it made financial sence.

brinner · Sep 16, 2011

what they gona look like??

i should be able to sell plenty, was gona get some done myself but gone and spent me money on a new car

CovKingChris · Sep 16, 2011

ccfctommy said:
Again it's a bit pointless isn't it? There's no one who has yet put in a good offer in for the club.

We're stuck with SISU, and they won't sell the club unless it made financial sence.

Well, some people want them so we want to give them what they want!

what they gona look like??

i should be able to sell plenty, was gona get some done myself but gone and spent me money on a new car

They're just going to be white t-shirts or sky blue t-shirts with "SISU OUT" on them or "GET SISU OUT".

Gaz · Sep 16, 2011

The t-shirts are a good idea I think.

Anything the fans can do to put more pressure on Sisu to pack up and leave can only be a good thing really.

The shirts should remind them that many Cov fans are unhappy with them and that next time a good bid comes in to buy the club they shouldn't sabotage it.

Make mine a large

brinner · Sep 16, 2011

just sisu out would be best i rekon

or love city in sky blue with hate sisu underneath in red.

i will even buy an extra 1 and send it to sisu hq!

Pigeon · Sep 16, 2011

Have you thought about selling them around the pubs on the way to the game for those not on FB? I'm sure you'd make a killing on them as people start to discuss goings on within the clubs.

skybluesteve76 · Sep 16, 2011

Rich already tried this and no one was interested! In fact, I'm still waiting for mine

PVA · Sep 16, 2011

T shirts will definitely be the straw that broke the camels back. I can see SISU running away like a bunch of girls at the sight of a few t shirts!

CovKingChris · Sep 16, 2011

Pigeon said:
Have you thought about selling them around the pubs on the way to the game for those not on FB? I'm sure you'd make a killing on them as people start to discuss goings on within the clubs.

Someone has talked to us about buying 100 off of us at a discounted price to sell at a pub before the game.

The t-shirts are a good idea I think.

Anything the fans can do to put more pressure on Sisu to pack up and leave can only be a good thing really.

The shirts should remind them that many Cov fans are unhappy with them and that next time a good bid comes in to buy the club they shouldn't sabotage it.

Make mine a large

Can you follow the link on to the facebook page please because then we can make the order by contacting you in a private message over fbook.

T shirts will definitely be the straw that broke the camels back. I can see SISU running away like a bunch of girls at the sight of a few t shirts!

No need for sarcasm PVA. We're just giving the people what they want!

PVA · Sep 16, 2011

Yeah sorry I wasn't meaning to have a go.

Just don't see how T Shirts will make a difference. If people think it will then fair play and good luck to them.

howzer · Sep 17, 2011

Pva the point of the T-Shirt is you can take it off and hold it up. as a banner. if the thought police come to you ... simply put the t-shirt back on, the police and the stewards can not legally remove your clothing unless it states remarks on them which are offensive or abusive. its just a way of getting the message adross without fueling a oversealous reaction by security and police. One thing i would do though is inform the club and the police that these t-shirts stating SISU OUT will be worn. The club can then object if they want to or even try to ban them, if this happens guys a very quick application to the county court, costing either 0 or upto 160 quid can be made for an injunction forcing the club not to ban the t-shirts. The human rights act gives freedom of expression, the law in this land gives the right to freedom to protest peacefully, even inside private property. I will providethe rights of protesters below in the hope the main organisers will see it.

howzer · Sep 17, 2011

Other Police Powers to Restrict Right to Protest

[FONT=Georgia, Times, Serif]In addition to the public order powers that the police have to control processions and assemblies, the police have a broad range of powers to control crowds and members of the public that can be used to restrict protest.

Powers to Stop and Search

The police do not have a general power to stop and search members of the public. All their powers to stop and search derive from various statutes. So when they stop and search a protester they must always specify on what grounds they are conducting the search. (for more information on your rights when being searched see Police Powers to Stop and Search Persons and Vehicles)).

However, there is a very wide range of legislation that grants stop and search powers. Most of them can only be exercised where the officer has ‘reasonable suspicion’. This includes the power to search a person for illegal drugs under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 and the power to search for stolen or prohibited items under PACE. But recent legislation has granted the police power to stop and search members of the public without having to show reasonable suspicion. These powers, which have been used extensively on demonstrators, derive from Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994.

Section 44 of the Terrorism Act 2000 allows the Chief Constable to designate an area within which individuals may stop and search a vehicle, driver, passenger, pedestrian and anything carried by a pedestrian for the purpose of searching for articles which could be used in connection with terrorism. There need not be any grounds for suspecting the presence of such articles. Failure to stop and/or obstructing a police constable acting under section 44 is a criminal offence. Currently, the whole of greater London has been designated as such an area under s44.

Under Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994, a police officer of the rank of inspector or above may issue a written authorisation for additional search powers on the basis of a reasonable belief that incidents involving serious violence may take place or that people are carrying dangerous instruments or offensive weapons in the area without good reason. The powers relate to pedestrians and vehicles in a specified locality, for a specified period, not exceeding 48 hours at a time.

Where an authorisation has been issued, any constable in uniform may stop and search any pedestrian or anything carried by the pedestrian, or any vehicle or anyone in it, for offensive weapons and dangerous instruments and may seize any such items which are found. In addition, the police may require you to remove any item which they reasonably believe you are wearing wholly or mainly for the purpose of concealing your identity. Again, the police do not need to have reasonable suspicion that the person is in fact carrying offensive weapons before stopping and searching under these powers.

Powers to Prevent a Breach of the Peace

A breach of the peace is not in itself a criminal offence, but a police officer or any other person have a power of arrest where there are reasonable grounds for believing a breach of the peace is taking place or is imminent. For a breach of the peace to occour, there must be an act done or threatened which harms a person, or his property in his presence, or which puts a person in fear of such harm. Something which merely distresses or offends someone will not normally amount to a breach of the peace.

A recent case (R (Laporte) v Chief Constable of Gloucestershire Constabulary) has helped to clarify when and how the police may exercise their powers in relation to breaches of the peaces in the context of protests. In this case, police officers stopped a coach that was carrying demonstrators and traveling to a demonstration from London. The officers concluded that some (although not necessarily all) of the passengers intended to cause a breach of the peace and ordered the passengers to return to London. The coach was escorted back to London and the passengers were prevented from leaving the coaches until they had reached London (a journey of 2 ½ hours). The Court of Appeal held that the police might have been entitled to stop the protesters and to prevent them from continuing to the demonstration if they had reasonable grounds for believing that this was necessary to prevent an imminent breach of the peace. However, they were not entitled to detain the protestors in the coach and to force the coach back to London. This was a disproportionate interference with the protesters' right to liberty.

Powers to Prevent Anti-Social Behaviour

ASBOs

An ASBO (Anti-social behaviour orders) can ban an individual from specific activities or from entering particular areas. The only criteria that the magistrate must use in deciding to impose an ASBO is that the individual has behaved in a manner ȁc;that caused or was likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress". If an ASBO is imposed and, breaching it is a criminal offence.

So far no ASBOs have been imposed on peaceful protesters and in a recent case where an ASBO was applied for against a peace protester, the Judge held that it was not appropriate to impose it as the law clearly intended the orders to be used against ‘oafish and intimidating’ behaviour and this was not demonstrated by the defendant. However, the Judge did warn that the right to protest did not override the right of others to use the highway, or of police officers to carry out their duties and he said that ȁc;there could be circumstances where anti-social behaviour orders may be used against those engaging in political or other protests, if they indulged in intimidating behaviourȁd;.

Dispersal Orders

Section 30 of the Anti Social Behaviour Act 2003 allows a senior police officer to give authorisation for officers to issue dispersal orders in areas where he has reasonable grounds for believing that any members of the public have been intimidated, harassed, alarmed or distressed as a result of the presence of behaviour of groups of two or more person and if anti-social behaviour is a significant and persistent problem in the area.

Once an authorisation is in place, an officer in uniform may order groups of two or more people to disperse or to leave the area if he or she has reasonable grounds for believing that their behaviour is, or is likely to, cause members of the public to be intimidated, harassed or distressed.

In a recent case it was held that even if the initial authorisation was granted because of completely unrelated anti-social behaviour it still enabled a dispersal order to be made in relation to a group of protesters. However, it is only when behaviour moves beyond legitimate protest and becomes behaviour that gives a constable reasonable grounds for believing that is has resulted or is likely to result in intimidation, harassment, alarm or distress that the constable can actually direct the group to disperse. A dispersal order cannot be given to those who are taking part in a public procession to which section 11(1) of the Public Order Act 1986 relates.

Knowingly contravening a dispersal order or direction under this section is a criminal offence.

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howzer · Sep 17, 2011

Your Right to Peaceful Protest

Peaceful protest it is a vital part of a democratic society and has a very long and respected tradition in the United Kingdom. It can be a very powerful campaign tool and many of the rights and freedoms we enjoy today were gained because people were prepared to go out on the streets and protest. Since the coming to force of the Human Rights Act we can finally say that we have a right to peaceful protest.

However, this right is not absolute and there are a multitude of laws that can be used against protesters. In recent years, new legislation to deal with a range of threats, from terrorism to anti-social behaviour, has given the police very wide powers to control and restrict the actions of protesters.

This chapter will set out the background to the right to peaceful protest, the legal framework governing the organising and participating in protests and the range of offences that can arise in the course of protesting. It will also provide practical tips for organising and participating in protests safely and lawfully, as well as information on where to go for further help and advice.

howzer · Sep 17, 2011

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Yourrightsandresponsibilities/DG_176761

http://www.urban75.org/football/rights.html

http://www.essexsignandprint.co.uk/pvc-banners-40-c.asp

http://www.campaigncentral.org.uk/know-how/protest-and-law

howzer · Sep 17, 2011

I have been involved in many demos and protests, i can assure you the police are limited as are the club to any action regards clothing. good luck

Wallace · Sep 17, 2011

I am all for this idea and applaud you. SISU have to be stopped, in my opinion before the New Year, when the transfer window opens, because they will sell our kids, I know they will. Do you think they give a fig if AT walks because of that? They are in this world to make money NOT to see a successful team.
ps We can still take our banners to away games. It has been said about going to one match on-mass. Well let's go with all our 'out SISU- stuff too.

Otis · Sep 17, 2011

CovKingChris said:
Someone has talked to us about buying 100 off of us at a discounted price to sell at a pub before the game.

Can you follow the link on to the facebook page please because then we can make the order by contacting you in a private message over fbook.

No need for sarcasm PVA. We're just giving the people what they want!

Isn't that the stock defence of a drug dealer?

Macca · Sep 17, 2011

I'm going to get some "Somebody in" t shirts printed as that would seem to be quite a pressing issue.

Macca · Sep 17, 2011

Wallace said:
I am all for this idea and applaud you. SISU have to be stopped, in my opinion before the New Year, when the transfer window opens, because they will sell our kids, I know they will. Do you think they give a fig if AT walks because of that? They are in this world to make money NOT to see a successful team.
ps We can still take our banners to away games. It has been said about going to one match on-mass. Well let's go with all our 'out SISU- stuff too.

Any owners will sell good players, has always been the way.

By all means lets see the back of SISU but don't live in a fantasy world that things will change that much for a club without a home and cowds of 14000

CovKingChris · Sep 18, 2011

We'll be outside the club shop before the game if you want one. £3 each. Come in small, medium, large, xl.

wingy · Sep 18, 2011

CovKingChris said:
We'll be outside the club shop before the game if you want one. £3 each. Come in small, medium, large, xl.

Chris just be aware you may encounter problems selling there ,James the lad who sells twist and shout has had several runnins with them,especially when it comes to merchandise ,addmittedly that was due to copywrite ,but they are pretty hostile

Platt_The_Donkey · Sep 18, 2011

CovKingChris said:
We're just trying to see how many we need to make. We'll sell them for £3 each and so sizes small, medium, large and possibly extra large (XL would cost a bit more).

Follow this link to the facebook page and do what it says on the status.

what if its cold and rainy, will the cameras be able to see under my big coat?:

CovKingChris · Sep 18, 2011

Platt_The_Donkey said:
what if its cold and rainy, will the cameras be able to see under my big coat?:

Bigi won't let it rain!

CovKingChris · Sep 21, 2011

Apologies but our machinery broke down today so we are not able to print any t-shirts until Monday. So we won't be outside the club shop on Saturday, but we will be at the following game on Tuesday.

ashbyjan · Sep 21, 2011

You didn't have an orange coloured repair guy with a faint smell of pool boy and sun tan oil service the machine did you? Check that there isn't a slightly soiled gold posing pouch jamming the cogs.

lordsummerisle · Sep 21, 2011

I've got a "Bono is a twat" T-shirt.

Wanker still singing though.

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