SISU Strategy ? (1 Viewer)

magic82ball · Jan 24, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
I think there is another option where they buy and have permission to build on a 60-70 acre green belt site. Then sell the club to someone else, change the use of green belt land development and sell for an inflated figure, so making the ROI required.

Planning permission from CCC?

John_Silletts_Nose · Jan 24, 2014

grego_gee said:
But its not a public investment fund, its more like a millionaires club!

Although there is no strict definition, I think Private Equity Fund is closer to how SISU Capital are operating in this case.

The difference is explained here, http://www.privateequityinfo.com/blog/2009/06/private-equity-vs-hedge-funds/
The wikipedia explanation of a private equity fund is here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_equity_fund

bigfatronssba · Jan 24, 2014

grego_gee said:
Why do you think you should?
It is after all their money!

So if its about money, do you not agree then that we are just customers?

John_Silletts_Nose · Jan 24, 2014

magic82ball said:
Planning permission from CCC?

No, green belt land which is outside of Coventry boundaries, and using political contacts in government to facilitate the approval of plans; the government has already mentioned the possibility of using green belt land in UK. Mentioned some of this in the original post.

magic82ball · Jan 24, 2014

John_Silletts_Nose said:
No, green belt land which is outside of Coventry boundaries, and using political contacts in government to facilitate the approval of plans; the government has already mentioned the possibility of using green belt land in UK. Mentioned some of this in the original post.

Oh your talking about the "new ground", thought you was saying develop the Ricoh...

bigfatronssba · Jan 24, 2014

Football grounds dont get built on greenbelt.

Sisu can have contacts with as many people as they want but they still wont get planning permission for it.

The Gentleman · Jan 24, 2014

grego_gee said:
Why do you think you should?
It is after all their money!

Is it their money, or someone else's. I wonder if the people who are having there money used in this whole charade would agree on it's current path.

The Gentleman · Jan 24, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Why shouldn't we have that power?

I know, fan power works quite well in Germany and Italy

torchomatic · Jan 24, 2014

DAmn it. We're not in Italy or Germany. Typical bloody Shitsu.

The Gentleman said:
I know, fan power works quite well in Germany and Italy

The Gentleman · Jan 24, 2014

torchomatic said:
DAmn it. We're not in Italy or Germany. Typical bloody SISU.

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John_Silletts_Nose · Jan 24, 2014

bigfatronssba said:
Football grounds dont get built on greenbelt.

Sisu can have contacts with as many people as they want but they still wont get planning permission for it.

I hope you are right and I am wrong but take a look at this,

In both the 2010 Coalition Agreement and the National Planning Policy Framework (NPPF), published in March 2012, the Government stated clearly that it attaches great importance to the Green Belt and that it will seek to maintain existing levels of protection. Yet, evidence gathered by CPRE shows that Green Belts are under threat across England.

A number of significant harmful developments in the Green Belt have recently been approved. They include:

a hotel development in connection with the expansion of Chester Zoo,
a new leisure resort in Leatherhead, Surrey,
two housing developments totalling 665 dwellings in Thurrock,
warehouses near Wakefield connected to a proposed community stadium2, and
an out of town shopping centre in York.

Three of these cases (Chester, Leatherhead and York) were granted without a public inquiry.

http://www.cpre.org.uk/what-we-do/h...pth/item/3027-major-threats-to-the-green-belt

magic82ball · Jan 24, 2014

torchomatic said:
DAmn it. We're not in Italy or Germany. Typical bloody Shitsu.

What's your point?

TheRoyalScam · Jan 24, 2014

Could someone explain to me how all this talk of 'investors', 'private equity funds' and 'pension funds' relates to the regular utterances from the likes of Stephen Pressley when they state:

'having talked with the owner',

and club directors on 14th January 2014 stating:

'A huge thanks must go to the owner for injecting the required funding to allow us to move into this stronger position.'?

Nick · Jan 24, 2014

TheRoyalScam said:
Could someone explain to me how all this talk of 'investors', 'private equity funds' and 'pension funds' relates to the regular utterances from the likes of Stephen Pressley when they state:

'having talked with the owner',

and club directors on 14th January 2014 stating:

'A huge thanks must go to the owner for injecting the required funding to allow us to move into this stronger position.'?

Surely he means Seppalla?

shmmeee · Jan 24, 2014

Nick said:
Surely the investors will already know if their investments are making money or not?

They likely have no idea. See left wing groups that invested in arms and oil. Some of them may not want to be associated with the rape of a local asset. Shareholder activism does work. The hard part in our case is finding the shareholders.

TheRoyalScam · Jan 24, 2014

Nick said:
Surely he means Seppalla?

My point exactly!

So who is the owner of CCFC? Seppala, or a number of 'investors'?

Sky Blue Kid · Jan 24, 2014

@ Nick....Have you got a Bank Account?.......I'll take that as a yes shall I ?......How do you think Banks make their money?

James Smith · Jan 24, 2014

Nick said:
So if you saw your money wasn't going very well ie sisu you could just sack them off and move it?

Yes that's essentially it, unless there is a lock in period where you have been informed that you can't withdraw from the fund, then it's your cash if you want to take it away. I was given a book for Christmas called The Greatest Trade Ever by someone who said that it would help my understanding of why the credit crisis/crunch happened. It's about John Paulson who made the hedge fund he owns $20bn betting that basically the housing market would implode when it did. However some investors got cold feet and pulled their money out before the fund started making any money. Some stuck it into other funds at the same company others withdrew completely.

Hobo · Jan 24, 2014

Nick said:
Nope I haven't had either, but if I had invested money where it could be risky or invested in something that would make a loss I would probably keep an eye on my hard earned to know how it is doing.

The point is Nick you don't know, you give your money to a bank, they invest it in various markets and financial institutions, it soon becomes multi layered. Some low risk some high. The point is Nick you wouldn't know where it is.

Grendel · Jan 24, 2014

Sky Blue Kid said:
@ Nick....Have you got a Bank Account?.......I'll take that as a yes shall I ?......How do you think Banks make their money?

Beer I think?

Sky Blue Kid · Jan 24, 2014

Grenduffy.....Beer I think?.........................................Good guess, but not right I'm afraid.

Nick · Jan 24, 2014

Grendel said:
Beer I think?

Isn't it bitter?

Como · Jan 24, 2014

If they sold CCFC they would realise the losses, which may not be something they want to do.

I do not get the property development angle, not their area and I do not see owning a Club would help or hinder.

Would also make it a very very long term project.

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