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rob9872 · Sep 29, 2016

They're not going to make anything out of us ever, so has anyone actually asked the question direct to them as to what they want to just fuck off?

We can't keep rinse and repeat every season, there has to be an end to this. It's slowly killing our club and it's so painful to see (family apart) one of my few passions in my life dying like this.

Please SISU - just fuck off and die!

Captain Dart · Sep 29, 2016

rob9872 said:
They're not going to make anything out of us ever, so has anyone actually asked the question direct to them as to what they want to just fuck off?

We can't keep rinse and repeat every season, there has to be an end to this. It's slowly killing our club and it's so painful to see (family apart) one of my few passions in my life dying like this.

Please SISU - just fuck off and die!

Yes.

Deleted member 2477 · Sep 29, 2016

Time for us all to up the anti and rid the club of these parasites. Dont matter now how its done as the club is dying and we all know where this will end if we dont get rid

aviles · Sep 29, 2016

An idea for a protest cover the stadium in sisu out posters fill the ground for one game and get 28,000 sisu out posters all over the stadium that will surely get us some publicity

mrtrench · Sep 29, 2016

Nothing we do will ever make a difference. They will go only when it costs them more to stay than their expected returns. They certainly won't go until the court cases are exhausted.

mrtrench · Sep 29, 2016

Subscript: the only hope from protest is that the FA steps in. I don't think they will with such litigious owners.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Sep 29, 2016

mrtrench said:
Subscript: the only hope from protest is that the FA steps in. I don't think they will with such litigious owners.

There's as much chance of that as me winning the euromillions

MusicDating · Sep 29, 2016

mrtrench said:
Nothing we do will ever make a difference. They will go only when it costs them more to stay than their expected returns. They certainly won't go until the court cases are exhausted.

But do they still have to be owners whilst pursuing the court cases? Even if they win JR1 and JR2, it won't rip up the contract with Wasps, they'll just get compo. Which they wouldn't invest in CCFC. I just see us in the same position win or lose in the courts.

Joy Division · Sep 29, 2016

Nobody is ever going to come in and offer them money for the club, it does make me wonder why they are even still here and haven't just cut their losses and left.

Red John · Sep 29, 2016

Joy Division said:
Nobody is ever going to come in and offer them money for the club, it does make me wonder why they are even still here and haven't just cut their losses and left.

Never mind cutting their losses, would much prefer them to cut their throats.....

Skyblueweeman · Sep 29, 2016

I had it on good authority that they won't be liquidating the club and will see the legal through to conclusion. No game plan after that though.

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ecky · Sep 29, 2016

mrtrench said:
Nothing we do will ever make a difference. They will go only when it costs them more to stay than their expected returns. They certainly won't go until the court cases are exhausted.

Hit them where it hurts, in the pocket!

Liquid Gold · Sep 29, 2016

oldskyblue58 · Sep 29, 2016

Skyblueweeman said:
I had it on good authority that they won't be liquidating the club and will see the legal through to conclusion. No game plan after that though.

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That scenario would not surprise me sbw

no_loyalty · Sep 29, 2016

Skyblueweeman said:
I had it on good authority that they won't be liquidating the club and will see the legal through to conclusion. No game plan after that though.

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Looking highly likely, is the next court case January?

Chipfat · Sep 29, 2016

Everyone is wondering why they are here and what is the plan. The truth is they have no plan for the club, we can fall to wherever it goes while they have the GS they will take it to the only place they know, Court.

roberthealy67 · Sep 29, 2016

Sisu are using the club to right of tax elsewhere in the company so I think we are fucked

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ceetee · Sep 29, 2016

roberthealy67 said:
Sisu are using the club to right of tax elsewhere in the company so I think we are fucked

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Do please excplain to those of us who are not financial experts

mrtrench · Sep 29, 2016

roberthealy67 said:
Sisu are using the club to right of tax elsewhere in the company so I think we are fucked

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They are off shore. Which tax specifically do you think they pay and need to write off elsewhere?

Captain Dart · Sep 29, 2016

roberthealy67 said:
Sisu are using the club to right of tax elsewhere in the company so I think we are fucked

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This keeps being said but only by people that know fuck all about business or finance. If OSB can't see it then it ain't happening.

Hobo · Sep 30, 2016

mrtrench said:
They are off shore. Which tax specifically do you think they pay and need to write off elsewhere?

They pay tax in this country, they have been fined before for non /late payment.

Brylowes · Sep 30, 2016

Captain Dart said:
This keeps being said but only by people that know fuck all about business or finance. If OSB can't see it then it ain't happening.

This does keep cropping up, but I don't know nearly enough about it too call people
Out on it, but corporate taxation is a mine field and I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out
Of hand.

mrtrench · Sep 30, 2016

Hobo said:
They pay tax in this country, they have been fined before for non /late payment.

I don't know about that; I recall them being fined for late submission of accounts, which is a very different thing. However what I am most certain about is that they do not like making a loss because somehow it enables them to reduce taxes. This is absolute tosh. Corporation tax is 20%; so if they make £1 million profit they are left with £800,000. Who in business would prefer to lose £1 million elsewhere so that they are left with nothing rather than paying the £200k tax?

Hobo · Sep 30, 2016

mrtrench said:
I don't know about that; I recall them being fined for late submission of accounts, which is a very different thing. However what I am most certain about is that they do not like making a loss because somehow it enables them to reduce taxes. This is absolute tosh. Corporation tax is 20%; so if they make £1 million profit they are left with £800,000. Who in business would prefer to lose £1 million elsewhere so that they are left with nothing rather than paying the £200k tax?

People like you and me get hammered for tax and low income people get prosecuted for benefit fraud. Large complex companies get to negotiate millions owed in tax away for nothing....simply because it is too complex

roberthealy67 · Oct 31, 2016

So you know all about offshore banking how are we still going it was said last season we need 11000 fans just to break even and our gates this season is around 8000 at the best of times so we are making a loss how long can it go on for ??

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rupert_bear · Oct 31, 2016

mrtrench said:
Subscript: the only hope from protest is that the FA steps in. I don't think they will with such litigious owners.

Step in and do what ?

georgehudson · Oct 31, 2016

In my opinion I think a lot of this has to do with spite, I seem to remember both Cncllr Mutton & Cncclr Lucas having a verbal altercation with Ms Seppala, 'a woman scorned' & all that ! :dummy1:

Nick · Oct 31, 2016

georgehudson said:
In my opinion I think a lot of this has to do with spite, I seem to remember both Cncllr Mutton & Cncclr Lucas having a verbal altercation with Ms Seppala, 'a woman scorned' & all that ! :dummy1:

So she is doing things to spite the council?

covcity4life · Oct 31, 2016

this thread is posted once every 4 months ffs

rupert_bear · Oct 31, 2016

Hobo said:
People like you and me get hammered for tax and low income people get prosecuted for benefit fraud. Large complex companies get to negotiate millions owed in tax away for nothing....simply because it is too complex

That's correct, owe £600 in tax you can get summoned, owe a million you get invited for a chat and dinner !

dongonzalos · Oct 31, 2016

If The SISU portfolio is only just in the black. Say between 50k - 400k.
If CCFC gets to breakeven. Then heaven forbid we make a small profit year on year.

Would that be significant to SISU's overall portfolio and how the company looks to future investors?

Could renting in a small stadium at the Butts. (Not paid for by the SISU portfolio)
Or
A cheap long term rental deal at the Ricoh with more access to revenue, achieve that?

dongonzalos · Oct 31, 2016

Nick said:
So she is doing things to spite the council?

You would assume in business, at that level you can't afford to bring spite into it. On both sides.
Mistrust yes but spite would be amateur.

Deleted member 5849 · Oct 31, 2016

Brylowes said:
This does keep cropping up, but I don't know nearly enough about it too call people
Out on it, but corporate taxation is a mine field and I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out
Of hand.

Even when the financial experts do?

robbiekeane · Oct 31, 2016

cant imagine there are many threads like this

Nick · Oct 31, 2016

Deleted member 5849 said:
Even when the financial experts do?

No, much better to just keep saying it over and over so that more people believe it.

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