How the fook do you know if salary had been agreed in principle and Ince made further demands after the job offer that Fisher and Waggot refused?
But it's a story that's 'out there' and hasn't been denied by the club, eh? Let's face it, it doesn't paint Fisher and Waggott in a particularly good light, and it'd take seconds to deny should they so desire. So, it's an undenied rumour; whereas there's no story - even from sources less reliable than the CET that it's false. Only some folk who don't want to subscribe to the realisation that the upper management of our club is akin to a chimp's tea party
That could have happened. But recent history shows us it's SISU who change negotiations / contracts; so it's a case of making a call based on recent evidence
The club will tell us that Robbins was always their first choice just like McDonald was their first choice and not LeFondre.............Is Jackanory still on?
That could have happened. But recent history shows us it's SISU who change negotiations / contracts; so it's a case of making a call based on recent evidence
To the same extent that they haven't yet refuted the "rumour"(I don't know possibly busy installing a new manager or something), a rumour with no substance or reference shouldn't automatically be assumed to be the truth because it fits in with your world-view.
How about the evidence that suggests Waggott did a good job at Charlton? Also how about an assumption on how Ince may negotiate based on his charecter?
How about the evidence that suggests Waggott did a good job at Charlton? Also how about an assumption on how Ince may negotiate based on his character?
MMM...Your incessant questioning of situations based purely on guess work rather than fact is lowering your stock.
It's not guesswork. It's a story run in the most widely circulated newspaper in the City it appertains to. By all means pour scorn on the journalism of the CET, but guesswork on my behalf, it's not
Hammill was first brought to Oakwell by Simon Davey, not Mark Robins.i live up north in south yorkshire and the fans all spoke very highly of him and you've got to remember this guy has never been sacked as a manger had a cracking scoreing record too found some little gems in le fondre hamill to name but two,thats why i belive in him
To be fair it sounds like you just have a small issue with mark Robins..you sound like most fans do about ex managersHammill was first brought to Oakwell by Simon Davey, not Mark Robins.
And Adam le Fondre wasn't 'found' by Robins either, he was already prolific and sought after, after his spell with Rochdale and Keith Hill.
Wrong.To be fair it sounds like you just have a small issue with mark Robins..you sound like most fans do about ex managers
Wrong.
I'm merely being honest, trying to give you an insight into your new gaffer - a guy I've seen week in week out for 2 years as BFC manager.
I don't think it's fair that a post suggests he found two gems in Hammill and le Fondre, when that's untrue. It will give some of you the impression that he's got a good eye for a player, and one or two signings apart, that couldn't be further from the truth.
I liked him as a man, I met him and spoke with him often. However, I won't lie to you by claiming he's some sort of genius.
As I said on my thread, he's decent. And, he should stabilise you. He's potentially a good manager.
Nothing there suggests I have any bitterness.
Why would I be bitter? We're a far better team/club since he left and Keith Hill took the job on. Far better.
Might take them a greggs down to get on telly!
There is a motorway show on, loads of lorries and grit trucks scattered so they might be interested in that!
The facts may never be known, and we are all entitled to our opinions. I'm just wary of stating opinion as fact until the facts are known.
Okay - fair point. I have little time for Waggott as he joined ahead of the January window and signed less players than our relegation candidates who went on to pull away from us in the league, then missed out on our summer transfer targets since we were straight-jacketed by embargo, stated he'd give Thorn chance to put things right conceding that 'there were off-the-field matters that affected team affairs and felt it was right and proper to give Andy the chance to put that right' then sacked him after 3 league games unbeaten, left us manager less for 4 successive league defeats, and then I read reports in local papers that stated that he'd offered the job to his Number One target who'd turned him down.
Now, that's much better. Even I concede
What he did at Charlton is of no interest to me. A long time ago, I used to like Gary Glitter....
Since being at Coventry, he failed in bringing in targets in January and the loan window, and failed to pick up our summer transfer targets due to the employer he's now cosying-up against leaving us in an embargo situation. Now he's complicit on the farce of sacking the manager 3 games into the season without successor. When the local paper runs a story that he's missed out - yet again - I can see substance in it as this bloke's like Ray Charles in a darts match
Many attributing factors though, to take into consideration.Mark robins 38% win ratio
Kieth hill 28% win ratio.
Even if the footballs better the results arent
Many attributing factors though, to take into consideration.
Mark was given a bigger budget, and had the owner paying wages out of his own pocket.
The majority of his signings were Premier League loanees, or 750k signings such as Jason Shackell.
We had made over £2m the previous year from our FA Cup exploits.
Keith has had no such luxuries.
Keith has had to contend with injuries on an epic scale.
His most expensive recruit was signing both Scott Wiseman and Matty Done for a combined 200k from Rochdale.
And, win ratio is not how I judge my managers.
I prefer to judge them on the job they are doing, the football they're serving up, their attitude in interviews, the strategy they are using.
Keith Hill is thus doing a far better job than Mark Robins.
Obviously, as he's your new boss, you're going to try defend him, or find the good bits, and I understand that.
But I wouldn't be as slack as to try telling you how or why Aidy Boothroyd was better/worse than Chris Coleman.
Because I wouldn't have a clue, seen as I don't support Coventry, and can only go on stats such as win ratios.........
Are SSN still outside the Ricoh?
You should pay more attention to win ratio, despite thorny playing the some of the best football we had seen in recent years, he left with the worst win ratio of any manager. Football in the end is about winning, as thorny found out after three games this season
You should pay more attention to win ratio, despite thorny playing the some of the best football we had seen in recent years, he left with the worst win ratio of any manager. Football in the end is about winning, as thorny found out after three games this season
You cant blame all of this on Gary Glitter.
He played awful predictable football. The only people we thought it was the best football in recent years was the opposition who sussed it out time and time again.
The totality of his name rhymes with 'shitter'. Oh, why didn't we see the writing on the wall?
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