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eyesee · Jul 4, 2024

is there any alternative to sky for watching away games in the uk?
they ripped me off years ago. (they didn't cancel my subscription when i asked them to, then insisted i "pay up" or they would ruin my credit rating.) so i vowed never to use the money grabbing cnuts again.

wingy · Jul 4, 2024

eyesee said:
is there any alternative to sky for watching away games in the uk?
they ripped me off years ago. (they didn't cancel my subscription when i asked them to, then insisted i "pay up" or they would ruin my credit rating.) so i vowed never to use the money grabbing cnuts again.

Quelle surprise!

Johhny Blue · Jul 4, 2024

itsabuzzard said:
Don't be fucking ridiculous. Everyone knows the earth is flat.

As a member of the flat earth society I can confirm that we accept new members from around the globe

itsabuzzard · Jul 4, 2024

Johhny Blue said:
As a member of the flat earth society I can confirm that we accept new members from around the globe

From all four corners?

LastChance · Jul 4, 2024

itsabuzzard said:
From all four corners?

... from around the disc

andrew.roberts · Jul 4, 2024

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Happy_Martian · Jul 4, 2024

Telfer85 said:
I think you can watch through sky sports app however I would give sky a call. I’m pretty sure they do free upgrades from the hd boxes to sky q. Either way just call em and tell them you’re not happy about it and you’re thinking of cancelling. Then just see what they offer. If your out of contract your in a stronger position but make sure you get through to their retentions department.

It's not free to upgrade. It's akin to selling your soul.

I can confirm that Sky can update your system from legacy to Q or Glass in lieu of a new contract as the prices are different.

Minimum requirements are that you have a fibre optic broadband system as the data transfer is high.

I know this as a legacy Sky customer (Sky HD+ box and old BT line Broadband Unlimited). I tried to upgrade to Glass earlier in the year but for them to install their fibre optic, BT Openreach would have to dig up my front garden to install a cable to the house. And the garden is 6 inches of concrete, a product they wouldn't replace. And something that only came to light when Openreach sent me a letter advising when they'd attend for the installation.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 4, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
It's not free to upgrade. It's akin to selling your soul.

I can confirm that Sky can update your system from legacy to Q or Glass in lieu of a new contract as the prices are different.

Minimum requirements are that you have a fibre optic broadband system as the data transfer is high.

I know this as a legacy Sky customer (Sky HD+ box and old BT line Broadband Unlimited). I tried to upgrade to Glass earlier in the year but for them to install their fibre optic, BT Openreach would have to dig up my front garden to install a cable to the house. And the garden is 6 inches of concrete, a product they wouldn't replace. And something that only came to light when Openreach sent me a letter advising when they'd attend for the installation.

I've just had BT full fibre installed and all Openreach had to do was replace the old cable from the post in the street with the full fibre one, the post they use for the landline, job only took 45 minutes to do.

Do you live in the Country side or something ?

And it didn't cost me anything to upgrade.

Happy_Martian · Jul 4, 2024

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I've just had BT full fibre installed and all Openreach had to do was replace the old cable from the post in the street with the full fibre one, the post they use for the landline, job only took 45 minutes to do.

Do you live in the Country side or something ?

And it didn't cost me anything to upgrade.

What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Modern telephony cables are laid up to 5 feet underground, from the telephone exchange to your road and beyond. Your landline runs from them.

And the method of installation was confirmed today by an Openreach engineer visiting a neighbour to do exactly the same upgrade. Dig up pavement, install new cable, run new cable to property.

And while BT may offer a free upgrade, the post I replied to was about SKY. Upgrading your service to Q, Stream or Glass equals a new contract and new broadband router. The new cable installation is all part of the costs.

scubasteve · Jul 4, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Modern telephony cables are laid up to 5 feet underground, from the telephone exchange to your road and beyond. Your landline runs from them.

And the method of installation was confirmed today by an Openreach engineer visiting a neighbour to do exactly the same upgrade. Dig up pavement, install new cable, run new cable to property.

And while BT may offer a free upgrade, the post I replied to was about SKY. Upgrading your service to Q, Stream or Glass equals a new contract and new broadband router. The new cable installation is all part of the costs.

You probably live on what they call a direct in ground estate, commonly built in the 70s and 80s. They didnt duct from the house to the network in the street, just buried the copper cable.
They will dig up and replace you concrete garden/drive for free and its a small trench. the bad news is you won't have choice in the very near future, all copper broadband lines will be turned off and you will be forced onto fibre or nothing.
And I think he means the cable spanned from a pole to the house pretty common for houses built in the 50s and 60s.
New builds from 90s ish onwards have duct to the network so no issue changing the cable from copper to fibre optic.

Darth Robins · Jul 4, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Funny, there's a telegraph pole about 50ft from my house that provides me and a bunch of other people on my street with gigabit fibre. I must be imagining it.

Happy_Martian · Jul 4, 2024

scubasteve said:
You probably live on what they call a direct in ground estate, commonly built in the 70s and 80s. They didnt duct from the house to the network in the street, just buried the copper cable.
They will dig up and replace you concrete garden/drive for free and its a small trench. the bad news is you won't have choice in the very near future, all copper broadband lines will be turned off and you will be forced onto fibre or nothing.
And I think he means the cable spanned from a pole to the house pretty common for houses built in the 50s and 60s.
New builds from 90s ish onwards have duct to the network so no issue changing the cable from copper to fibre optic.

Correct. Estate built late 60s.

And if you are absolutely certain about them replacing the concrete, I'd be happier to go ahead with it. Just don't want a strip of tarmac or the expense of me having to replace the surface if they don't.

But then it's the concreted porch that they'd have to go under. Hope they'll be able to feed the cables through an airbrick in the front wall and install under the front floorboards.

mark82 · Jul 4, 2024

Pretty sure you don't need fibre to the premises for Sky Q. Only need fibre to the cabinet.

Happy_Martian · Jul 4, 2024

Darth Robins said:
Funny, there's a telegraph pole about 50ft from my house that provides me and a bunch of other people on my street with gigabit fibre. I must be imagining it.

Because you have them doesn't mean they are new.

Read scubasteve's reply above. Your telephone post is older than my sunken wires.

Happy_Martian · Jul 4, 2024

mark82 said:
Pretty sure you don't need fibre to the premises for Sky Q. Only need fibre to the cabinet.

Only going on what Sky told me. Had everything ordered then got the Openreach letter about having to dig to the property. Cancellation went in the same day.

ovduk78 · Jul 4, 2024

Darth Robins said:
Funny, there's a telegraph pole about 50ft from my house that provides me and a bunch of other people on my street with gigabit fibre. I must be imagining it.

There's one in our back garden servicing 6 houses, well it was when I was out earlier

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 4, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Modern telephony cables are laid up to 5 feet underground, from the telephone exchange to your road and beyond. Your landline runs from them.

And the method of installation was confirmed today by an Openreach engineer visiting a neighbour to do exactly the same upgrade. Dig up pavement, install new cable, run new cable to property.

And while BT may offer a free upgrade, the post I replied to was about SKY. Upgrading your service to Q, Stream or Glass equals a new contract and new broadband router. The new cable installation is all part of the costs.

Well Laddie, your Wrong, the underground cable ( full fibre ) has stopped Short of the street I live on.

We still have Telegraph poles in the street and they, BT in partnership with EE, run new cable's from pole to pole and then to the house , which includes a new Router and because I'm a BT customer the institution is free, it's part of Government plan role out Full Fibre across the Country.

Anyway, nice try

mark82 · Jul 4, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
Only going on what Sky told me. Had everything ordered then got the Openreach letter about having to dig to the property. Cancellation went in the same day.

Might've changed. I've had it a few years now. Might just be them trying to force upgrades on broadband.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 4, 2024

mark82 said:
Might've changed. I've had it a few years now. Might just be them trying to force upgrades on broadband.

Yeah that's what they trying to do, force people to upgrade, I must have had about 4 different companies trying to get me to upgrade.

scubasteve · Jul 4, 2024

It will be a forced upgrade, as fibre to the cab or regular copper broadband is going obsolete. You probably have a 2-3 years depending where you live and they will turn it off. Everyone will end up on full fibre to the house.
Openreach which covers BT sky, talk talk, plusnet, will cover the cost of digging and replacing your garden, they will most likey duct a 2.5 inch pipe from path to the front of your house.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 4, 2024

scubasteve said:
It will be a forced upgrade, as fibre to the cab or regular copper broadband is going obsolete. You probably have a 2-3 years depending where you live and they will turn it off. Everyone will end up on full fibre to the house.
Openreach which covers BT sky, talk talk, plusnet, will cover the cost of digging and replacing your garden, they will most likey duct a 2.5 inch pipe from path to the front of your house.

Just to say, I'm glad I did the upgrade, I'm now getting 150mb/s download.

chickentikkamasala · Jul 5, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Modern telephony cables are laid up to 5 feet underground, from the telephone exchange to your road and beyond. Your landline runs from them.

And the method of installation was confirmed today by an Openreach engineer visiting a neighbour to do exactly the same upgrade. Dig up pavement, install new cable, run new cable to property.

And while BT may offer a free upgrade, the post I replied to was about SKY. Upgrading your service to Q, Stream or Glass equals a new contract and new broadband router. The new cable installation is all part of the costs.

Hilarious response

A little research gives the less informed some knowledge. CityFibre's current fibre rollout involves laying cables underground to each telegraph pole. A fibre cable is then linked from the telegraph pole to your house (same way as old fashioned telephone lines were installed).

In some areas they are put underground, but CityFibre have an agreement with BT to use their poles. Less disruption to roads, streets and gardens.

CityFibre are digging in my street, what are you doing?
CityFibre is rolling out the UK’s most advanced broadband network to 8 million homes and businesses nationwide.

With permission from local councils, we build the network in your streets – creating underground pipe networks and using telegraph poles to bring full fibre broadband within reach of homes and businesses.

CityFibre are digging in my street, what are you doing?

With permission from local councils, we build the network in your streets – creating underground pipe networks and using telegraph poles to bring full…

cityfibre.com

You do not need to thank me for educating you

Happy_Martian · Jul 5, 2024

chickentikkamasala said:
Hilarious response

You do not need to thank me for educating you

No worries there, I wasn't planning on it.

Nick · Jul 5, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
What are you on about ?

Post in the street ? Think it's you who hasn't reached the 21st century yet. Telegraph poles haven't been around for a while now, laddie.

Modern telephony cables are laid up to 5 feet underground, from the telephone exchange to your road and beyond. Your landline runs from them.

And the method of installation was confirmed today by an Openreach engineer visiting a neighbour to do exactly the same upgrade. Dig up pavement, install new cable, run new cable to property.

And while BT may offer a free upgrade, the post I replied to was about SKY. Upgrading your service to Q, Stream or Glass equals a new contract and new broadband router. The new cable installation is all part of the costs.

Loads still run fibre from telegraph poles but yeah there's others you need the front digging up for the fibre to go that way.

Mine was done in about an hour with some fibre from the telegraph pole, through the wall, some clips on the outside and done.

Senior Vick from Alicante · Jul 5, 2024

eyesee said:
is there any alternative to sky for watching away games in the uk?
they ripped me off years ago. (they didn't cancel my subscription when i asked them to, then insisted i "pay up" or they would ruin my credit rating.) so i vowed never to use the money grabbing cnuts again.

See if any of your mates has Sky go, they can add you on as a user and you can watch it via your laptop or tablet.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Jul 5, 2024

Nick said:
Loads still run fibre from telegraph poles but yeah there's others you need the front digging up for the fibre to go that way.

Mine was done in about an hour with some fibre from the telegraph pole, through the wall, some clips on the outside and done.

And the download speed is Excellent 150mbs, and that's at the entry level, I could have got alot more down load speed if I wanted it, but I don't do Gaming so I don't need the Extra Speeds.

I would recommend it, get it done People

Happy_Martian · Jul 5, 2024

Nick said:
Loads still run fibre from telegraph poles but yeah there's others you need the front digging up for the fibre to go that way.

Mine was done in about an hour with some fibre from the telegraph pole, through the wall, some clips on the outside and done.

Don't doubt others still have poles, they're visible all over the city. And others have buried cables, even though @COVKIDSNEVERQUIT thinks we're out in the country somewhere

But thanks for the input. The neighbour's engineers have been out today to get his buried lines converted and have spoken directly to me (rather than my 80 yr old father). I've a better understanding of what they will do so will be going ahead with moving over. And will be having my buried lines dug up, replaced and reburied.

Poles may be easier to maintain but streets look neater without overhead wires all over the place

Obviously the service provider will have their own broadband modem. Does anyone have a Sky Glass or Sky Stream modem ? How many connections do they allow ? I've got 3 TVs that would need pucks and I'm wondering how they'll attach to the modem (WiFi presumably but do they allow for network cable connection ?).

Happy_Martian · Jul 5, 2024

Senior Vick from Alicante said:
See if any of your mates has Sky go, they can add you on as a user and you can watch it via your laptop or tablet.

Sky Go isn't officially supported as an app any more (though it still works in my household ). Heard someone mention a new Sky app is available but haven't researched it.

Woolly68 · Jul 5, 2024

Just had an email from Sky today saying I can have a free SkyQ box upgrade, saving myself £99. Do they read SBT?

Happy_Martian · Jul 5, 2024

Woolly68 said:
Just had an email from Sky today saying I can have a free SkyQ box upgrade, saving myself £99. Do they read SBT?

I wish. Last email I had from them was back in May, advising me of yet more price increases.

eyesee · Jul 5, 2024

Nick said:
Loads still run fibre from telegraph poles but yeah there's others you need the front digging up for the fibre to go that way.

Mine was done in about an hour with some fibre from the telegraph pole, through the wall, some clips on the outside and done.

i had fibre installed on monday, run off the telegraph pole.
took about an hour, although half of that time was the guy supping tea.

Happy_Martian · Jul 5, 2024

eyesee said:
i had fibre installed on monday, run off the telegraph pole.
took about an hour, although half of that time was the guy supping tea.

Did they provide their own or was that part of your installation requirements ?

eyesee · Jul 5, 2024

Happy_Martian said:
Did they provide their own or was that part of your installation requirements ?

my tea.
my hot water.
my milk.
my sugar.
i even loaned him a mug.

Sick Boy · Jul 7, 2024

biggymania said:
One thing I noticed today that might be new - iFollow subscriptions for this season are live:

https://www.ccfc.co.uk/videos/subscriptions

166 EUR for me where I am based - planning to re-subscribe.

I signed up earlier and it's €166 for the upcoming season but looks like it then increases to €210 from 2025.

Cov kid 55 · Jul 7, 2024

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