Caught some of Sheffield Utd today and he looked by some distance their best player and the only real threat. Good chance he stays in the division I think so hopefully a bit of extra cash for us.I think over the season not replacing Hamer is what really did us. Hope we fix that in the summer.
I think it changed when Dennis Lawrence left.This is exactly the season finish i expected before we kicked a ball , a 9th placed finish(check the where will we finish thread ) in a season which is considered a transitional season .
Look , I can't pretend that our form hasn't been disappointing and I've become a bit more negative along with it , in reality I think that the season changed with sakamotos Injury and NOT just fatigue which some , including the manager seem happy to just use as the sole reason .. with sakamoto we had a nice balance of attack and defence and he linked well with O'Hare too , we also had higher quality balls being put into he box .
Reality is I think this is probably exactly where we should be when you consider the massive amount of change in the summer and we've definitely got the foundations of a very good squad here , but we must go into next season with a bigger and more capable squad
I look Forward to seeing who we sign and look forward to an improved effort next year , i still back Mark Robins to get us to the premier league
PUSB
I think over the season not replacing Hamer is what really did us. Hope we fix that in the summer.
Was thinking earlier, considering the Hamer fee bought in Kitching, Mason Clark and Torp.I think over the season not replacing Hamer is what really did us. Hope we fix that in the summer.
Having someone more convincing than Lati at RB would also be a necessity so you can rotate MVE without giving up too much. Could have signed Cannon on a free last summer as one example, BNC would be a decent target for the one coming up.The winger situation is by far and away the main reason we aren't in the playoffs. We needed one in Jan at a minimum, ideally two and got none. If one or two had come in we had rotation/competition for Saka & Wright, cover for Saka's injury and Milan can stick to right back.
I'm convinced even if we had just signed an average championship right winger we would be in 6th right now.
Who is BNC ? 'Big Nose Cnut' ?Having someone more convincing than Lati at RB would also be a necessity so you can rotate MVE without giving up too much. Could have signed Cannon on a free last summer as one example, BNC would be a decent target for the one coming up.
People keep saying this, but we've been told that Torp is the "Hamer replacement". (Even though they are pretty different players in a lot of different ways)I think over the season not replacing Hamer is what really did us. Hope we fix that in the summer.
People keep saying this, but we've been told that Torp is the "Hamer replacement". (Even though they are pretty different players in a lot of different ways)
Torp is nowhere near, and won't be near Hamer.
Yep, absolutely - if you are saying Torp is like Eccles/Sheaf - totally agree.Like Eccles and Sheaf just a different type of player. Hamer gave us energy on and off the ball we’ve really been lacking. Sheaf Eccles and Torp take far more touches before getting a pass off which slows us down too.
I find all of this incredible but the most crazy statement is he lacks control. The thing that he is absolutely brilliant at is controlling the ball. The number of times I have seen him take down really difficult balls this season with instant control! He so rarely loses possession too.I think claiming Eccles is “lacking nothing” is bold. We’d be beating off £100m+ offers if that was the case lol
He’s good at what he does, but he doesn’t have the close control, ability to drive past players, speed of thought, or ability to execute a pass that we’ve been lacking since Hamer left. That’s not his fault, he’s a different type of player.
I’m not spinning or looking for negatives. If we take your approach that every player is world class and has had an amazing season then I guess you’re up for sacking Robins as we didn’t win the league at a canter.
He was injured wasn't he?I think Torp has been a real disappointment TBH. Ending the season behind Liam Kelly and you’re going to get questions asked.
I find all of this incredible but the most crazy statement is he lacks control. The thing that he is absolutely brilliant at is controlling the ball. The number of times I have seen him take down really difficult balls this season with instant control! He so rarely loses possession too.
Some people will never see it but he is a really good and skillful player.
Sheaf has been our captain mostly since returning from his injury. In that time we've seen our form tank pretty much straight away, and us surrender a place in the playoffs. It will trigger a few on here, but that's a terrible look to have happened on a captain's watch. Second time this season as well, and the two bouts of good form we've had have both happened when he was out.
Shouting at a goalkeeper when he's made a mistake isn't what makes you a good captain. Rallying the team and managing them through storms is, as is looking out for your players across the game, sticking up for them, and getting stuck in where required. We've badly missed having a real leader in the team and it's showed. I agree the league position after such a revamp is ok, but to drop away like a stone, which we have done, is massively dissapointing.
He was injured wasn't he?
I think it's gonna take a far bigger rebuild than some (most) are acknowledging.This is exactly the season finish i expected before we kicked a ball , a 9th placed finish(check the where will we finish thread ) in a season which is considered a transitional season .
Look , I can't pretend that our form hasn't been disappointing and I've become a bit more negative along with it , in reality I think that the season changed with sakamotos Injury and NOT just fatigue which some , including the manager seem happy to just use as the sole reason .. with sakamoto we had a nice balance of attack and defence and he linked well with O'Hare too , we also had higher quality balls being put into he box .
Reality is I think this is probably exactly where we should be when you consider the massive amount of change in the summer and we've definitely got the foundations of a very good squad here , but we must go into next season with a bigger and more capable squad
I look Forward to seeing who we sign and look forward to an improved effort next year , i still back Mark Robins to get us to the premier league
PUSB
To be honest for even a player with the personality of Sheaf to just lay into a teammate like that reveals more about frustration in the camp at Collins' throwing it into his own goal every couple of games than whatever Sheaf is like as captain.
I think it's gonna take a far bigger rebuild than some (most) are acknowledging.
I also think that rebuild will be hamstrung by the 'will they/won't they' drama of messrs Gyokeres and Hamer.
But you have to view things through the prism of the Championship. Of course Eccles is no Graeme Souness, but he’s a top quality Championship midfielder. We’ve scored more goals this season without Hamer so if we are lacking what he bought we’re obviously making up for it elsewhere somehow. Every player is clearly not world class but I think we have to appreciate that it does take time to settle in a different country so we have to cut Torp some slack. Trust our scouts - they’ve done ok so far.I think claiming Eccles is “lacking nothing” is bold. We’d be beating off £100m+ offers if that was the case lol
He’s good at what he does, but he doesn’t have the close control, ability to drive past players, speed of thought, or ability to execute a pass that we’ve been lacking since Hamer left. That’s not his fault, he’s a different type of player.
I’m not spinning or looking for negatives. If we take your approach that every player is world class and has had an amazing season then I guess you’re up for sacking Robins as we didn’t win the league at a canter.
It's not gonna take a rebuild at allI think it's gonna take a far bigger rebuild than some (most) are acknowledging.
I also think that rebuild will be hamstrung by the 'will they/won't they' drama of messrs Gyokeres and Hamer.
Really?It's not gonna take a rebuild at all
I don't think so either.It's not gonna take a rebuild at all
You also have Wilson on the bench watching it and probably feeling hard done by in comparison, though he isn’t the answer either.This is the exact reason
Milans interview yesterday pre game also, alluding to frustration with mistakes.
They are human and want to win as a team, when they see a 4 million centre half constantly scoring own goals and getting sent off, and the New Keeper we signed being utter fucking horse shit, its not going to be all champagne and blowjobs is it?
We only need 1 or 2 starters, then a some depth options. I wouldn't call it a rebuild.Really?
How many out + vital additions?
Hope so cos I don't think Sheffield have paid us yet?Caught some of Sheffield Utd today and he looked by some distance their best player and the only real threat. Good chance he stays in the division I think so hopefully a bit of extra cash for us.
I think over the season not replacing Hamer is what really did us. Hope we fix that in the summer.
We had two CBs and three keepers available today. And one of the CBs is leaving!If we don't sort the keeper out everything else is irrelevant.
We had two CBs and three keepers available today. And one of the CBs is leaving!
If we don’t invest in our threadbare defence that’s been leaking goals for months, it doesn’t matter who we have in goal. Signing more and more keepers doesn’t improve the team if they have to watch Joel Latibeaudiere play 40 times a season in four different positions.Not sure what your point is here mate
Yes he has been injured, and hasn’t played enough yet to form much of an opinion, next year will see the best of TorpHe was injured wasn't he?
Hes deffo fingered your wife hasnt he?
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