i still cant believe that with all sisu's cost cutting, we are losing much money.
say we get 10k avr attendance times £15 say.
thats 150k per match, so for 23 home games, that's £3,450,000
now players wages, say our avr wage is £3,000 pw, times 22 players, for 52 weeks, that's £3,432,000.
so without all other factors, we make a profit on match tickets vs wages.
so how are we apparently losing 500k a month?
but last year we had 34 players and i would guess next will be 28 in the squad.......... then add on the other wages(manager, directors, coaches, other staff), the overheads, the interest on loans, the depreciation. It might not be 500k pm but it will be a loss
The losing 500k a month was said ages ago under Ransoni still cant believe that with all sisu's cost cutting, we are losing much money.
say we get 10k avr attendance times £15 say.
thats 150k per match, so for 23 home games, that's £3,450,000
now players wages, say our avr wage is £3,000 pw, times 22 players, for 52 weeks, that's £3,432,000.
so without all other factors, we make a profit on match tickets vs wages.
so how are we apparently losing 500k a month?
The losing 500k a month was said ages ago under Ranson
If you look at the last 12 months, considering we haven't paid any rent, cut wages a lot on coming down to league 1, had 2 big away days at Spurs and Arsenal and had a 31k gate up the Ricoh. Made approx 1.5 mill in Bigi and Keogh sales (possibly more in sales from add ons with Gunnar and Turner both being promoted) and barely paid a transfer fee then the accounts for the last year may look more pleasing than in previous years
The losing 500k a month was said ages ago under Ranson
If you look at the last 12 months, considering we haven't paid any rent, cut wages a lot on coming down to league 1, had 2 big away days at Spurs and Arsenal and had a 31k gate up the Ricoh. Made approx 1.5 mill in Bigi and Keogh sales (possibly more in sales from add ons with Gunnar and Turner both being promoted) and barely paid a transfer fee then the accounts for the last year may look more pleasing than in previous years
i still cant believe that with all sisu's cost cutting, we are losing much money.
say we get 10k avr attendance times £15 say.
thats 150k per match, so for 23 home games, that's £3,450,000
now players wages, say our avr wage is £3,000 pw, times 22 players, for 52 weeks, that's £3,432,000.
so without all other factors, we make a profit on match tickets vs wages.
so how are we apparently losing 500k a month?
To be fair 31k at £5 a head is actually marginally less than an average 10.8k league match at approx £15 per head. Also we wouldn't have got the whole £1.5m up front for Keogh and bigi.
But I take your point, we couldn't have been far from breakeven this season.
OSB knows what he is doing. Makes sense to me. Would the club have to pay for transport for fans as part of any deal agreed with the football league? Over the course of a year, a mini bus, petrol and some snacks could add up...
Ive used OSB's figures and tried to calculate what happens in two other scenarios - namely play at the Ricoh and play at the Ricoh with new owners. Both very unlikely but did it to show how much more SISU are willing to finance in their seeming determination to play outside of the city.
I can't get the spreadsheet to upload, but the main points are;
Play at Ricoh
Increase matchday income to around £2.8 million, due to increased gates of £7,000. This assumes some will boycott but allows for more support as we will have a greater budget for wages.
Added another £50K to shop sales for additional sales due to remaining in the city.
Wages can increase to £2.3 million.
Overall losses are down from £1.7 million to £1.3 million
New Owners
Increase matchday income to around £2.8 million, due to increased gates of 11,500. This assumes no boycott and allows for more support as some fans will return and greater success as we will have a greater budget for wages.
Added another £75K to shop sales for additional sales due to optimism of new start.
Wages can increase to £3.2 million.
Overall losses are down from £1.7 million to £700K, if all the extra income goes on contracts. You could make smaller losses by cutting the wages.
So, around £400,000 to make a point. Assuming ACL would let them back in of of course.
How is income of £2.8m for gates of 7k and 11.5k? Bit confused SBS
This is wild guessimating
Not really Paxman. Its called projections and forecasting. Something I've done numerous times for companies. Guessing OSB has too.
Surprising how accurate you can be...
Using the same figures as the original post. Just increasing the attendances/matchday receipts.
Do you pay VAT on tickets?
Yes, you do pay VAT
Wish you hadn't posted that, a trip through CJ Parkers mind is just an invitation to madness.
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