So now we know (6 Viewers)

ccfcway said:

The options have been available but I haven’t read them.

Not disagreeing with you, but by and large, the average fair weather fan isn’t as informed as a couple of hundred who are all over this

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My point is that for years, some of these people have been talking like they are.

Nick said:

My point is that for years, some of these people have been talking like they are.

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Same as for years people have been talking like they are would be managers. Its the internet. Everyone’s an expert

on holiday so only reading bits and bobs, who Delaware north?

I have something else to ponder on today...

Where is the Trust's statement in all this?

This is why we need the Trust. To put pressure on all sides.

It does seem to be very lopsided when it comes to asking critical question about Coventry City Council and this whole fiasco.

This is why a new slate is needed on the Trust's board to challenge everyone.

I would expect the same media exposure for the Trust from all the local media whomever the current or future board members may be.

Philosorapter said:

I have something else to ponder on today...

Where is the Trust's statement in all this?

This is why we need the Trust. To put pressure on all sides.

It does seem to be very lopsided when it comes to asking critical question about Coventry City Council and this whole fiasco.

This is why a new slate is needed on the Trust's board to challenge everyone.

I would expect the same media exposure from all the local media whomever the current or future board members may be.

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"We need to stop looking at the past and to the future"

Until it is said SISU have done something wrong.

Philosorapter said:

Where is the Trust's statement in all this?

This is why we need the Trust. To put pressure on all sides.

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Grendel said:

No this is the family of solicitors PWKH

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Ahh! The ones that stitched up the Higgs Trust vote.

That’s another story!!


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shepardo01 said:

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TBF that blog is shite and clearly had a chip on its shoulder. Classic green pen stuff.

BigadamL said:

on holiday so only reading bits and bobs, who Delaware north?

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Caterers.

shmmeee said:

TBF that blog is shite and clearly had a chip on its shoulder. Classic green pen stuff.

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Shock, you try to make out it's made up.

I can see why he would have been harassed, look at the member on here having somebody going to his employers because they dared to question the council.

The council have previous for harassment when people speak out.

Philosorapter said:

I have something else to ponder on today...

Where is the Trust's statement in all this?

This is why we need the Trust. To put pressure on all sides.

It does seem to be very lopsided when it comes to asking critical question about Coventry City Council and this whole fiasco.

This is why a new slate is needed on the Trust's board to challenge everyone.

I would expect the same media exposure for the Trust from all the local media whomever the current or future board members may be.

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From 5 days ago, still pretty relevant:

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Coventry City playing at St Andrews again – this is a disaster. How can two businesses who have common financial and other interests in having Coventry City play in the City of Coventry fail to come to an agreement on a matter of huge personal and cultural concern not only to their ‘customers’ but the wider population of the City and beyond?

The contradictory statements of both Wasps and CCFC agree on one thing - that a deal that was mutually beneficial commercially was on the cards. The rest of the potential deal is clouded in mystery and protected by a Non Disclosure Agreement.

Despite CCFC's insistence that they did and Wasps insistence that they did not, did Wasps require some form of guarantee against potential losses from SISU's European action against Coventry City Council?

Or demand that in return for a rental agreement SISU gives up the rights that they have under the law no matter what arises in the future?

If so we know the arguments here. In the event that the European courts were to find in SISU's favour in the matter of the Complaint, doubtless after rounds of Appeals, this would be years down the line and the judgement would not in any case be affected by where Coventry City FC are playing. And a requirement to give up legal rights in the event of unknown and unknowable future issues arising would be totally unreasonable and irrational.

As we have long argued, the financial and reputational benefits to Wasps of letting the City play at the Ricoh are immense, and the broader costs to them of being seen as the party who have forced the Sky Blues out of the City - because that's many how people will see it - will be heavy.

But if Wasps did not make such demands this time round, what have SISU to gain from apparently walking out on the negotiations?

Not short term financial gain, save the immediate sale of season tickets - it is inconceivable that Coventry City are better off from a commercial point of view at St Andrews at this time, which begs the question what are SISU's longer term interests? Creating pressure - making the Ricoh a cheap empty stadium and increasing the pressure on Wasps in these Covid-19 affected financial times?

So the question is, with the possibility of the Warwick University arrangement and all the opportunities that that arrangement might potentially bring, why would the football club walk away from a short term mutually beneficial deal at the Ricoh arena at this time?

In the absence of answers to all of these questions, what then is to be done?

Demonstrations and protests may vent the anger and frustration that so many City fans feel if they were to be well supported and there was agreement about at whom and where they were to be targeted. But surely there has to be a role for the "third-party" Coventry City Council here. Subsequent to leasing the Ricoh to Wasps, the Council have been extremely reluctant to take any role in matters to do with SISU and the stadium, or, indeed, Wasps. Given that they have been the subject of two failed Judicial Reviews and an EU complaint brought by SISU, and are responsible for planning matters to do with a new stadium in Coventry (if that idea has not now been superceded), the Council's reticence is in some ways understandable. However,as we have put to the council in meetings in the past, this is no longer accepatable when the very future of CCFC is at stake. Councils have wider responsibilities than dustbins and taxes - they have the duty and powers to foster and enhance the well being of their communities. Coventry City FC is an integral part of the community and culture of our city. The Ricoh is a publicly owned asset, albeit currently leased to a private company, and would revert to the Council in the event of the lease being broken or the current encumbent wanting to leave. In the end, the stadium is effectivelty ours.

Nobody seriously expects the Council to tear up the leasing agreement with Wasps. What it is not unreasonable to expect, though, is that the City Council raise serious questions about whether that stadium is being used to the detriment of one of our city's major cultural institutions. The people of Coventry, and City fans in particular, may well be completely fed up with the strategies and actions of the Club's owners and the intransegence of Wasps. What they are not fed up with is Coventry City Football Club. The Club is of vital importance still to the people of Coventry and that fact alone justifies intervention by the community's representatives into this damaging and destructive affair. The people of Coventry expect and deserve nothing less.”

shepardo01 said:

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Then he should show the supposed threatening email

Nick said:

Shock, you try to make out it's made up.

I can see why he would have been harassed, look at the member on here having somebody going to his employers because they dared to question the council.

The council have previous for harassment when people speak out.

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Mate that guy is a crank.

If you’ve got evidence of the council committing crimes I’d suggest you report it here: Home

shmmeee said:

Mate that guy is a crank.

If you’ve got evidence of the council committing crimes I’d suggest you report it here: Home

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Where did i say crimes? I said they have previous of harassment.

That's factual.

You are getting so fucking boring telling everybody they are wrong when you have no clue every single time. It's like a go to, have a fucking rest from it.

shepardo01 said:

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Guessing that if true is a response to his earlier tweet

Nick said:

Where did i say crimes? I said they have previous of harassment.

That's factual.

You are getting so fucking boring telling everybody they are wrong when you have no clue every single time. It's like a go to, have a fucking rest from it.

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Harassment is a crime. And it doesn’t have to be criminal to report it to the LAO.

Maybe stop believing everything cos you opened your mind so far your brain fell out.

You’re welcome to ignore my posts, you don’t have to reply to every single one.

shmmeee said:

Mate that guy is a crank.

If you’ve got evidence of the council committing crimes I’d suggest you report it here: Home

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How's the fire fighting going on over there...

I hate to say but it like you are throwing petrol on everything

shmmeee said:

Check what you can do about harassment

Check if the harassment is discrimination under the Equality Act 2010, and if you can take legal action about it.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk

Harassment is a crime. And it doesn’t have to be criminal to report it to the LAO.

Maybe stop believing everything cos you opened your mind so far your brain fell out.

You’re welcome to ignore my posts, you don’t have to reply to every single one.

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But it was reported and confirmed, they had to pay out?

Thanks for the info though. As I said, I don't say things like that without checking.

You should try it before claiming conspiracy in every, fucking, thread.

Philosorapter said:

How's the fire fighting going on over there...

I hate to say but it like you are throwing petrol on everything

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Nick said:

But it was reported and confirmed, they had to pay out?

Thanks for the info though. As I said, I don't say things like that without checking.

You should try it before claiming conspiracy in every, fucking, thread.

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Where have I called this a conspiracy? If you could hold off just making up shit about me and doing passive agressive posts like a chavvy mum on Facebook maybe that’d help? Every. Fucking. Thread.

jordan210 said:

Guessing that if true is a response to his earlier tweet

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He does have a knack of popping tweets up, then deleting them... His profile and previous track record does also suggest a grudge. He wouldn't be my first choice for reliable news, tbh. Like many things, he throws enough out sometimes he catches a fish, but it'd probably be cheaper and quicker for him to pop to Tesco then spend all the cash on bait.

shmmeee said:

Check what you can do about harassment

Check if the harassment is discrimination under the Equality Act 2010, and if you can take legal action about it.

www.citizensadvice.org.uk

Harassment is a crime. And it doesn’t have to be criminal to report it to the LAO.

Maybe stop believing everything cos you opened your mind so far your brain fell out.

You’re welcome to ignore my posts, you don’t have to reply to every single one.

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Wasn't Jayne Innes put in charge of answering the harassment issues at Coventry City Council.

How did that go?

shmmeee said:

Where have I called this a conspiracy? If you could hold off just making up shit about me and doing passive agressive posts like a chavvy mum on Facebook maybe that’d help? Every. Fucking. Thread.

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Ironic really considering you have been doing that for about 5 days solid, since it came out that Wasps and CCC might not be so innocent.

I'm not stupid enough to say things like that without knowing exactly what I am on about.

Philosorapter said:

Wasn't Jayne Innes put in charge of answering the harassment issues at Coventry City Council.

How did that go?

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lol!!

Deleted member 5849 said:

He does have a knack of popping tweets up, then deleting them... His profile and previous track record does also suggest a grudge. He wouldn't be my first choice for reliable news, tbh. Like many things, he throws enough out sometimes he catches a fish, but it'd probably be cheaper and quicker for him to pop to Tesco then spend all the cash on bait.

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Think he must know somebody inside as he does seem to have a habit of sharing emails. He did the other day and I think it was him who posted Duggins saying something in an email about needing a statement and being a bit worried.

I don't think it's always him deleting stuff, his account keeps getting taken down a lot too. He mostly seems to hammer them about parking and road signs all the time. Exactly the type of person we have needed going at the council to be fair.

Nick said:

Exactly the type of person we have needed going at the council to be fair.

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Trust me, I've met people like that and it really isn't!

Eventually it becomes white noise.

Philosorapter said:

Wasn't Jayne Innes put in charge of answering the harassment issues at Coventry City Council.

How did that go?

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Read the website. It’s an independent ombudsman who handles complaints about councils when you aren’t happy with the council response.

Seriously. I’m telling you what to do next and you’re all so fucking obsessed with some weird view of me you aren’t taking it.

Laughable. Just like when I wrote half of Pete’s Fucking statement then got lambasted as not supporting it because I disagreed with slating the media and other fans as a smart strategy. Just like when I rang up and questioned Linnell about the indemnity when Pete was on. Just like I posted an entire fucking campaign strategy for how to pressure councillors in the local elections.

Literally help you out even when I don’t agree with you and yet you get so triggered just by my username. Crack on. Ban me or block me, I’m not going to stop posting about CCFC after twenty years because a few snowflakes don’t like being challenged.

And again, not me who has derailed this. But people who can’t read and have to have a pop.

Deleted member 5849 said:

Trust me, I've met people like that and it really isn't!

Eventually it becomes white noise.

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It's not just him when he's getting Adjudicators and Panels going against the council too.

Looks like a pain in their arse.

KovBlog (Richard Heneghan) does seem to hold a grudge but does post plenty of documented evidence of CCC wrongdoing. I take the throwaway comments with a sizeable pinch of salt mind.

shmmeee said:

Read the website. It’s an independent ombudsman who handles complaints about councils when you aren’t happy with the council response.

Seriously. I’m telling you what to do next and you’re all so fucking obsessed with some weird view of me you aren’t taking it.

Laughable. Just like when I wrote half of Pete’s Fucking statement then got lambasted as not supporting it because I disagreed with slating the media and other fans as a smart strategy. Just like when I rang up and questioned Linnell about the indemnity when Pete was on. Just like I posted an entire fucking campaign strategy for how to pressure councillors in the local elections.

Literally help you out even when I don’t agree with you and yet you get so triggered just by my username. Crack on. Ban me or block me, I’m not going to stop posting about CCFC after twenty years because a few snowflakes don’t like being challenged.

And again, not me who has derailed this. But people who can’t read and have to have a pop.

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You didn't agree with it.

Do you even know what he is referring to with Innes and Harassment?

It is you who is seemingly triggered, mostly about stuff you never seem to have a clue about as well.

Nick said:

You didn't agree with it.

Do you even know what he is referring to with Innes and Harassment?

It is you who is seemingly triggered, mostly about stuff you never seem to have a clue about as well.

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Innes is a disgrace

Deleted member 5849 said:

Trust me, I've met people like that and it really isn't!

Eventually it becomes white noise.

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Green pen brigade. Councillors just tune them out. Aligning yourself with cranks is a bad strategy. Anyway I’m out before someone takes this as me claiming a conspiracy theory

shmmeee said:

Read the website. It’s an independent ombudsman who handles complaints about councils when you aren’t happy with the council response.

Seriously. I’m telling you what to do next and you’re all so fucking obsessed with some weird view of me you aren’t taking it.

Laughable. Just like when I wrote half of Pete’s Fucking statement then got lambasted as not supporting it because I disagreed with slating the media and other fans as a smart strategy. Just like when I rang up and questioned Linnell about the indemnity when Pete was on. Just like I posted an entire fucking campaign strategy for how to pressure councillors in the local elections.

Literally help you out even when I don’t agree with you and yet you get so triggered just by my username. Crack on. Ban me or block me, I’m not going to stop posting about CCFC after twenty years because a few snowflakes don’t like being challenged.

And again, not me who has derailed this. But people who can’t read and have to have a pop.

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Nothing going to be derailed when going to this masterpiece by one of my favourite councillors.


The anonymous letter I still have knocking around somewhere.

Tis being saved for a rainy day.

I'm sure everyone would like to have a read of it.

shmmeee said:

Green pen brigade. Councillors just tune them out. Aligning yourself with cranks is a bad strategy. Anyway I’m out before someone takes this as me claiming a conspiracy theory

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Wasn't it him who posted the email the other day about the council not letting councillors say anything?

There is some useful stuff released sometimes, there's no denying that.