It won't be anywhere near that. Free Amazon prime for the whole season and a 4k flatscreen telly thrown in .Enough. More than people who go to away games only, funding our competitors.
Are you going to travel away anytime this season?Enough. More than people who go to away games only, funding our competitors.
Will be interesting to see if the status quo is maintained the season after this if we remain at St Andrews all season long. I think that the budget will then be cut accordingly.So much for all the people saying Robins won't be able to sign anybody because of playing at St.Andrews.
Theres no Status Quo without Rick Parfitt.Will be interesting to see if the status quo is maintained the season after this if we remain at St Andrews all season long. I think that the budget will then be cut accordingly.
Almost certainly not.Are you going to travel away anytime this season?
Signings look positive so far. As per normal they will be a mixed bag but hopefully there will be more gold than shite.
As for SISU backing Robins and covering the shortfall it will just be more debt added to what we already owe them, they aren't just going to gift it.
Spoken like a true sceptic. SISU have done wrong but have also been backed against a wall in many respects.
I would love to read the sort of comment you would have made had we signed no one. The expression of dammed if u do and dammed if you don't spring to mind when I read this type of negative bilge.
Your seat as per they will be a mixed bag?? Really based on what or is that a lazy and presumptuous slur on some of our signings.
That is correct, also I would say five of the ones who have left Sterling, Bright, Thomas, Davis and if he goes Willis were arguably our best and most consistent players takes a bit of doing to replace them all with better players but let’s give them all a fair chance.Maybe you missed the first line???
Signings are always a mixed bag. For every Bright, Hiwula and Thomas there is a Brown and Ogogo. Somewhere in the middle are Chaplin Mason and Bakayoko.
Having let 8-10 players go we were always going to sign a similar amount of we wouldn't of had a squad.
This this feels like the most exciting pre-season for years. May come to nothing, but Robins is being allowed to build a squad, earlier than usual. Really feels like he intends to go for it even if we are in exile. The man deserves our support.
Mmmmm.Almost certainly not.
I'm a gardener but I've never heard of a veiny palm tree, and I can't find it in any of my books. Do you have a photo?Fuckaduck. There’s no pleasing some people.
I’m not shaking coconuts from my veiny palm tree about who we’re signing. It’s just good to see, that despite everything, ownership are backing Robins. It’s now down to him to get them (and whoever else comes in) ready.
Not sure why your mmmming. My money will go to support my team, not someone else’s. I went to Donny last season but I don’t particularly enjoy being randomly placed in a stadium with noisy drunken coked up kids.Will you be going away?
Mmmmm.
Just curious but who has actually said that SISU are backing Robins? Is it not possible that Robins is still spending the Maddison windfall and he’s actually just spending money that CCFC has created itself?
Yeah m8. He could’ve won a scratch-off an-all
Do you think? Possibly more likely than SISU investing in the team so you could be on to something.
SISU publicly stated that despite the move to SA, Robins would have the same budget and I think that's fair. I know they have a track record of not keeping their word, but I imagine they're expecting a windfall from Wilson at some point and I still fully expect Bayliss to be sold either now or in January. I also assume Robins had to have certain assurances for him to stay and if we can get his targets as we seem to, then I see no reason for him to jump ship. He obviously trusts his scouting network to as he was quoted as guaranteeing we'd have a better squad this season than last - exciting times hopefully!Just curious but who has actually said that SISU are backing Robins? Is it not possible that Robins is still spending the Maddison windfall and he’s actually just spending money that CCFC has created itself?
SISU publicly stated that despite the move to SA, Robins would have the same budget and I think that's fair. I know they have a track record of not keeping their word, but I imagine they're expecting a windfall from Wilson at some point and I still fully expect Bayliss to be sold either now or in January. I also assume Robins had to have certain assurances for him to stay and if we can get his targets as we seem to, then I see no reason for him to jump ship. He obviously trusts his scouting network to as he was quoted as guaranteeing we'd have a better squad this season than last - exciting times hopefully!
If that was the case even on much higher income last season why did they have to provide further loans to support the business?
They could have used any transfer income to offset debt. If they haven’t done that then they have chosen to invest in the team.Although I agree with you 100% it still doesn’t mean that SISU are investing in the team which seems to the assumption from the thread title. It’s a small point I know but SISU letting Robins spend the money generated by the club itself wether that be sponsorship, prize money, merchandise sales, ticket sales or indeed monies received from transfers is not the same as SISU backing the Robins, they’re merely not pulling the rug from under his feet.
On the subject of Wilson I see that apparently West Ham are supposed to be lining up a £35M offer for him.
Now that they have the club running day to day in a much better fashion than when they took over if we could get promotion to the Championship we'd be an attractive takeover prospect. Of course that would require the ground issue to be resolved which doesn't seem likely anytime soon.But there are two big caveats. The risk and reward of funding a Championship teams is a much bigger kettle of fish. It costs £30-40m a year for the prospect of playing in the Prem or alternatively attracting a buyer - a gamble that does not look to be the SISU style.
My concern is any funding gap is anticipating just this scenario and / or further trickle down from Maddison. It wouldn't be unheard of for there to be a bridging loan given atm to fund the gap, which would need to be paid off, with interest.but I imagine they're expecting a windfall from Wilson at some point and I still fully expect Bayliss to be sold either now or in January.
My concern is any funding gap is anticipating just this scenario and / or further trickle down from Maddison. It wouldn't be unheard of for there to be a bridging loan given atm to fund the gap, which would need to be paid off, with interest.
If (and tbf it's an if that's just idle speculation so far) it would show the amazing inefficiency and detrimental effect that's been the consequence of moving away from the Ricoh with only a half-arsed 'plan' in place.Personally I don’t think that’s cause for concern. Shouldn’t be classed as investment though and certainly nothing that doesn’t happen at any club.
The Maddison payments are not public knowledge as far as I know but you seem to be assuming that the Maddison windfall came in one hit. You also seem to have details of yet unpublished accounts. Or presume too.
No I’m assuming that the payment levels are no different this year to last year and every season the club has had to still have funding as since we received payments for him.
The club also has little cash flow to support salaries. Season ticket revenue until last week was non existent and now is at 20% at best of last season
The revenue will be far less this season than last - it’s not possible me to not have external funding to keep the club going
If (and tbf it's an if that's just idle speculation so far) it would show the amazing inefficiency and detrimental effect that's been the consequence of moving away from the Ricoh with only a half-arsed 'plan' in place.
Not unreasonable questions.The subsidy must be eye watering which begs the questions why and for how long?
So you’re talking about short term bridging loans then to bridge gaps in cash flow which are paid back with interest rather than investment. Then making the assumption that this has happened this season even though you clearly haven’t seen unpublished accounts and actually have no idea how any monies from Maddison’s transfer and add on’s (ie payment based on number of appearances, payments based on international call ups etc etc) are payed out. Just like I said then. Thanks for clearing it up.
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