This comes up all the time, and I’m sure there’s a middle ground to be found, but ultimately there’s no point in trying to force a team of nice guys to try and pretend to be horrible bastards. I know there are some fans who enjoy watching players chase the ref around and kick the shit out of each other for 90 minutes, but the fact that we don’t default to The Dark Arts every time doesn’t seem to stop us winning games, so why change it?It’s been mentioned several times before on this forum that we’re too complacent when it comes to defending teammates who are getting roughed up by the opposition. Should our management team be encouraging the players to be more proactive in complaining to the ref about this? Perhaps a Micky Doyle coaching session is required?
Don't be daft. It was an accident. The bloke said so. Why would he lie?
Surely you mean Clive Allen?Still find it so strange Joe Allen walks away with a sunken face but because it was a recorded foul it’s all ok
Surely you mean Clive Allen?
That's what I thought. Disgusting if he meant it the way it sounds.Isn’t that sort of comment bringing the game into disrepute?
Think you’re being a bit precious about it.Isn’t that sort of comment bringing the game into disrepute?
Yep, it’s for the lower leagues. Did Doyle play for another Championship club after leaving us?This comes up all the time, and I’m sure there’s a middle ground to be found, but ultimately there’s no point in trying to force a team of nice guys to try and pretend to be horrible bastards. I know there are some fans who enjoy watching players chase the ref around and kick the shit out of each other for 90 minutes, but the fact that we don’t default to The Dark Arts every time doesn’t seem to stop us winning games, so why change it?
Played about a dozen games for Sheffield United in the year they were relegated to L1. Other than that his career was all L1 or below. Did brilliantly there tbf.Yep, it’s for the lower leagues. Did Doyle play for another Championship club after leaving us?
Words are easy once you've been caught
Don't be daft. It was an accident. The bloke said so. Why would he lie?
But why did he do it in the first place? It looked to me he ran towards saka, elbowed him, and ran away.Agree with a couple of other posters, this is a decent apology which he didn’t have to give, does him credit in my opinion. It’s not as if by apologising he was going to reduce his penalty.
What a load of melodramatic, PR-spun horse shite.
Yes, I’m not saying he was right, and it’s totally right that he was punished, just think the apology and acceptance of the charge gives him some credit. Some won’t agree, fair enough.But why did he do it in the first place? It looked to me he ran towards saka, elbowed him, and ran away.
Isn't he only making the apology because he's been caught though?Yes, I’m not saying he was right, and it’s totally right that he was punished, just think the apology and acceptance of the charge gives him some credit. Some won’t agree, fair enough.
No-one was asking for him to make this apology and I don’t remember any players in similar situations doing so either. Personally I think it’s to his credit that he said something when he didn’t have to, even if it doesn’t justify what happened.Isn't he only making the apology because he's been caught though?
He wouldn't have made that statement if he hadn't have been charged would he.
He didn't apologise at the time did he, or go back to see how Saka was after he was left in a crumpled heap on the ground, or moments later, once play had stopped.
He obviously saw he caught him at the time. Could have at least gone to Sakamoto after and said something, or given him a pat on the shoulder or something.No-one was asking for him to make this apology and I don’t remember any players in similar situations doing so either. Personally I think it’s to his credit that he said something when he didn’t have to, even if it doesn’t justify what happened.
I'll give him credit.Agree with a couple of other posters, this is a decent apology which he didn’t have to give, does him credit in my opinion. It’s not as if by apologising he was going to reduce his penalty.
Because he hadn't been charged with any offence at the time .I'll give him credit.
It was a perfectly timed elbow that the match officials missed.
So why did it take until the EFL got involved and banned him for a few games for any kind of apology to be forthcoming?
I forgot who and which game but I’m sure recently one of our players went to the referee complaining about a challenge on one of our players and immediately received a yellow card.It’s been mentioned several times before on this forum that we’re too complacent when it comes to defending teammates who are getting roughed up by the opposition. Should our management team be encouraging the players to be more proactive in complaining to the ref about this? Perhaps a Micky Doyle coaching session is required?
“Sorry that I elbowed you but it was actually an accident as I meant to elbow you in the chest”I'll give him credit.
It was a perfectly timed elbow that the match officials missed.
So why did it take until the EFL got involved and banned him for a few games for any kind of apology to be forthcoming?
Wow! I don’t recall that incident but compare that to instances when almost an entire team surrounds the ref to contest a decision and no-one is booked. I guess it often depends on the nature of the ‘complaint’. Pointing out to the ref that a colleague is constantly being roughed up without any action being taken would seem to be a legitimate complaint rather than dissent?I forgot who and which game but I’m sure recently one of our players went to the referee complaining about a challenge on one of our players and immediately received a yellow card.
Exactly.Because he hadn't been charged with any offence at the time .
Tbf I’m sure he did go over after when play was stopped for something else.Exactly.
Your elbow is the most dangerous weapon you have. It's like hitting someone with a hammer. A weapon of last resort. But he used it on a football pitch then acted as though nothing happened. If it was accidental wouldn't he have checked the player is OK?
When Tats was eventually back up?Tbf I’m sure he did go over after when play was stopped for something else.
Exactly that. He didn't seem at all bothered at the time did he. It's only after he had been charged that he's suddenly become remorsefulExactly.
Your elbow is the most dangerous weapon you have. It's like hitting someone with a hammer. A weapon of last resort. But he used it on a football pitch then acted as though nothing happened. If it was accidental wouldn't he have checked the player is OK?
I didn't see that. If he showed remorse at the time, that makes the statement much more acceptable.Tbf I’m sure he did go over after when play was stopped for something else.
Isn't he only making the apology because he's been caught though?
He wouldn't have made that statement if he hadn't have been charged would he.
He didn't apologise at the time did he, or go back to see how Saka was after he was left in a crumpled heap on the ground, or moments later, once play had stopped.
He did but I'm still not going to congratulate him for it. The cynic in me says he meant to do it and is only sorry he got caught. There was no need for his elbow to be so high. That's why they had no choice but to find him guilty.I tend to agree. But on the flip side, not all players go on social media to make apologies, even if they've been caught.
Exactly this. Especially the last point; referees and officials are just not protecting our key players, and they’re having lumps kicked and elbowed off them.He did but I'm still not going to congratulate him for it. The cynic in me says he meant to do it and is only sorry he got caught. There was no need for his elbow to be so high. That's why they had no choice but to find him guilty.
Tats and O'Hare have become targets. One of them could get seriously hurt if it continues.
Can’t believe they’ve been ignoredThe comments of the Norwich manager need the fullest investigation, analysis and examination of officials performance!
Yup. Very puzzling.Can’t believe they’ve been ignored
Complete wanker or is it pronounced WagnerYup. Very puzzling.
What comments did he make?The comments of the Norwich manager need the fullest investigation, analysis and examination of officials performance!
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