not what happened, the "protestors" started pushing and shoving the policeDepends on what you've seen. I saw posts from a lot of the more moderate who said the policing was random and they let a lot of stuff go and took out bystanders. If I'd not spent the last 30 years watching similar stuff at football, I'd call them out for lying, but can well believe it with the met and some of the footage on X did look a bit heavy handed and ott. Were there racisst - absolutely and stirring the pot, but also lots who were with them for at least what they perceived as valid reasoning.
now, there's a press conference that started at 4When do the Gov't actually speak to this?
The same as the hundreds of pockets of left wingers who are more than up to cause trouble ?Maybe, but all this isn't just down to Chinese or Russian bots. Or the BBC or whatever. Some of our right-wing politicians such as Farage, Tice, Anderson need to take some responsibility. There are hundreds of pockets of right-wingers who are more than up to cause trouble. They don't need anyone in St Petersberg to egg them on.
Absolutely. There are trouble makers regardless of their political allegiances.The same as the hundreds of pockets of left wingers who are more than up to cause trouble ?
So rob is wrong then, because what he says doesn't fit with what you want to believe.not what happened, the "protestors" started pushing and shoving the police
valid reason? shouting "stop the boats" even after we know the person was from Cardiff? Nah mate
That includes here. This is a social media platform
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Agree, double edged sword. However, the Government and Police have to act. We can't have gangs of right-wingers and hate groups roaming around the country setting things alight and not expect there to be consequences.Fair few worrying civil rights infringements in there but I suppose that's what happens when people start acting the arse.
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Agree, double edged sword. However, the Government and Police have to act. We can't have gangs of right-wingers and hate groups roaming around the country setting things alight and not expect there to be consequences.
Not sure what the issue is, Nick. Who were kicking off in Westminster last night? Hartlepool and Southport?I mean you could have said "gangs roaming around the country setting things alight and not expect there to be consequences", surely?
Unless of course you only want it to be used when it's particular people kicking off and not everybody?
Not sure what the issue is, Nick. Who were kicking off in Westminster last night? Hartlepool and Southport?
I think only a crown court judge can lift the reporting ban so the case would have to be committed to crown court first. You wouldn't be surprised if they decide not to lift the ban given the potential for harm to the family.The Bulger killers were named and a lot younger, not sure how long it took though
Hope Starmer's new unit includes mini tanks or robots that automatically fires bricks to the nads of racists
Blimey. YOU accusing others of having a strange take! Marvellous. Maybe I should have had a check list of different groups/races/religions to keep you happy. After all, you run a tight ship here, don't you? Nothing untoward allowed...I'm just saying surely you would want it to be used on any gangs kicking off regardless of their political views, colour or religion?
Course you don't, have doubled down on your very strange take.
With a government film unit so they can upload it to Twitter. That should really be edited so it includes lots of different groups, eh Nick?Hope Starmer's new unit includes mini tanks or robots that automatically fires bricks to the nads of racists
His name had already been officially releasedI think only a crown court judge can lift the reporting ban so the case would have to be committed to crown court first. You wouldn't be surprised if they decide not to lift the ban given the potential for harm to the family.
Blimey. YOU accusing others of having a strange take! Marvellous. Maybe I should have had a check list of different groups/races/religions to keep you happy. After all, you run a tight ship here, don't you? Nothing untoward allowed...
You didn't answer the question about who had been kicking off this week setting alight to stuff.
A different group to last week where the authorities were to scared to get involvedBlimey. YOU accusing others of having a strange take! Marvellous. Maybe I should have had a check list of different groups/races/religions to keep you happy. After all, you run a tight ship here, don't you? Nothing untoward allowed...
You didn't answer the question about who had been kicking off this week setting alight to stuff.
With a government film unit so they can upload it to Twitter. That should really be edited so it includes lots of different groups, eh Nick?
It isn't strange. Right-wingers kicked off this week setting fire to stuff, breaking the limbs of policemen, biting dogs. Not Muslims or "lefties" or whatever, so I was talking about them. IT should be used against everyone and if a load of Scottish people kicked off next week in Troon then I would say the same thing. Christ.I am just pointing out it's strange how you are adding conditions about who it should be used against. Like I said, you could have just said used against people kicking off, if somebody said "use that against Muslims or lefties only" then you would have pissed your pants.
I'm saying it should be used on anybody and everybody kicking off regardless.
What are you talking about?A different group to last week where the authorities were to scared to get involved
Weren't you moaning about police brutality on another thread?
It's just as I said, it happens to somebody who is muslim and also a c**t and some people are outraged but it's fair game if it's somebody who is white with a st georges flag who is also a c**t.
Finding it strange that the people who are shouting about tarring with brushes and discrimination the most seem to be all over it when it comes to somebody who is on the right.
I think there is a need to be more robust in downing st as someone has already saidA different group to last week where the authorities were to scared to get involved
What, the Roma' s kicking off and setting buses alight, police running away because of lack of resources and probably told to stand down, then the Pakistani Muslims at the airport fighting police officers and breaking there bones, then marching down to the police station mob handed where police released them to calm the situation. That's what I'm about!What are you talking about?
Oh yeah because my post about a mini robot that fires bricks was deadly serious.
It isn't strange. Right-wingers kicked off this week setting fire to stuff, breaking the limbs of policemen, biting dogs. Not Muslims or "lefties" or whatever, so I was talking about them. IT should be used against everyone and if a load of Scottish people kicked off next week in Troon then I would say the same thing. Christ.
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