Ah ok but we need a right back anyway as Joel isn't a great option there , and we need to buy new centre halves anyway as again joel isn't a great option there
Don't think he's terrible , I just think he's average at everything , good at nothingPersonally I don’t think he’s as terrible as you do, but regardless that’s two players to replace him, which is what I said!
Don't think he's terrible , I just think he's average at everything , good at nothing
Which is perfect for a utility player. Will be happy to fill in, won’t let you down. If we sold him we’d need to buy another one of him in really. In fact if we don’t I’d be looking for a left sided version like Styles because of the in game flexibility it gives us, not to mention making a limited wage bill go further.
Styles been awful at Sunderland, although he'd probably be better here
Some people were saying we would be lucky to get 8M to 10M for Vik before his saleHes not worth the 10 im seeing banded abour
Players can’t win lol.Also, people take this piss about fan engagement, but with the old guard leaving, and new fans arriving without the hard times giving them a more personal link to the club, I wouldn’t knock having a player who keeps that going. The closeness of fans and players has been a key ingredient to our success and the higher you go the harder it is to keep going with higher paid players and newer, more expectant fans.
I’m not saying keep or sign players just for good PR, but recognise its importance.
Players can’t win lol.
Some get criticised for leaning in to the fan stuff.
Then Simms gets shit for not celebrating/acknowledging fans enough.
I’d never criticise someone for engaging with fans, unless it’s truly egregious.
Glad it's not just me that has noticed his strange running style. Very un-footballer like!Struggling to believe this tbh , runs like he wears calipers
Ah, ok then. Since your argument is so compelling and laden with rational points.He’s absolutely shite and completely overrated
People saying he's average/awful etc...
If he's that average/awful, why are the likes of Sporting Lisbon and Ajax potentially keen on him? What do they see that those who see him as average/awful don't??
which positions is he capable of playing? do not say CDM, we were better with Kelly in the team.He can capably play several positions, that alone makes him invaluable. We’d probably have to sign at least two players to replace him. Also more of a threat at set pieces that the two massive CBs are, and clearly an important personality around the club as he’s been captain before “he looks hard so must be a leader” Kitching.
Think people wildly underrate his importance to the squad tbh.
I'D drive him to the airport for £2.5m.£10m is excessive, but some on here want to drive him to the airport for £2.5m.
Incredible.
which positions is he capable of playing? do not say CDM, we were better with Kelly in the team.
Do we have any reliable links??? or just chip paper rumoursPeople saying he's average/awful etc...
If he's that average/awful, why are the likes of Sporting Lisbon and Ajax potentially keen on him? What do they see that those who see him as average/awful don't??
RB and RWB LOL. When has he had a good game at RWBlol. I’ll say it cos it’s true but also RB, RWB, CB.
When's the last time you had chips?Do we have any reliable links??? or just chip paper rumours
black country museum mate. great orange chips.When's the last time you had chips?
RB and RWB LOL. When has he had a good game at RWB
Maybe criticising is the wrong word but people often use it as a stick to beat players with- eg Wilson, Biamou etc.Not sure anybody is criticising fan engagement from lati
Right, so if he plays bad, but has played in that position hes a utility player?I’m not sure you’re grasping the point of a utility player
Right, so if he plays bad, but has played in that position hes a utility player?
Disagree with that, "good at nothing" is nonsense. Is he spectacular? No, but he's a good solid utility player. I like him.Don't think he's terrible , I just think he's average at everything , good at nothing
Disagree with that, "good at nothing" is nonsense. Is he spectacular? No, but he's a good solid utility player. I like him.
Would he get into a top 6 team. Absolutely not.Obviously some people will like him , personally I think we need better
Would he get into a top 6 team. Absolutely not.
Agree with this. He suffers in some people's eyes because he plays in a range of positions, which aren'this best. However he was one of the best players at the beginning of the season on the left side of the back three. He is better than Binks.He’s a better centre half than Binks who people want us to pay a fee for in the summer. Thats before you mention what he offers in other positions.
Well they obviously didn't want to keep him as otherwise they would.He was virtually ever present (when fit) for a side that finished 10th last year, and who wanted to keep him, and is now virtually ever present in a side pushing for the top 6. All these appearances in various positions..
He’s obviously not a brilliant CB, RB and DM, because if he was he’d be in the Premier League.
But he’s a very solid Championship player capable of perming well in all three of those positions, and that is worth a lot.
He turned down their contract offer.Well they obviously didn't want to keep him as otherwise they would.
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