Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike rugby, or people who watch it, or even Wasps. I've said elsewhere I don't have a problem with their ownership of the Ricoh or the way that came about. It's just that I personally have no interest at all in going, and wanted to see who else on here feels differently. The main point is trying to figure out how many current or ex CCFC fans go to Wasps games.Why is it never enough for some people just to like something, such as watching the Sky Blues? Why the need to make a point of disliking something else and belittling the people that follow that sport?
I like football and rugby and cricket and other sports. I'll be watching the Six Nations in the NY. Sorry if that means that somehow some people think that means I don't really like football.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike rugby, or people who watch it, or even Wasps. I've said elsewhere I don't have a problem with their ownership of the Ricoh or the way that came about. It's just that I personally have no interest at all in going, and wanted to see who else on here feels differently. The main point is trying to figure out how many current or ex CCFC fans go to Wasps games.
Any person from Coventry that goes to Wasps games is contemptible.
The fact is there are loads of local rugby clubs you could support; Coventry, Broadstreet, Earlsdon, Barkers.....Well that's it in a nutshell and that should end the thread right there. If you are interested in rugby go and support Coventry Rugby Club.
Yeah, guess it must be down to different concepts of loyalty, otherwise I just don't get it.The fact is there are loads of local rugby clubs you could support; Coventry, Broadstreet, Earlsdon, Barkers.....
However I do feel the concepts of club loyalty are slightly different between Football and Rugby. The bottom line is people can have their own principles but it comes down to freedom of choice.
I had my reasons for not going to Northampton, some fans chose to go....and I respected their freedom of choice to go. Yes there were reasons not to go, but 'I just want to support my team whatever' was also a good reason to go.
There is no obligation to support Coventry City or Coventry Rugby or Wasps. Self promotion has been driven by complacency at Coventry City and Coventry Rugby in the past. Rowland Winter is a breath of fresh air at Coventry Rugby and has really opened up communication with the fans backed by Chairman John Sharpe and business manager Lara Hunter. The club really has some momentum going and everyone involved feels part of it.
Fisher and Seppala should look and learn. I have often said on here it is not what SISU have done more the way they go about it that is at fault. They have missed opportunity after opportunity to engage the fans and get them on board.
Fans also have a part to play in promoting their own club and bringing in new customers. But just slagging off the opposition is a promotional campaign doomed to failure.
Yeah, guess it must be down to different concepts of loyalty, otherwise I just don't get it.
Coventry City supporters can't be supporting the club because of the glory years, cos there hasn't been any since the mid 1960's, so I assume people are City fans because this is there home town club.
And that's why I can't get my head around people being Coventry people, supporting Coventry City, liking rugby, but then choosing Wasps over their own local club.
It's a headshaker for me.
How do you know its around 12000?Not really. If a big football club moved into the area plenty would go and see it. They wouldn’t have the same loyalty but they would see it.
In the end wasps paying fan base on average is around 12,000 a game if you strip out frees, free concessions and away following . They’ve clearly not sold many season tickets as slimeball Eastwood would be all over the media if they had.
It’s premier league rugby so it’s average. There’s always big games that attract some higher levels but that’s the level they are at. It’s lower lever championship football size averages.
How do you know its around 12000?
Yeah, guess it must be down to different concepts of loyalty, otherwise I just don't get it.
Coventry City supporters can't be supporting the club because of the glory years, cos there hasn't been any since the mid 1960's, so I assume people are City fans because this is their home town club.
And that's why I can't get my head around people being Coventry people, supporting Coventry City, liking rugby, but then choosing Wasps over their own local club.
It's a headshaker for me.
I get signs that you're posting one of your estimated definate facts,Oh look someone’s batphone was on the alert.
The average is 15,000 - they give free tickets and we are told by the club itself that a large percentage are younger children - who are allowed in free.
If anything it’s an over estimate.
But that wouldn't make it right would it and we'd still be mightily peed off if Man U came here and people suddenly started supporting Man U.Not really. If a big football club moved into the area plenty would go and see it. They wouldn’t have the same loyalty but they would see it.
In the end wasps paying fan base on average is around 12,000 a game if you strip out frees, free concessions and away following . They’ve clearly not sold many season tickets as slimeball Eastwood would be all over the media if they had.
It’s premier league rugby so it’s average. There’s always big games that attract some higher levels but that’s the level they are at. It’s lower lever championship football size averages.
The football fans I know who have converted to rugby are going to Coventry Rugby, which fits your mindset and I have to say mine.
The people I know who have chosen to adopt Wasps or at least pick and choose games are either new converts (who don't particularly like football as a sport or just don't like the fan mentality) or existing rugby fans. Their reasons seems to be ' its a chance to watch top flight rugby.'
I get signs that you're posting one of your estimated definate facts,
Have never been to wasps don't go to trust meetingsI get signs that you seem very defensive when a negative is posted about a certain nomadic rugby club.
Has Nicky promised some freebies at the next trust meeting?
Which is where the whole project is interesting... on an objective level.Majority that have gone over to Wasps that I know were/are very casual sports fans the sort that would take great excitement out of a Mexican wave or waving a flag.
Why is it never enough for some people just to like something, such as watching the Sky Blues? Why the need to make a point of disliking something else and belittling the people that follow that sport?
I like football and rugby and cricket and other sports. I'll be watching the Six Nations in the NY. Sorry if that means that somehow some people think that means I don't really like football.
none of the replies previous to this post disparaged Rugby, just Wasps.
I'm not sure why you mentioned the 6 nation, I'd wager most of us follow it and catch coverage of at least a couple of games when it's on. This is purely about the antics of another out of town hedge fund.
'By moving to Coventry, Wasps have told their fans they don't matter'
I agree with your sentiment but plenty of Cov people (majority probably) that are into football choose other teams over CCFC. Why would rugby be any different?But that wouldn't make it right would it and we'd still be mightily peed off if Man U came here and people suddenly started supporting Man U.
I personally think that anyone who is from Cov and likes rugby, but chooses Wasps over Cov, is kicking Cov rugby in the teeth.
For me, this is about respect for other people and live and let live. I have no problem with people who don't like rugby, or who like rugby but don't want to watch Wasps. What I have an objection to is ganging together to cast insults at people who do. It seems to be a fundamental part of some people's nature to single out groups of people doing no harm to others for spite.
Oucho has explained that it was not his intention to do that. OK - but he started a thread where others have done so.
I haven't been to see Wasps and if I'm travelling up to Coventry I'll be seeing my family and the Sky Blues if I can - so I'm unlikely to go to watch Wasps - but I defend the right of others to go without 'contempt'.
I would agree.I find them being here contemptible to be honest.
I will never agree with a sports team been ripped from it's community and plonked miles away and it would be hypocritical of me to do so given my opinion of sisu doing so to us.
I find them being here contemptible to be honest.
I have friends who watch them, though they are, and always have been rugby fans so I try not to be too rude about them.
I will never agree with a sports team been ripped from it's community and plonked miles away and it would be hypocritical of me to do so given my opinion of sisu doing so to us.
Some city fans are pathetic towards Wasps. The blame of our current plight lies with Richardson, Robinson and more over SISU. Had a season ticket with city for 25 years before Northampton, haven’t and won’t be back until SISU have gone, as much as it hurts.
Had a season ticket with wasps since they came, they run a club property, treat the fans right and it’s top class rugby on the door step.
I hate what’s happened to city but it’s not wasps fault.
You can disagree with them being here without being nasty about people who don't share your opinion and go there. I find it worrying that many people in this country can no longer disagree with someone without going out of their way to be nasty to them. In my mind it shows a complete lack of respect and empathy.
That's fine.That's fair enough but I don't think they should be here
That's moving towards the line. You don't get to choose what other people do and think.I don't think people from Cov should go and watch them
And that's bounding right over the line, assuming the right to condemn other people who don't think exactly as you do.Any person from Coventry that goes to Wasps games is contemptible.
I know 1 person who should go and see the Wasps judging by comments of son and family .He might learn something about entertaining the punters before, during and after the game. Mr Fisher . When they left well over an hour after the game the exhibition hall was still over half full.
That's moving towards the line. You don't get to choose what other people do and think.
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