The Philosopher
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Sunderland Ratings (3 Viewers)
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SeaSeeEffCee
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Moore 4
Eccles 4
Hyam 7
McFadzean 7
Panzo 8
Bidwell 4
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 4
Gyokeres 7
Godden 5
Palmer 6
Tavares 7
Dabo 7
Walker 6
Eccles 4
Hyam 7
McFadzean 7
Panzo 8
Bidwell 4
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 4
Gyokeres 7
Godden 5
Palmer 6
Tavares 7
Dabo 7
Walker 6
Blind-Faith
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Moore 5
Eccles 5
Hyam 7
McFadzean 7
Panzo 8 motm
Bidwell 5
Hamer 6
Sheaf 7
Allen 5
Gyokeres 8
Godden 5
Palmer 6
Tavares 7
Dabo 7
Walker 6
Eccles 5
Hyam 7
McFadzean 7
Panzo 8 motm
Bidwell 5
Hamer 6
Sheaf 7
Allen 5
Gyokeres 8
Godden 5
Palmer 6
Tavares 7
Dabo 7
Walker 6
lord_garrincha
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Agree on Panzo... his aggressiveness may result in an odd bad'un... but prefer his dynamism than having a plodder like JCS.
Terry_dactyl
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I’d go with these. Maybe Bidwell a 5…didn’t think he was as bad as Allen or Eccles but he was still poor.
I thought Palmer looked like he could be really good.
Decent result given that we weren’t firing on all cylinders.
Harry_Walker
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Moore 5- massive error for their goal but other than that didn’t put a foot wrong
Eccles 3- Absolutely dreadful. Understand he’s out of position but his passing was horrific and positioning was awful
Hyam 6.5- solid performance really but don’t think he was tested that much
Fadz 6- similar to Hyam not really much to do but really hope I never see him try a cross field diagonal again
Panzo 7.5- Good progressive centre half that carried it well throughout, passing not the best at times but looked relatively solid.
Bidwell 5- Very poor for their goal and not good going forward. Was solid defensively after the goal
Hamer 6- Grew as the game went on but think he struggled without the space that O’Hare generates for him
Sheaf 6- Similar to Hamer, got better as the game went on but struggles in the tight spaces
Allen 6- Usual energetic performance from him with some good link up play but think we lacked shape when he was playing as we didn’t have the advanced midfielder and it was more a bank of 3 in the midfield creating congestion
Godden 5.5- Not his best game, missed an absolute sitter but struggled to get in the right areas
Gyokeres 7- Fairly quiet game for his standards but a moment of brilliance getting us a point
Subs:
Palmer 6.5- looked fairly good and lively with some nice one touch play in areas on the left flank, expect him to start next week
Dabo 7- looked very lively and up for it when he came on, was a driving force down the right
Tavares 6- wasn’t invoked too much but some good link up play with Dabo both causing issues for their left hand side
Walker 6- Impressed in comparison to what we had from Walker last year. Strong in his hold up play and he actually moved for once
Eccles 3- Absolutely dreadful. Understand he’s out of position but his passing was horrific and positioning was awful
Hyam 6.5- solid performance really but don’t think he was tested that much
Fadz 6- similar to Hyam not really much to do but really hope I never see him try a cross field diagonal again
Panzo 7.5- Good progressive centre half that carried it well throughout, passing not the best at times but looked relatively solid.
Bidwell 5- Very poor for their goal and not good going forward. Was solid defensively after the goal
Hamer 6- Grew as the game went on but think he struggled without the space that O’Hare generates for him
Sheaf 6- Similar to Hamer, got better as the game went on but struggles in the tight spaces
Allen 6- Usual energetic performance from him with some good link up play but think we lacked shape when he was playing as we didn’t have the advanced midfielder and it was more a bank of 3 in the midfield creating congestion
Godden 5.5- Not his best game, missed an absolute sitter but struggled to get in the right areas
Gyokeres 7- Fairly quiet game for his standards but a moment of brilliance getting us a point
Subs:
Palmer 6.5- looked fairly good and lively with some nice one touch play in areas on the left flank, expect him to start next week
Dabo 7- looked very lively and up for it when he came on, was a driving force down the right
Tavares 6- wasn’t invoked too much but some good link up play with Dabo both causing issues for their left hand side
Walker 6- Impressed in comparison to what we had from Walker last year. Strong in his hold up play and he actually moved for once
The Philosopher
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Moore 5
Flapped and cost a goal. Couple of bread and butter saves that any Championship keeper should make but other than that he hasn’t done himself any favours.
Eccles 6
Grew into the game and some decent play just before he came off. We need a fit a Dabo or a loanee swap for Kane or something. Just think he needs to go on loan to L1.
Hyam 8
Thought he did well. Brought ball out well. Cleared his lines. Can’t remember any mistakes.
Fadz 7
As above.
Panzo 7
Great shot and I think he’ll get a handful of goals this season. Couple of misplaced passes but he did well on balance.
Bidwell 5
I don’t care that he’s played xyz games for Swansea. Poor crosses. Just. Meh.
Hamer 7
Silly booking but he showed his quality when he got a chance.
Allen 5
Not good enough. Just not good enough at this level.
Sheaf 5
No one is allowed to be honest about Sheaf without some gargler on here jumping on the thread. Dithered rather than shot and a number of times looked flat footed and let the play run by him. Not impressive.
Godden 6
Missed a sitter but ran around well and a bit more game management from him.
Gyok 8
Quality.
Subs all 6
Flapped and cost a goal. Couple of bread and butter saves that any Championship keeper should make but other than that he hasn’t done himself any favours.
Eccles 6
Grew into the game and some decent play just before he came off. We need a fit a Dabo or a loanee swap for Kane or something. Just think he needs to go on loan to L1.
Hyam 8
Thought he did well. Brought ball out well. Cleared his lines. Can’t remember any mistakes.
Fadz 7
As above.
Panzo 7
Great shot and I think he’ll get a handful of goals this season. Couple of misplaced passes but he did well on balance.
Bidwell 5
I don’t care that he’s played xyz games for Swansea. Poor crosses. Just. Meh.
Hamer 7
Silly booking but he showed his quality when he got a chance.
Allen 5
Not good enough. Just not good enough at this level.
Sheaf 5
No one is allowed to be honest about Sheaf without some gargler on here jumping on the thread. Dithered rather than shot and a number of times looked flat footed and let the play run by him. Not impressive.
Godden 6
Missed a sitter but ran around well and a bit more game management from him.
Gyok 8
Quality.
Subs all 6
DannyThomas_1981
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We always look better with Dabo in the team at RWB.
Panzo - brilliant signing.
Add in O'Hare, Adaramola, Palmer at 100%, and Godden back to his usual sharpness - plenty to look forward too.
Panzo - brilliant signing.
Add in O'Hare, Adaramola, Palmer at 100%, and Godden back to his usual sharpness - plenty to look forward too.
stevefloyd
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Fair play for missing Bidwell off...utter shite again
DannyThomas_1981
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Agree with a lot of this; and also noticed Dabo and Tavares causing quite a few problems for the oppo like you mention HW,
DannyThomas_1981
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Way too harsh Steve - just my view.
covcity4life
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Moore poor for goal but did fine other than that? Cut out a very dangerous cross without giving up a rebound too
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yes made up for his error. Very uncharacteristic mistake though for someone of his experience.
Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue
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Disappointed with Bidwell again. Defended like a middle age Sunday league player for the goal. Flat footed, easily fooled and allowed the Sunderland player all the time he needed to pick the cross. Moore still made a howler but this isn’t the first time Bidwell has defended like an 18 stone pub player.
The triple change changed it for us. We were slow and lethargic until then.
Panzo had a storming game, read it well and was aggressive in challenging attackers. Gyokeres took his goal fantastically well, classic number 9 play. Take the point and let’s make it three against Rotherham.
shmmeee
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Moore - 5: Shocking for the first goal. Decent take from their cross, can’t remember much else.
Hyam - 6: OK
Fadz - 6: OK
Panzo 8(MOTM): Looked excellent on the ball, strong in the air and some good tackles. Can see why Robins has been tracking him for so long.
Eccles - 5: Poor, seems like a lot of midfielders we produce who are tidy and technically good but lack anything outstanding. Not a WB at all.
Hamer - 5: Was bad Hamer, silly booking, not great going forwards and poor set pieces.
Sheaf - 7: Still hard over that outside of the boot throughball, got stuck in well, looks a lot less jittery on the ball in our third from this time last season.
Bidwell - 6: Poor. Offered nothing going forwards and should’ve done better for the goal.
Allen - 5: Was he even on the pitch? Not a Championship AM, works hard but impacts little.
Godden - 5: Not much service but should’ve taken the chance gifted to him. Especially as Hamer who left it for him probably would have.
Györkeres - 7: Great goal, worked hard all game.
Dabo - 7: That’s how you play wingback (even though he was FB at the time). Got at them and looked dangerous.
Palmer - 7: Some nice touches showed there’s a player in there. Height came in useful on a couple of occasions. Excited to see more once he’s up to speed.
Walker - 6: Ran about a bit
Tavares - 6: Ran about a bit quite fast.
Hyam - 6: OK
Fadz - 6: OK
Panzo 8(MOTM): Looked excellent on the ball, strong in the air and some good tackles. Can see why Robins has been tracking him for so long.
Eccles - 5: Poor, seems like a lot of midfielders we produce who are tidy and technically good but lack anything outstanding. Not a WB at all.
Hamer - 5: Was bad Hamer, silly booking, not great going forwards and poor set pieces.
Sheaf - 7: Still hard over that outside of the boot throughball, got stuck in well, looks a lot less jittery on the ball in our third from this time last season.
Bidwell - 6: Poor. Offered nothing going forwards and should’ve done better for the goal.
Allen - 5: Was he even on the pitch? Not a Championship AM, works hard but impacts little.
Godden - 5: Not much service but should’ve taken the chance gifted to him. Especially as Hamer who left it for him probably would have.
Györkeres - 7: Great goal, worked hard all game.
Dabo - 7: That’s how you play wingback (even though he was FB at the time). Got at them and looked dangerous.
Palmer - 7: Some nice touches showed there’s a player in there. Height came in useful on a couple of occasions. Excited to see more once he’s up to speed.
Walker - 6: Ran about a bit
Tavares - 6: Ran about a bit quite fast.
covmark
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pusbccfc
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Pretty much spot on. Eccles and Bidwell dreadful. Hamer well off it. Godden has one job and missed it.
Those who came on looked good.
pusbccfc
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He was really poor at the job he had to do.
fernandopartridge
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Moore 5 can't give him any better for such a bad error
Eccles 5 Sunderland were aggressive and he just didn't respond, poor awareness for the goal
Panzo 7 looks great on the ball, we've got to adapt slightly as to how we play off his forward runs
Fadz 7 solid i thought, Stewart was a handful
Hyam 6 caught under the ball for the goal
Bidwell 5 beaten a bit too easily for the goal and then didn't use the ball very well, wasn't anywhere near as bad as said on here
Hamer 7 don't understand the low ratings as we bossed midfield for a lot of the game
Sheaf 7 as Hamer
Allen 5 just didn't look up to it
Godden 5 wasn't involved much and then missed a good chance, a rusty effort really
Gyokeres 8 thought he started quite poorly but then was our biggest threat
Subs
Tav 6
Walker 6
Palmer 6
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Eccles 5 Sunderland were aggressive and he just didn't respond, poor awareness for the goal
Panzo 7 looks great on the ball, we've got to adapt slightly as to how we play off his forward runs
Fadz 7 solid i thought, Stewart was a handful
Hyam 6 caught under the ball for the goal
Bidwell 5 beaten a bit too easily for the goal and then didn't use the ball very well, wasn't anywhere near as bad as said on here
Hamer 7 don't understand the low ratings as we bossed midfield for a lot of the game
Sheaf 7 as Hamer
Allen 5 just didn't look up to it
Godden 5 wasn't involved much and then missed a good chance, a rusty effort really
Gyokeres 8 thought he started quite poorly but then was our biggest threat
Subs
Tav 6
Walker 6
Palmer 6
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Brighton Sky Blue
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All round performance 6/10
Moore 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 5
Panzo 8 MOTM
McF 6
Hyam 6
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 5
Godden 5
Gyo 7
Subs
Tavares 6
Palmer 6
Dabo 6
Walker 6
Moore 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 5
Panzo 8 MOTM
McF 6
Hyam 6
Hamer 5
Sheaf 6
Allen 5
Godden 5
Gyo 7
Subs
Tavares 6
Palmer 6
Dabo 6
Walker 6
stevefloyd
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I really have seen nothing to make me believe he will be anything than shite.. cannot cross and to put him on corners and free kicks was a piss take today sorry for me I would rather see someone else there
Perryccfc
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Hamer getting 5s shows some people’s complete lack of footballing understanding. He wasn’t at his usual level in terms of delivery, but he absolutely bossed the midfield despite being man marked for most of the game. Stupid booking mind. It’s like he needs to get that out of the way so he can start playing.
Grendel
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He bossed midfield - Christ
The Philosopher
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I thought he was solid and brought the ball out and linked up well.
pusbccfc
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One of the worst games he's ever had for us. The tackle was embarrassing. It's like he does it for a laugh.
Perryccfc
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Talk of lack of footballing understanding, Grendal appears.
What’s to moan about today clueless? Boddy over and under priced anyone else recently?