Supporters consultative group minutes? (1 Viewer)

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 24, 2014

Any chance of them

torchomatic · Mar 24, 2014

You can't be that short of moaning material surely?

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 24, 2014

Yep completely run out!! You not worried bout next season torch?

ccfcway · Mar 24, 2014

to be published in 3 weeks

chiefdave · Mar 24, 2014

Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep completely run out!! You not worried bout next season torch?

Next season? I'm still worried about this season!

Matty_CCFC · Mar 24, 2014

Scg......... ?

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skybluefred · Mar 24, 2014

chiefdave said:
Next season? I'm still worried about this season!

Do not worry,when we are struggling to survive in the lowest tier of English football people will still say
we are a BIG Club.

shmmeee · Mar 24, 2014

torchomatic said:
You can't be that short of moaning material surely?

You don't think we should know what is talked about at the SCG?

spider_ricoh · Mar 25, 2014

It can be irritating at times that members of this self-selecting, self-appointed group are sitting in front of SISU trying to legitimise and dignify their ongoing misrule of our club.

It can't be genuinely "consultative" because no Cov fan in their right mind, when consulted about a move to Northampton, would have said "yeah, go on then"

May be being a trifle harsh as I'm sure all attending are dedicated to the club and are giving up their free time on a voluntary basis; indeed I know one members personally and he is a passionate CCFC man, but I'm yet to see any positive changes that the SCG has been instrumental in achieving. Please do correct me if I am wrong.

torchomatic · Mar 25, 2014

shmmeee said:
You don't think we should know what is talked about at the SCG?

I dont think I said that did I?

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Sky Blue Pete · Mar 25, 2014

Still no supporter's consultative group minutes

Anything being hidden?

Jack Griffin · Mar 25, 2014

Still nothing on the offal.

Sky Blue Pete · Mar 25, 2014

Love that we can't take aggressive action and when we try the proper process of using communication tools and asking for answers to legitimate questions I am accused of looking for stuff to whinge about

lamtara2006 · Mar 25, 2014

spider_ricoh said:
It can be irritating at times that members of this self-selecting, self-appointed group are sitting in front of SISU trying to legitimise and dignify their ongoing misrule of our club.

It can't be genuinely "consultative" because no Cov fan in their right mind, when consulted about a move to Northampton, would have said "yeah, go on then"

May be being a trifle harsh as I'm sure all attending are dedicated to the club and are giving up their free time on a voluntary basis; indeed I know one members personally and he is a passionate CCFC man, but I'm yet to see any positive changes that the SCG has been instrumental in achieving. Please do correct me if I am wrong.

I generally agree with your analysis except that Sky Blues Trust representation does have considerable legitimacy. The SCG certainly seems to have changed from a vehicle for the club management taking soundings from supporters to a platform by which Sisu Directors and allies can attack their critics, based on the evidence of recent published minutes. I can't wait for the next instalment of "Let's Get the Trust".

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

How can we send questions to the scg

johnniericoh · Mar 25, 2014

ccfcway said:
to be published in 3 weeks

About the same time as the announcement of the new stadium site - can't wait

oldskyblue58 · Mar 25, 2014

I do not doubt any of the members of the SCG in their passion and desire to do what is best for the club. It is a thankless task serving on committees.

I have some questions about the SCG though

- who do the various parties involved actually represent?
- how did they get chosen to represent?
- how do they consult and communicate with those they represent?
- what are the notable achievements by the SCG?
- What is the history of the SCG who set it up?
- if it is so independent why in this modern world does it not have its own website? Not saying it isn't but perception could be seen to be part of the club
- Who has final say so over the minutes published on the CCFC website?
- when do the fans get a say in who represents us on the SCG?
- what is the SCG stance on playing at Sixfields? and whose views does that stance represent? I assume it would be to make the best of it, if so how have they done that?

To be honest if I hadn't been a poster on here I would never have heard of the SCG

Jack Griffin · Mar 25, 2014

There are a few bits on the offal.

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/supporters-consultative-group-486708.aspx - a well maintained page this,

The SCG is made up of fans' representatives and high-ranking members of both Coventry City Football Club and the Ricoh Arena.

Minutes published here, as well as other places like SBT.. (site seems a bit slow ATM)
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/fans/scg/

lamtara2006 · Mar 25, 2014

dongonzalos said:
How can we send questions to the scg

According to CCFC website, send questions by email to scg@ccfc.co.uk and they will be picked up by fans representatives.

crowsnest · Mar 25, 2014

Have a look at the sky blue trust website

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/supporter-consultation

http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index.php/supporter-consultation/terms-of-reference

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

lamtara2006 said:
According to CCFC website, send questions by email to scg@ccfc.co.uk and they will be picked up by fans representatives.

Thanks

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

oldskyblue58 said:
I do not doubt any of the members of the SCG in their passion and desire to do what is best for the club. It is a thankless task serving on committees.

I have some questions about the SCG though

- who do the various parties involved actually represent?
- how did they get chosen to represent?
- how do they consult and communicate with those they represent?
- what are the notable achievements by the SCG?
- What is the history of the SCG who set it up?
- if it is so independent why in this modern world does it not have its own website? Not saying it isn't but perception could be seen to be part of the club
- Who has final say so over the minutes published on the CCFC website?
- when do the fans get a say in who represents us on the SCG?
- what is the SCG stance on playing at Sixfields? and whose views does that stance represent? I assume it would be to make the best of it, if so how have they done that?

To be honest if I hadn't been a poster on here I would never have heard of the SCG

Yet over 2000 fans subscribe to the trust who appear on television and radio representing the fans. Yet the club will not engage with them because they actually ask the questions that the fans would like answering!

stupot07 · Mar 25, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Yet over 2000 fans subscribe to the trust who appear on television and radio representing the fans. Yet the club will not engage with them because they actually ask the questions that the fans would like answering!

Aren't members of the trust already on the SCG?

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Noggin · Mar 25, 2014

yes Labovich needs someone there to abuse.

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

Tried to email these question but it failed
Looks like that email address is no longer active
Is anyone here a member of the scg?

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 25, 2014

No...but I'm in the LCGB...

ashbyjan · Mar 25, 2014

Dongo (and anyone else) - please feel free to put questions on here or PM me and I will raise them at the SCG

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

Sir/Madam

Please could you ask the club

1) when will be the fans forum date?location? Hosted by?
We all know the council will not partake so let's not delay for that particular piece of theatre to play out.

2) How is a new stadium financially viable? You have to have a business plan.
45+20+10 million means we will be in debt for minus 75 million. Selling the combined stadium and club will not get anywhere near that figure so that can't be the plan

So long term profits clearing the debt. We are currently 7 million a year in debt. This has to rise with the Northampton move. We currently pay over a million in a year in interest. Yet we will need to borrow more. It is impossible that we will be making any profit never mind the type to clear 75 million pounds worth of debt in the lifetime of the investors.

If the answer is promotion. How?

This season we started the season with Leon and Moussa
We will not have them next season. Possibly we may not have Murphy as well.
We will be aiming to reduce the wages to attempt to balance the books.
This season without the 10 point deduction we still fell short of the play offs (never mind promotion)

So please explain satisfactorily how is a new stadium financially viable?

Thanks

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

jimmyhillsfanclub said:
No...but I'm in the LCGB...

Lesbian gay bi sexual club?

Good to see the club has taken massive strides forward in terms of equality. At least we are doing something right.

If you get to the meeting with the club please ask the question for me

Nick · Mar 25, 2014

stupot07 said:
Aren't members of the trust already on the SCG?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors

Yep, the trust were there also.

dongonzalos · Mar 25, 2014

ashbyjan said:
Dongo (and anyone else) - please feel free to put questions on here or PM me and I will raise them at the SCG

Maybe if you can ask one of the other members of the board to ask on my behalf Jan.

I fear if you ask, because it is a difficult question to answer ( it shouldn't be as the FL allowed us to move to Northampton, so they must have asked these questions). That Mr Labovitch may attempt to attack you and the trust as oppose to answer the question itself.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 25, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Lesbian gay bi sexual club?

Good to see the club has taken massive strides forward in terms of equality. At least we are doing something right.

If you get to the meeting with the club please ask the question for me

Maybe that club is specifically for those lesbians & gays suffering from dyslexia?

FYI...LCGB is actually the Lambretta club of Great Britain.

jimmyhillsfanclub · Mar 25, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Lesbian gay bi sexual club?

Good to see the club has taken massive strides forward in terms of equality. At least we are doing something right.

If you get to the meeting with the club please ask the question for me

Maybe that club is specifically for those lesbians & gays suffering from dyslexia?

FYI...LCGB is actually the Lambretta club of Great Britain.

Rusty Trombone · Mar 25, 2014

http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/scg-minutes-march-meeting-250314-1443062.aspx

Minutes now posted.

chiefdave · Mar 25, 2014

Rusty Trombone said:
http://www.ccfc.co.uk/news/article/scg-minutes-march-meeting-250314-1443062.aspx

Minutes now posted.

What have I just read, the minutes of a playground arguement? I was losing the will to live about 2 pages into the ranting about the trust. Think it is time the SCG was folded, what it does now seems to bear no resemblance to the tasks it was created for.

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