After my post on Friday I'm trying to process what I was told and how it fits in with what has been said in the last few days!Funny that this post is getting believed but Shep posted a post on Friday night which contained the first paragraph and people are believing it but everything else in his post is being dismissed.
Every single decision that’s made here is my decision, in terms of the football side of things, and I am obviously directed by the owner and I have to try to make sure we do the best we can to make his wishes a reality, and that’s where we are
After my post on Friday I'm trying to process what I was told and how it fits in with what has been said in the last few days!
Think the level of coaching is consistent across both what king said, what the post you are referring to says and what I was told.
Out of interest Clint, are you questioning the remainder of my post.
If so - I'll look at clearing up what I might be able to.
If you had seen his face I think you would have been less binary on this. He was either incredibly nervous (understandable) or knows he flew close to the litigious winds (possible).
He gave his version of the truth knowing it wouldn’t be challenged
Would you say Brian clough was a mediocre manager without Peter taylor ?Again an ITK who is credible did agree that Viveash was dismissed effectively as he and Robins relationship had broken down
Without Viveash Robins has at best been a mediocre manager at this and all other levels bar Rotherham
He would inevitably be annoyed if having offered them deals the relationship broke down. Robins at that point was vunerable
YepAgain an ITK who is credible did agree that Viveash was dismissed effectively as he and Robins relationship had broken down
Without Viveash Robins has at best been a mediocre manager at this and all other levels bar Rotherham
He would inevitably be annoyed if having offered them deals the relationship broke down. Robins at that point was vunerable
Brian Clough was awful with Taylor - they won the league cup after his departure and that was itWould you say Brian clough was a mediocre manager without Peter taylor ?
Had we beaten derby we'd have had a better start than the last 2 seasons by all accounts .. with adi .
Now I'm not disputing mark and adi were better as a team but please do not use the information from doug king to feel like you're correct on mark robins and suggest hes not a huge part in our success
Again , he is one of our most succesful managers ever .. that irritates you I know
Saying that Mark robins has been mediocre at best at coventry is factually incorrect PeteBoth evo and grendel comments can be liked and we can still move on together
Brian Clough was awful with Taylor - they won the league cup after his departure and that was it
Mark my words these ‘ITK’s’ are going to ruin this club.@GIMOC no disrespect but please can U stop just putting shit out there true or false, it's just wrong if people like to know then DM them not put it on social media as it looks tacky and just disrespectful to the club.
Interesting as had never seen the quotes Vivesh was responding to when he said 'i don't think I am difficult to work with. I really don't think it is worth trying to dissect this - there is 7 years of history there and little of it is public record. End of the day - the two fell out which is sad.Robins started it. It was his interview a couple of weeks before Adi's when Robins called him difficult - Viveash gone
Mark my words these ‘ITK’s’ are going to ruin this club.
Again an ITK who is credible did agree that Viveash was dismissed effectively as he and Robins relationship had broken down
Without Viveash Robins has at best been a mediocre manager at this and all other levels bar Rotherham
He would inevitably be annoyed if having offered them deals the relationship broke down. Robins at that point was vunerable
No they're not , small talk doesn't take down an institutionMark my words these ‘ITK’s’ are going to ruin this club.
On his own without adi for a matter of months it’s an opinionSaying that Mark robins has been mediocre at best at coventry is factually incorrect Pete
On his own without adi for a matter of months it’s an opinion
Brian clough wasnt an awful manager grendel jesus christ
Do you think Dean Austin told Doug Chris Ramsey isn’t eliteThe owner said that MR was responsible for getting in an assistant and one never materialized.
Chris Ramsey spoke to MR at Ryton on October 9th. The appointment got vetoed on, or before October 14th. The reason given was that the owner thought the timing wasn’t right.
So MR must have known somewhere in between October 9th - 14th that he has a dead man walking.
To me, it seems that whole truth isn’t being told.
No they're not , small talk doesn't take down an institution
The owner said that MR was responsible for getting in an assistant and one never materialized.
Chris Ramsey spoke to MR at Ryton on October 9th. The appointment got vetoed on, or before October 14th. The reason given was that the owner thought the timing wasn’t right.
So MR must have known somewhere in between October 9th - 14th that he has a dead man walking.
To me, it seems that whole truth isn’t being told.
You're wasting your time mate
Not saying he was lying, but anyone telling fibs in front of a group of people would surely always pick a story that sounded plausible and would be believed.There's also a lot of people that have listened to what Doug has said and have swallowed it all without even thinking about it.
He's as able to bullshit to suit his agenda as anyone else on here is.
I think you’ve taken my comment literal, I don’t think they realise how much influence they have, we’ve got a good owner that will be driven away with the rubbish that gets spread. Not only the owner, but the management team aswell, I’ve seen some of the stuff that’s been put online about them, awful. It’s not really small talk is it when 90% of the fan base are saying Doug broke up the adi/mr partnership ?!No they're not , small talk doesn't take down an institution
It wasn't though was itWithout Taylor his record was poor
I agree it doesn't helpIt's not helpful though and raises more questions and stir ups
You're wasting your time mate
I'm not sure why?
Surely it's believable that by then that there were thoughts about Robins going so not going to hire?
The telling bit would be when was given the 3 options King said. If it was August / September it would make a difference to if it was October 7th.
It wasn't though was it
2 league cups and a runner up , a uefa cup semi final
11 top 10 finishes and top 5 4 times in a Liverpool Everton dominated era
Hardly poor
Yes it was in context poor. Clough once Taylor went had no one to control his alcoholism for a start. He was out of control and the club discipline fell apart. He had to go away for large periods of the season and Archie Gemmell ran the club a lot of the time.
Forest had 5 crazy years , he still won major honours without Taylor.. this is a fact ? He still won more trophies without Taylor than we have in our history
So he won 4 major honours whilst being pissed up .It’s a poor example. He was drunk most of the time was a figurehead for many years with a lot of helpers around him
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