Sustainability (16 Viewers)

dongonzalos · Jul 22, 2015

Season League Lowest Highest Average
2000–01 Premiership 35,552 40,055 38,974
2001–02 38,237 40,287 39,784
2002–03 35,537 40,205 39,121
2003–04 30,544 40,153 36,666
2004–05 Championship 24,585 34,496 29,207
2005–06 18,353 27,843 22,354
2006–07 16,268 31,269 21,613
2007–08 League One 19,095 38,256 26,546
2008–09 18,847 37,036 23,813
2009–10 17,635 38,234 24,817
2010–11 Championship 20,747 33,622 27,299
2011–12 19,469 33,366 23,379
2012–13 16,788 25,532 21,572
2013–14 17,343

dongonzalos · Jul 22, 2015

As with all clubs good times higher attendance
Bad time lower attendances.

Same with Leeds

Again higher averages but same model.

They must have our water

Nick · Jul 22, 2015

dongonzalos said:
As with all clubs good times higher attendance
Bad time lower attendances.

Same with Leeds

Again higher averages but same model.

They must have our water

Stop being negative. Instead of blaming the club / team / pricing for people not coming, start telling people to get their arses down there and make a good time! Pack the Ricoh out every week and drive the players on instead of the same old stuff in another thread.

dongonzalos · Jul 22, 2015

Nick said:
Stop being negative. Instead of blaming the club / team / pricing for people not coming, start telling people to get their arses down there and make a good time! Pack the Ricoh out every week and drive the players on instead of the same old stuff in another thread.

No negativity there. I think our attendances are great under the circumstances. Fairplay to Cov fans.
The hardcore are fantastic.

Thinking we are a special breed of fickleness. That's negative bollox.

Grendel · Jul 23, 2015

dongonzalos said:
As with all clubs good times higher attendance
Bad time lower attendances.

Same with Leeds

Again higher averages but same model.

They must have our water

Same old negative rubbish I see

dongonzalos · Jul 23, 2015

Grendel said:
Same old negative rubbish I see

Yes unfortunately, however more people on here are sticking up for their own fans. So hopefully the tide is changing and people will start been more positive about Cov fans.

Gint11 · Jul 23, 2015

The club would be better off if we had home end sell outs week in week out but including myself, it's impossible. We have had to put up with some absolute drivel. Keep the faith though. All on Mogga to change the tide.

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Nick · Jul 23, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Yes unfortunately, however more people on here are sticking up for their own fans. So hopefully the tide is changing and people will start been more positive about Cov fans.

The tide will change when people get off their arses to the ricoh. Fair play to anybody who goes up and supports their team rather than preaching over and over on a forum with 101 reasons not to attend.

The only way people will be more positive about city fans is when more city fans are at games getting behind their team.

dongonzalos · Jul 23, 2015

Nick said:
The tide will change when people get off their arses to the ricoh. Fair play to anybody who goes up and supports their team rather than preaching over and over on a forum with 101 reasons not to attend.

The only way people will be more positive about city fans is when more city fans are at games getting behind their team.

And if the preacher also attends?

The Preacher in this case just says don't slag off your own fans and city.
He also praised the fans who attends massively.

Nick · Jul 23, 2015

dongonzalos said:
And if the preacher also attends?

The Preacher in this case just says don't slag off your own fans and city.
He also praised the fans who attends massively.

Then fair play, like I said to anybody who goes. However, I'm not fussed if people want to sit at home and come up with excuse after excuse but be the first to moan about investment and budgets.

Of course there are many reasons why people can't go, work, family, actual money issues, university etc and that's understandable isn't it.

skybluetony176 · Jul 23, 2015

The fact that we have any fans left at all given everything that's happened from relegation from the premiership onwards is a measure of how our fans aren't fickle not how fickle we are. Success breeds ticket sales regardless of the club.

Monners · Jul 23, 2015

Irish Sky Blue said:
Rant started again! I read the other day about Chelsea being one of the biggest clubs in Europe. I think it was the season before Avramovitch took over, they got to their first FA cup final in years. We had a night game against them at Stamford Bridge which I think we won, one of our goals coming from Peter Ndlovu. Bearing in mind their up and coming final, their gate of 8,000 that night was shocking. That is only 20 odd years ago and now they are part of Europes elite. In the sixties, under jimmy Hill, we were then best supported team in the midlands and were in the top 11 or 12 in the country. Don't limit the size of the stadium. The potential is here. Just give people a reason for going again.

Yep - I was at that Chelsea game. Midweek, and on the same night as Arsenal were on telly wining the Cup Winners Cup. Chelsea had won their FA Cup semi a couple of weeks before hand, Stamford Bridge was being redevoloped and a brave new world was being promised by Bates and Mathew Harding.

I have been to Highbury with similar small crowds. Success, or a hint of a positive way forward brings people back to games. The Ron Atkinson point when we had 5k more in his first game is a good example. Whether anyone on here likes it or not, this is human nature, and it happens throughout the football pyramid - non league clubs have this all the time - they are often the locals second club until some success suddenly appears, but the hardcore support is always there.

chiefdave · Jul 23, 2015

As a fan owned team we'd face exactly the same problem we do now. We have revenues, thats to crowd size, that should allow us to get out of L1 but we don't have the revenues to give us a good chance of sustaining Championship football let alone challenge for promotion to the PL.

How long would it be before the natives stated getting restless and demanding more be spent?

Godiva · Jul 23, 2015

chiefdave said:
As a fan owned team we'd face exactly the same problem we do now. We have revenues, thats to crowd size, that should allow us to get out of L1 but we don't have the revenues to give us a good chance of sustaining Championship football let alone challenge for promotion to the PL.

How long would it be before the natives stated getting restless and demanding more be spent?

It's kind of ironic that sisu ownership 2.0 (after the disastrous ver 1.0 - Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott) has laid the ground for even discussing sustainability. The cost cutting, the rent strike, the escape from the Ricoh lease contract, getting rid of high earning players, avoiding paying exorbitant fee's for new signings etc. - all the stuff which has made the fans angry has opened the door where financing the club is relatively painless.

So fans ownership could - in theory - work, if sisu just wrote off all debts, walked away and left the keys with us.

But I think the history has shown us that we are too divided to even decide how to run the club and who to trust with decisions.
It would be chaos and short lived.

Irish Sky Blue · Jul 23, 2015

Godiva said:
It's kind of ironic that sisu ownership 2.0 (after the disastrous ver 1.0 - Ranson/Hoffman/Elliott) has laid the ground for even discussing sustainability. The cost cutting, the rent strike, the escape from the Ricoh lease contract, getting rid of high earning players, avoiding paying exorbitant fee's for new signings etc. - all the stuff which has made the fans angry has opened the door where financing the club is relatively painless.

So fans ownership could - in theory - work, if sisu just wrote off all debts, walked away and left the keys with us.

But I think the history has shown us that we are too divided to even decide how to run the club and who to trust with decisions.
It would be chaos and short lived.

At the risk of going off at a tangent, my beef with Sisu is nothing to do with sustainability. If they were honest and said this is our plan, this is what we are going to do and this is where we will take the club then no problem. However, lack of communication, downright lies (too many examples of this to mention) and the disaster of taking our club to Northampton simply to hold ACL and the council to ransom are all unforgivable, particularly as Fisher persists with his nonsense.

Points made in other posts above, that what the owners do has no impact on gates is simply ludicrous. If we had owners striving to do the best for our club we would have much more hope for a better future and the feel good factor around the place would be much more tangible. The only glimmer for this season is Mowbrey. Not enough to convince some people to return. All of the underlying issues caused by Sisu's ownership are still there, including having Fisher as Chairman.
Anyone who still doesn't think owners have an impact on the fan base and their attendance at games only need to look at the disillusioned people who set up FC United because they couldn't stand any more of the Glazers. To my mind Sisu have been far more of a disaster for us than the Glazers were for Utd.

AndreasB · Jul 23, 2015

Irish Sky Blue said:
At the risk of going off at a tangent, my beef with Sisu is nothing to do with sustainability. If they were honest and said this is our plan, this is what we are going to do and this is where we will take the club then no problem. However, lack of communication, downright lies (too many examples of this to mention) and the disaster of taking our club to Northampton simply to hold ACL and the council to ransom are all unforgivable, particularly as Fisher persists with his nonsense.

Points made in other posts above, that what the owners do has no impact on gates is simply ludicrous. If we had owners striving to do the best for our club we would have much more hope for a better future and the feel good factor around the place would be much more tangible. The only glimmer for this season is Mowbrey. Not enough to convince some people to return. All of the underlying issues caused by Sisu's ownership are still there, including having Fisher as Chairman.
Anyone who still doesn't think owners have an impact on the fan base and their attendance at games only need to look at the disillusioned people who set up FC United because they couldn't stand any more of the Glazers. To my mind Sisu have been far more of a disaster for us than the Glazers were for Utd.

Our very own James Joyce.

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AndreasB · Jul 23, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
The fact that we have any fans left at all given everything that's happened from relegation from the premiership onwards is a measure of how our fans aren't fickle not how fickle we are. Success breeds ticket sales regardless of the club.

We had 27 thousand but it only lasted one game.

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AndreasB · Jul 23, 2015

dongonzalos said:
Yes unfortunately, however more people on here are sticking up for their own fans. So hopefully the tide is changing and people will start been more positive about Cov fans.

Will continue to stick it to "fans" who never fucking bother going yet like to tell us what our owners should do on a forum.

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Hobo · Jul 23, 2015

AndreasB said:
We had 27 thousand but it only lasted one game.

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unfortunately you are here forever.

AndreasB · Jul 23, 2015

Hobo said:
unfortunately you are here forever.

True fans eh Bono.

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Hobo · Jul 23, 2015

AndreasB said:
True fans eh Bono.

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oh, you have revealed my true identity shock!

skybluetony176 · Jul 23, 2015

AndreasB said:
We had 27 thousand but it only lasted one game.

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Amazing isn't it. All things considered, that we can still command a following like that even for one game despite all the shit thrown at us. It show's exactly how fickle we're not. I'm still amazed we can get 10000. What great fans we have, I'm sure you'll agree.

Hobo · Jul 23, 2015

AndreasB said:
We had 27 thousand but it only lasted one game.

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Big following as with the Crewe game and others, also many away games example a large following; many owners would love that potential footfall to tap into.....

I would never slag off our fans.

Gaz71 · Jul 23, 2015

Our away support gets better and better with little success on the pitch...... Imagine the home and away attendance if we were top 6 consistently throughout the season.

ccfcway · Jul 23, 2015

chiefdave said:
As a fan owned team we'd face exactly the same problem we do now. We have revenues, thats to crowd size, that should allow us to get out of L1

ah, success !, I'd take a promotion

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Grendel · Jul 23, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
Amazing isn't it. All things considered, that we can still command a following like that even for one game despite all the shit thrown at us. It show's exactly how fickle we're not. I'm still amazed we can get 10000. What great fans we have, I'm sure you'll agree.

I would struggle to think of any other club in England that would have 17,000 fans desert them after one victory in a league game. If such a team exists can you please tell me?

skybluetony176 · Jul 23, 2015

Grendel said:
I would struggle to think of any other club in England that would have 17,000 fans desert them after one victory in a league game. If such a team exists can you please tell me?

I struggle to think of another team who's fans have been put through the shit that we have. If such a team exists can you please tell me?

Failing that just keep dreaming up reasons to hate your fellow fans if it makes you feel better about yourself like the child you clearly are.

Grendel · Jul 23, 2015

skybluetony176 said:
I struggle to think of another team who's fans have been put through the shit that we have. If such a team exists can you please tell me?

Failing that just keep dreaming up reasons to hate your fellow fans if it makes you feel better about yourself like the child you clearly are.

Are you Dongles love child or just Dongle? Wolves were relegated through the leagues - Blackpool have dire owners - Birmingham had the Bhati brothers.

Anyway - back to the question - name a team that dropped 17,000 in a week and if the fans had had so much shit and were so principaled against the owners they wouldn't have gone at all would they?

stupot07 · Jul 23, 2015

Irish Sky Blue said:
At the risk of going off at a tangent, my beef with Sisu is nothing to do with sustainability. If they were honest and said this is our plan, this is what we are going to do and this is where we will take the club then no problem. .

From Jan 2015

Entitled ‘Coventry City – The Way Forward’, the 1,700-word outline of the club’s ambitions was posted on the Coventry City website today and can be read in full below.

Five Point Plan:-

• Financially stable – with the over-riding aim to field a competitive team

• Aim to move to long term financial independence from the owner

• To have a fully integrated football model with the Academy being a cornerstone of the club model

• To be a community pillar – to assist Sky Blues in the Community in delivering improved health, education, crime and social awareness targets to the local area where our supporters are drawn from

• To develop long-term relationships with businesses in the community along with membership of the Chamber of Commerce and Coventry & Warwickshire Champions

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skybluetony176 · Jul 24, 2015

Grendel said:
Are you Dongles love child or just Dongle? Wolves were relegated through the leagues - Blackpool have dire owners - Birmingham had the Bhati brothers.

Anyway - back to the question - name a team that dropped 17,000 in a week and if the fans had had so much shit and were so principaled against the owners they wouldn't have gone at all would they?

Non of who were moved 35miles for a season on a whim by their owners. So I ask again. If such a team exists please tell me?

We're lucky that we can still get an extra 17000 for a one off game. All things considered. That's a measure of what great fans we have despite what poor owners we have that 17000 will still come.

You're struggling with this but that's not surprising. You'd much rather our attendances be a reflection of our fans rather than our owners. Perhaps Timmy will give you a wave from his seat as an acknowledgment of all your hard work on their behalf on here. Your heart will skip a beat and in your little world it will all be worth it.

dongonzalos · Jul 24, 2015

AndreasB said:
Will continue to stick it to "fans" who never fucking bother going yet like to tell us what our owners should do on a forum.

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I am sure they wait on your every word with baited breath.

AndreasB · Jul 24, 2015

k-drizzle said:
Our away support gets better and better with little success on the pitch...... Imagine the home and away attendance if we were top 6 consistently throughout the season.

Not actually true.

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AndreasB · Jul 24, 2015

Hobo said:
Big following as with the Crewe game and others, also many away games example a large following; many owners would love that potential footfall to tap into.....

I would never slag off our fans.

Ooh you are a saint Bono.

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dongonzalos · Jul 24, 2015

Grendel said:
I would struggle to think of any other club in England that would have 17,000 fans desert them after one victory in a league game. If such a team exists can you please tell me?

Is there anyway we could speak to Seven Trent about the special fickleness factor put in the water if all coventry fans in the catchment area.

I bang out of order that we are a special breed of fickleness

dongonzalos · Jul 24, 2015

AndreasB said:
Ooh you are a saint Bono.

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