Sylvan Ebanks Blake (2 Viewers)

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

After reading the silly Wind up about Jay E-T signing it got me thinking and I really believe we do need one more forward who will be prolific at this level to really push the top 2 places and hopefully cement our top 6 status. Sylvan Ebanks Blake is currently on a free and is local having left Wolves. His goals to game ratio in higher leagues is superb:

2004–2006 Manchester United 0 (0)
2006 → Royal Antwerp (loan) 9 (4)
2006–2008 Plymouth Argyle. 66 (21)
2008–2013 Wolverhampton Wanderers 177 (61)

What kind of wages would he require? Would he be worth taking on for a season?

Secondly i also saw isaiah Osbourne (the more talented brother of our old player) is also now on a free as Blackpool did not renew his contract.
If we could shift Barton out the door who is more offensive than defensive it would give us an opportunity to take him as we do need cover and competition for Connor Thomas for that role?

hill83 · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
What kind of wages would he require?

LB87ccfc · Sep 16, 2014

Give Jackson and Nouble time, they will certainly come good in the formation and chances we create, once Jackson is fit, we will have a very good player on our hands

skyblueinBaku · Sep 16, 2014

LB87ccfc said:
Give Jackson and Nouble time, they will certainly come good in the formation and chances we create, once Jackson is fit, we will have a very good player on our hands

Jackson & Nouble would certainly be a formidable partnership in this division - once Jackson gets fully fit.

tom88 · Sep 16, 2014

I would take him and the wages offered to him would be more than what he is on now as he is not employed

Seaside-Skyblue · Sep 16, 2014

I think we already have a good crop of strikers now. Little, large, fast, will score goals, powerful. I'm not sure we can tick any more boxes in terms of attributes we require. As a season ticket holder last season at Blackpool, Isaiah Osbourne is not a player that we should go for in my opinion. Was rarely able to pass to his own team mates and clumsy. I think we would find our team frustrating to watch if he joined as similiar to Doyle, could win the ball sometimes but then give it back to the opposition. It wouldn't help our passing and possession game at all.

ccfc_Tom · Sep 16, 2014

I'd rather we tried sign nouble on a permanant deal in jan

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

LB87ccfc said:
Give Jackson and Nouble time, they will certainly come good in the formation and chances we create, once Jackson is fit, we will have a very good player on our hands

Totally agree with you I am suggesting we sign Sylvan EB to add to the 2 very promising players we have up top. To get into the top 2 we will need to have options up top and currently behind Jackson and Nouble we are looking a bit lightweight in the goals department.

spider_ricoh · Sep 16, 2014

I was surpirsd when we signed Nouble as we already had 4 strikes (plus George Thomas) on the books at that point - so including GT, we now have 6 which IMO makes us top heavy, especially when you consider we lack an affective holding midfielder and are maybe lacking in cover at CB too.

So you now think we need 7 strikers at the club? It's not as if we can pick them all at the same time!

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

spider_ricoh said:
I was surpirsd when we signed Nouble as we already had 4 strikes (plus George Thomas) on the books at that point - so including GT, we now have 6 which IMO makes us top heavy, especially when you consider we lack an affective holding midfielder and are maybe lacking in cover at CB too.

So you now think we need 7 strikers at the club? It's not as if we can pick them all at the same time!

NO I think we need 3 very good ones and a back up. For me its not about quantity its all about quality and if we had 3 excellent forwards in the form of Jackson, Nouble and Sylvan EB up top we could be a serious threat in this division where games come thick and fast. We would then need a 4th either McQuiod or Tudgay and George Thomas who is not ready yet, in case of an injury crisis.

Starters: Jackson, Nouble, SEB (2 from 3)
1st reserve: McQuiod (a 1 in 9 career goals to game ratio) Tudgay (looked very off the pace)
2ns reserve: Miller (0 in 5 for us and a career average goals to games ratio of 1 in 4.4 mostly in League 2)

Samo · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
NO I think we need 3 very good ones and a back up. For me its not about quantity
its all about quality and if we had 3 excellent forwards in the form of Jackson, Nouble and Sylvan EB up top we could be a serious threat in this division where games come thick and fast. We would then need a 4th either McQuiod or Tudgay and George Thomas who is not ready yet, in case of an injury crisis.

Starters: Jackson, Nouble, SEB (2 from 3)
1st reserve: McQuiod (a 1 in 9 career goals to game ratio) Tudgay (looked very off the pace)
2ns reserve: Miller (0 in 5 for us and a career average goals to games ratio of 1 in 4.4 mostly in League 2)

So you think that because SP has signed 3 strikers you don't rate he should just keep on signing more? As Spider says, 5 senior strikers is already too many if anything' then you have the kids on top.

CCFC_Charlie · Sep 16, 2014

If you saw Jackson and Nouble play on Saturday then you wouldn't say we needed another striker.

hill83 · Sep 16, 2014

Samo said:
So you think that because SP has signed 3 strikers you don't rate he should just keep on signing more? As Spider says, 5 senior strikers is already too many if anything' then you have the kids on top.

Yeah but

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

CCFC_Charlie said:
If you saw Jackson and Nouble play on Saturday then you wouldn't say we needed another striker.

I did see them and was delighted with the partnership they look like they could form. I said to my Girlfriend when McQuiod went off this should be a good 2nd half as we have our two best forwards on now. My concern is the depth behind the 2 starters and after reading on COV MAD that Nouble might not be playing tonight due to a pulled muscle I make me worry as we really do need to kick on in the goals department and I dont see much in the way of goals from the rest of the forwards we currently have on the books.

CCFC_Charlie · Sep 16, 2014

McQuoid is our joint top-scorer, Miller has barely played and he's scored too. We already have 5 strikers, we're unbeaten in 7 and have one our last three. At the moment I really don't see it as an issue.

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

Samo said:
So you think that because SP has signed 3 strikers you don't rate he should just keep on signing more? As Spider says, 5 senior strikers is already too many if anything' then you have the kids on top.

We signed Denzel Slager last season as he was cheap and available and also Seabourne. Both released shortly after as they were frankly just not up to it.
I fear Miller and Tudgay could both fall into this category in terms of where we are aiming to be (a top 6 team). And were slightly panic buys.
Josh McQuiod was only signed as part of the Wilson deal and SP would not have signed him if it were not for the fact the Cherries wanted our best forward. He is here until January only.

We will need 3 top quality forwards this season and currently I feel we have only 2. Feel free to disagree but after wathing every game this season JPT away at Wycombe aside this is my feeling.

I have put Sylvan EB forward as he is local has a superb goals to game ratio is on a free and would light up this league and could make us into a top 2 outfit.

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

CCFC_Charlie said:
McQuoid is our joint top-scorer, Miller has barely played and he's scored too. We already have 5 strikers, we're unbeaten in 7 and have one our last three. At the moment I really don't see it as an issue.

Well I hope when the realization dawns on you that McQuoid is very average (career goals to games ratio of 1 in 9). It will not be too late to get in a player that can take us into the top 2. As we all know the playoff's are so near yet so far from any sort of actual sucess.
Look at McQuoid's goal v Swindon it exposes the attributes he is so lacking in and shows he is not forward who will score regularly?

I prefer to be pro active rather than reactive in life and I feel with Wilson being sold so late SP sadly was almost cornered into signing Tudgay on a deal as we looked seriously lightweight at that time.

If SP really rated Miller & Tudgay & McQuiod so hightly why has he gone on to bring in 2 new forwards who look like they will be 1st choice since??

johnwillomagic · Sep 16, 2014

Yep ccfc1234 not in land of reality - besides stats on current strikers completely wrong!!

Miller has scored already and not played many minutes his goals to minutes played ratio cannot be too bad???!!!
Mcquoid don't care about his past what is his goals to game ratio for us ccfc1234 not too shabby eh???
Nouble is 1 in 2 and made Jacksons winner on Saturday
Jackson goals per minutes is good too like Miller's and more come
Tudgay - not done it so far but experience could be vital over course of season have a feeling he may do well tonight if called upon now comp for places
George Thomas - Raw academy product wo can only learn from above and should give a few minutes here or there if possible.

More than sufficient depth for League 1 at least until January.

Sylvain ewanks Blake - no thanks what is his more recent goals to game ratio ccfc1234 .......???? Huge wage demands and big time Charlie attitude,
bombed out of Wolves and did not miss him .....says it all!!!

Seaside-Skyblue · Sep 16, 2014

Just because a player is a forward, they don't need to be the best goalscorer or scoring every week. Some are best at linking up the pIay and i quite like McQoid based on what I've seen. He holds it up well and the fact is he has actually scored goals. He contributes well to the team in my opinion.

Samo · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
We signed Denzel Slager last season as he was cheap and available and also Seabourne. Both
released shortly after as they were frankly just not up to it.
I fear Miller and Tudgay could both fall into this category in terms of where we are aiming to be (a top 6 team). And were slightly panic buys.
Josh McQuiod was only signed as part of the Wilson deal and SP would not have signed him if it were not for the fact the Cherries wanted our best forward. He is here until January only.

We will need 3 top quality forwards this season and currently I feel we have only 2. Feel free to disagree but after wathing every game this season JPT away at Wycombe aside this is my feeling.

I have put Sylvan EB forward as he is local has a superb goals to game ratio is on a free and would light up this league and could make us into a top 2 outfit.

If you really believe that 3 of the 5 strikers we have signed are next to useless shouldn't you be calling for the manager to go? Sorry pal, I think I'd sooner trust SPs judgement than yours.

wingy · Sep 16, 2014

Midfield Is where resources would be better targeted ,a new contract to keep Fleck first ,then cover/Competition for Thomas's position.

ajsccfc · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
If SP really rated Miller & Tudgay & McQuiod so hightly why has he gone on to bring in 2 new forwards who look like they will be 1st choice since??

Options. If we only had three forwards people would be shitting themselves in rage.

Del Boy 82 · Sep 16, 2014

Ebanks Blake would not be a bad signing but I'm sure if it was possible, an he fit the DNA, he'd of been in on trial. I'm quite happy with what we got at the minute, nouble an Jackson to me are our first pairing, with miller my 3rd choice with tudgay an mcquoid to fit around as required. I like what miller has shown when he's come on, a direct threat. Mcquoid had contributed well with goals an sadly tudgay has looked off the pace despite goals in pre season.

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

Samo said:
If you really believe that 3 of the 5 strikers we have signed are next to useless shouldn't you be calling for the manager to go? Sorry pal, I think I'd sooner trust SPs judgement than yours.

Fair enough I am just some random fan I get that, but on transfers he has been found wanting and I think this is due to the constraints he is working under.
If you want facts rather than perceptions go to soccerbase and look at our in's and out's under SP and you will see he has not really done very well in the market at all.
If it were not for our academy and how well he does with them (his forte) then we would be looking in bad shape.

Guess time will tell on the sucess or otherwise of Tudgay, Miller and McQuiod.

Samo · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
Fair enough I am just some random fan I get that, but on transfers he has been found wanting and I
think this is due to the constraints he is working under.
If you want facts rather than perceptions go to soccerbase and look at our in's and out's under SP and you will see he has not really done very well in the market at all.
If it were not for our academy and how well he does with them (his forte) then we would be looking in bad shape.

Guess time will tell on the sucess or otherwise of Tudgay, Miller and McQuiod.

For what its worth, my opinion on those 3 players is:
Tudgay - Yes has looked poor, but has been prolific in the past and I think he was worth a punt. Might yet prove his worth.
Miller - Hasn't had a chance yet really, did take his goal well, wait until he gets a run through injury, then judge.
McQuoid - 3 goals, nice touch, works hard, no complaints yet from me.

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

johnwillomagic said:
Yep ccfc1234 not in land of reality - besides stats on current strikers completely wrong!! (1.)

Miller has scored already and not played many minutes his goals to minutes played ratio cannot be too bad???!!!
Mcquoid don't care about his past what is his goals to game ratio for us ccfc1234 not too shabby eh??? (2.)
Nouble is 1 in 2 and made Jacksons winner on Saturday (3.)
Jackson goals per minutes is good too like Miller's and more come
Tudgay - not done it so far but experience could be vital over course of season have a feeling he may do well tonight if called upon now comp for places
George Thomas - Raw academy product wo can only learn from above and should give a few minutes here or there if possible.

More than sufficient depth for League 1 at least until January.

(4.)
Sylvain ewanks Blake - no thanks what is his more recent goals to game ratio ccfc1234 .......???? Huge wage demands and big time Charlie attitude,
bombed out of Wolves and did not miss him .....says it all!!!

Thanks for the rudeness Jon.

(1.) My stats are correct please go and look at yours. Miller is 0 from 5 in the league.

(2.) As for your comment RE: McQouid well it made me laugh. How can you not care about what a player has done previously? What manager in history with any sort of success has taken this flippant, hope for the best approach to player recruitment?

(3.) You quote Nouble and Jackson as if I dont rate them - please read the thread before you steam in with strong opinions I LOVE them as a pair and am DELIGHTED to have them at CCFC as mentioned on all my posts.

(4.) As for SEB - for a man who does not care about what a player has done before, I am surprised you even asked the question. But apart from a frustrating period at Ipswich when he was used as a sub for all but one appearance his goals to games ratio at Wolves in the Prem and Championship is 1 in every 2.9 games. He is still also only 28 for the record.

As for his attitude if that is poor I would not want him here as hard work and dedication are key to success in any player. But I don't know him as well as you clearly do I will not comment on things I know nothing about.

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

Samo said:
For what its worth, my opinion on those 3 players is:
Tudgay - Yes has looked poor, but has been prolific in the past and I think he was worth a punt. Might yet prove his worth.
Miller - Hasn't had a chance yet really, did take his goal well, wait until he gets a run through injury, then judge.
McQuoid - 3 goals, nice touch, works hard, no complaints yet from me.

I hope you are right Samo and I will be delighted when yourself or one of the people who disagree's with my assessments gets the opportunity to say told you so. As it will mean were being successful on the pitch.

johnwillomagic · Sep 16, 2014

0 in 5 for Miller come on read my post again goals per minutes for Miller not bad better than Ebanks blake recent record
Notice again you have not read or answered my goals per game ratio for Cov for Mcquoid......I wonder why!!!

Good on your final comment!

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

johnwillomagic said:
0 in 5 for Miller come on read my post again goals per minutes for Miller not bad better than Ebanks blake recent record
Notice again you have not read or answered my goals per game ratio for Cov for Mcquoid......I wonder why!!!

Good on your final comment!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-wolves-hitman-sylvan-ebanks-blake-weighing-4071114

"The 28-year-old striker constructed a reputation as one of the Championship’s most rapacious marksmen during his five-year tenure at Wolves.

Not my words an expert footballing Jerno apparently.

Anyhow Josh McQuoid for CCFC has 3 in 8 in all competitions with a goals to games ratio of 1 in 2.6 (superb) However with a career averahe of worse than i in 9 I would be staggered (in a very happy way) if this was maintained.

johnwillomagic · Sep 16, 2014

Last five seaons Ebanks blake

apps Goals
27 2
34 7
26 3
42 15
10 0

139 27

top that broken his leg and been injury prone last few years plus on high wages......ratio of 1 goal in 5
lot worse than the 1 in 2.6 you have mocked Mcquoid for to date!!

rupert_bear · Sep 16, 2014

We have five strikers ffs, what we urgently need is players to create and supply the chances

Samo · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ex-wolves-hitman-sylvan-ebanks-blake-weighing-4071114

"The 28-year-old striker constructed a reputation as one of the Championship’s most rapacious marksmen during his five-year tenure at Wolves.

Not my words an expert footballing Jerno apparently.

Anyhow Josh McQuoid for CCFC has 3 in 8 in all competitions with a goals to games ratio of 1 in 2.6 (superb) However with a career averahe of worse than i in 9 I would be staggered (in a very happy way) if this was maintained.

And how many of those games did JM play up front? Stats can be an arse, surely you know that?

johnwillomagic · Sep 16, 2014

I think most on here bar cov 1234 can see strikeforce strong enough and need cover more urgently in other areas.
Holding midfielder and central defender really......more worried about lack of cover at back and in midfield.

For instance reda suspended what options do we have as cover. To keep same formation would move clarke to centre half
and start phillips as right wing back but does leave us shorter of height/physical presence at the back!!!

ccfc1234 · Sep 16, 2014

Samo said:
And how many of those games did JM play up front? Stats can be an arse, surely you know that?

Take your point Samo, I have not really followed his career that closely until now. But he has been a forward every time I have seen him play.

Samo · Sep 16, 2014

ccfc1234 said:
Take your point Samo, I have not really followed his career that closely until now. But he has been a forward every time I have seen him play.

I'm told he has spent a lot of his career out wide.

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