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Target Man or More Creativity? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter RegTheDonk
  • Start date Dec 29, 2017
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RegTheDonk

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #1
Following on from Nicks post Second loanee imminent about a loanee or thinking of the upcoming window, I agree with the need of an established target man. I'm no knowledge bank and don't get involved in these kind of debates, but I've thought for ages we have an established formula that usually at some point a lump comes into the mix. Its either a 30 yard chip from the back up the wings or towards the front two, or a pitch lengh punt from Burge (which is frustrating as half the time with a bounce or two it ends up in the other keeper's gloves).

We don't seem to roll it out to the back four and progress along the ground to the other box. Maybe they aren't skillful or confident enough, maybe there isn't enough creativity in the middle and we need a playmaker, maybe the pitch is fucked from the Rugby, somebody with insight can answer that one. But at the moment, getting from one end of the pitch to the other in less than 5 seconds isn't working. I'm probably missing something or stating something so obvious I'm an idiot, but thats how it looks to me.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #2
If we had an effective target man generally menacing oppositions defences it would create openings for others to hopefully take advantage of but Robins don't set his team up like this even though the ball is lumped forward on numerous occasions
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #3
RegTheDonk said:
Following on from Nicks post Second loanee imminent about a loanee or thinking of the upcoming window, I agree with the need of an established target man. I'm no knowledge bank and don't get involved in these kind of debates, but I've thought for ages we have an established formula that usually at some point a lump comes into the mix. Its either a 30 yard chip from the back up the wings or towards the front two, or a pitch lengh punt from Burge (which is frustrating as half the time with a bounce or two it ends up in the other keeper's gloves).

We don't seem to roll it out to the back four and progress along the ground to the other box. Maybe they aren't skillful or confident enough, maybe there isn't enough creativity in the middle and we need a playmaker, maybe the pitch is fucked from the Rugby, somebody with insight can answer that one. But at the moment, getting from one end of the pitch to the other in less than 5 seconds isn't working. I'm probably missing something or stating something so obvious I'm an idiot, but thats how it looks to me.
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In the games I have seen generally we have mixed the distribution from Burge to the showing players and kicking it long.
At Port Vale everything went long once we had 4 strikers on except the ball which went out of play.
 
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Gaz71

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #4
When Vincenti plays its all too obvious that we lump the ball in his direction every long kick we have and the opposition surround him and mop up the second ball.
 

Covstu

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #5
For me it’s a winger or an attacking midfielder if we are going for a loanee. We have two of these injuried somwouldnt make sense to bring in another permanent one. If we were looking to sign I would opt for a striker to partner McNulty or Give ponticelli a fair crack at the front
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #6
Both a targetman and a finisher.
 
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higgs

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #7
dongonzalos said:
Both a targetman and a finisher.
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What is one of them?

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Gaz71

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #8
Just thinking of some our recent targetmen/finishers...... Henderson, MAF, Nouble, Armstrong, Madine, Proschwitz, any others?
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #9
We lack creativity, a winger or attacking midfielder is a must, our 2 most creative players are injured the for season and we already have 5-6 strikers.

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ccfchoi87

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #10
Every team would love a new striker but we have plenty and robins has to work with what he's got. If he could offload a striker then maybe. Creativity is the priority.
 
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Adge

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #11
Gaz71 said:
Just thinking of some our recent targetmen/finishers...... Henderson, MAF, Nouble, Armstrong, Madine, Proschwitz, any others?
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Nathan Ecclestone, Nathan Delfouneso.
 
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Gaz71

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #12
Adge said:
Nathan Ecclestone, Nathan Delfouneso.
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I don’t remember Ecclestone, was he the lad on loan from Reading?
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #13
We need creativity. Doesn't matter how good your target man or finisher is...if they don't get the right deliveries you may as well play anybody up front. Our problem is midfield the final third and getting bodies in the box. We don't threaten from set pieces either.
 
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Adge

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  • Dec 29, 2017
  • #14
Gaz71 said:
I don’t remember Ecclestone, was he the lad on loan from Reading?
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Think he done the rounds on loan. Might have been Blackpool?
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #15
stupot07 said:
We lack creativity, a winger or attacking midfielder is a must, our 2 most creative players are injured the for season and we already have 5-6 strikers.

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Yeah but mcnulty isn't the player MR thought he was. He needs too many chances to score. No one wants to pass to him etc. Nothing to do with there being no one to pass to him or giving him genuine goalscoring chances.
 

Hobo

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #16
Gaz71 said:
Just thinking of some our recent targetmen/finishers...... Henderson, MAF, Nouble, Armstrong, Madine, Proschwitz, any others?
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Manset, Denzil Slager, Roy O'Donovan, Fortune.
 

mark82

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #17
SkyBlueZack said:
Yeah but mcnulty isn't the player MR thought he was. He needs too many chances to score. No one wants to pass to him etc. Nothing to do with there being no one to pass to him or giving him genuine goalscoring chances.
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The same McNulty that has scored 6 in the last 7? If he scored every chance he got he wouldn't be in the 4th tier. McNulty won't be replaced.
 
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SkyBlueZack

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #18
mark82 said:
The same McNulty that has scored 6 in the last 7? If he scored every chance he got he wouldn't be in the 4th tier. McNulty won't be replaced.
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Just taking the mickey out of Dongo. I like McNulty.
 
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Gaz71

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #19
Hobo said:
Manset, Denzil Slager, Roy O'Donovan, Fortune.
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McBean
 
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Gaz71

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #20
Adge said:
Think he done the rounds on loan. Might have been Blackpool?
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Ah, I was thinking of Dominic Samuel.
 

Adge

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  • Dec 30, 2017
  • #21
Gaz71 said:
Ah, I was thinking of Dominic Samuel.
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Yes he was reasonable before he got injured-now back with Mowbray I think.
 
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