Terror attack in Manchester? (1 Viewer)

OffenhamSkyBlue · Oct 12, 2019

pastythegreat said:
Did it create a sense of terror in Manchester? Were people in the local area who heard/seen/witnessed it scared for their own/other peoples lives?

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Undoubtedly, and i take your point, but that is NOT the definition of "terrorism" (according to the Terrorism Act 2000, which should be the proper definition). That requires that the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racist or ideological cause. Not just because you have a mental health disorder.

David O'Day · Oct 12, 2019

pastythegreat said:
Did it create a sense of terror in Manchester? Were people in the local area who heard/seen/witnessed it scared for their own/other peoples lives?

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OSB has explained this better than I could

pastythegreat · Oct 12, 2019

OffenhamSkyBlue said:
Undoubtedly, and i take your point, but that is NOT the definition of "terrorism" (according to the Terrorism Act 2000, which should be the proper definition). That requires that the use or threat is made for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racist or ideological cause. Not just because you have a mental health disorder.

Or this?

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David O'Day · Oct 12, 2019

pastythegreat said:
Or this?

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That's US law not UK law and the section above states it has to be politically motivated

OffenhamSkyBlue · Oct 12, 2019

David O'Day said:
That's US law not UK law and the section above states it has to be politically motivated

I think the key word is "and" at the end of the first bullet point. That is to say, while i agree about the "reaching wider spectrum, etc", it must also include political motivation.
As i said earlier, I really do take your point about the guy terrorising people, but for it to be a "terrorist act" (as the Counter Terrorism Unit stated), he had to be more that just attacking people at random. Hopefully if they find no evidence of political motivation, they will say so, and say it wasn't an act of terrorism, rather than just leaving it "out there".

dancers lance · Oct 18, 2019

David O'Day said:
Well as the person has now been detained under the mental health act and the GMP have said they haven't yet found any racial, religious or political motivation it's wrong to call it a terror attack.

fernandopartridge said:
In fairness the hallmarks are not mutually exclusive

Exactly, but the OP failed to include that in his rather expressed, disingenuous and agenda driven explanation of the situation, which was my point entirely. He could have easily said "this has the hallmarks of a mentally ill person, or a terrorist or both" but he didn't, he chose his path and it's bullshit.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 18, 2019

Fernando is the OP

fellatio_Martinez · Oct 18, 2019

Is something going down in Manchester again?

fernandopartridge · Oct 18, 2019

fernandopartridge · Oct 18, 2019

I was in the Arndale a couple of weeks back on a Friday and loads of youths were charged out of there by the police.

Then last week the stabbings, this week this.

dancers lance · Oct 19, 2019

David O'Day said:
Well as the person has now been detained under the mental health act and the GMP have said they haven't yet found any racial, religious or political motivation it's wrong to call it a terror attack.

I never said it was, but you had already decided I couldn't be (given the hallmarks) because you are an ideologue, an adherent of your chosen agenda, a twat. I can't stand middle class white apologists. How was your gap year?

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