That 27,000 weren't sisu supporters... (1 Viewer)

standupforcity · Feb 24, 2015

It wasn't 27,000 sisu fans who turned out on our return to the Ricoh, the last positive thing to happen at our club. It was 27,000 football fans hoping to see some football. If we'd continued to win, we'd still be getting the crowds, and we wouldn't be focusing on our owners. But it all went wrong, and it's taken a long time to get round to taking any further positive action. But now it's happened, are we going to give our team a fresh surge of support? Are we going to show any change on the terraces as a result of Pressley's sacking? If we show our support in numbers on Saturday, this will surely encourage team, who must be looking for a sense of change from all quarters.....we can play our part, and I hope we do!

Wyken Sky Blue · Feb 24, 2015

standupforcity said:
It wasn't 27,000 sisu fans who turned out on our return to the Ricoh, the last positive thing to happen at our club. It was 27,000 football fans hoping to see some football. If we'd continued to win, we'd still be getting the crowds, and we wouldn't be focusing on our owners. But it all went wrong, and it's taken a long time to get round to taking any further positive action. But now it's happened, are we going to give our team a fresh surge of support? Are we going to show any change on the terraces as a result of Pressley's sacking? If we show our support in numbers on Saturday, this will surely encourage team, who must be looking for a sense of change from all quarters.....we can play our part, and I hope we do!

We did win that game, the crowd dipped to just over 11,000 the week after...

standupforcity · Feb 24, 2015

skyblue1991 said:
We did win that game, the crowd dipped to just over 11,000 the week after...

Good point, but if we'd continued winning....? will you be going this Sat?

hill83 · Feb 24, 2015

We won our first game back and the attendance at the next home game which we also won was 11085. It was always going to drop off regardless. I didn't go to the Gillingham game myself as I was abroad, and usually I'd be slagging people off for giving up so quickly. I did at the time when I was still going.

But the figures suggest you are wrong.

Then we lost, drew, lost then won. Attendance at the win? 8957. It wasn't a terrible run, but the football was shite and I think I'd stopped going by then, last time I went was Bristol I think and I left at half time.

smileycov · Feb 24, 2015

Hate this site now......Let's not discuss the post or point were making, let's pick up on something and nit pick!! Great.

Ashdown · Feb 24, 2015

standupforcity said:
It wasn't 27,000 sisu fans who turned out on our return to the Ricoh, the last positive thing to happen at our club. It was 27,000 football fans hoping to see some football. If we'd continued to win, we'd still be getting the crowds, and we wouldn't be focusing on our owners. But it all went wrong, and it's taken a long time to get round to taking any further positive action. But now it's happened, are we going to give our team a fresh surge of support? Are we going to show any change on the terraces as a result of Pressley's sacking? If we show our support in numbers on Saturday, this will surely encourage team, who must be looking for a sense of change from all quarters.....we can play our part, and I hope we do!

If the owners just stuck to the task of running a football club in the customary sort of fashion I would agree but this is a determined, incompetent and arrogant hedge fund who dragged the club away from its home city for 18 months and just when people started to gain hope for change as we returned they chucked it in the faces of the fans once again by declaring it was all temporary and the court cases would continue !

standupforcity · Feb 24, 2015

smileycov said:
Hate this site now......Let's not discuss the post or point were making, let's pick up on something and nit pick!! Great.

The question I'm asking is, now there's been a 'change', will people be throwing their support behind the team and giving them, the innocent party, a chance?!

hill83 · Feb 24, 2015

smileycov said:
Hate this site now......Let's not discuss the post or point were making, let's pick up on something and nit pick!! Great.

The point becomes almost irrelevant if it's very basis is based on incorrect facts. Hardly nitpicking.

That being said, I hope the attendances do pick up, I'm going to wait a couple of games to see how we perform then maybe give it another bash.

standupforcity · Feb 24, 2015

hill83 said:
The point becomes almost irrelevant if it's very basis is based on incorrect facts. Hardly nitpicking.

That being said, I hope the attendances do pick up, I'm going to wait a couple of games to see how we perform then maybe give it another bash.

Why wait...that's what sisu did...now's the time for action!

hill83 · Feb 24, 2015

standupforcity said:
Why wait...that's what sisu did...now's the time for action!

I work 2 weekends a month so I'll need to book time off, I'm not wasting holiday if it's still shite.

Sub · Feb 24, 2015

skyblue1991 said:
We did win that game, the crowd dipped to just over 11,000 the week after...

was that the week they started new legal proceedings too against the council and charity?

rupert_bear · Feb 24, 2015

This Gillingham game and it's attendance is always being brought up. A large gate was always going to happen should we return to the Ricoh especially if the season had started which it had and the fall away was always going to happen. What it did shoe however was potential, as did the 32000 Crewe gate. There is a crowd potential here but we have suffered years of problems going back before SISU and since they came. That will take more than gimmicky game like Gillingham to turn things around. But I take the fact we can take over 7000 would have been a lot more had their ground been finished to MK Dons for a piddling division 3 match as hope for the future if we get things right.

hill83 · Feb 24, 2015

Sub said:
was that the week they started new legal proceedings too against the council and charity?

I think it was. Probably had an effect. But also I had several people taking the piss that they were going to the Gillingham game and I couldn't, who were doing the same that I was going to the next game and they weren't. Big time Charlie's day out and not a barometer of future attendances.

RFC · Feb 24, 2015

Football fans in general are fickle and the vast majority just love a good moan but Coventry City supporters appear to be much more negative than most.

The obsession regarding our owners takes the whole point and focus away from what we should all be doing, supporting the manager and the team, unfortunately another one 'bites the dust' and the timing is diabolical.

When has changing the manager actually had a positive and lasting benefit to the Sky Blues even in the short term (can think of only one over the last 20yrs, Mark Robins and he jumped ship).

We are now looking for our 12th manager since Gordon Strachen was dismissed in 2001, not a record to be particularly proud of and my guess is that in a couple of years time exactly the same thing will happen.

I'd have stuck with 'Elvis' for the long-term, we'll have great difficulty in finding a more passionate and totally hard working and committed manager, would like to wish him all the best and good luck in the future.

Sub · Feb 24, 2015

RFC said:
Football fans in general are fickle and the vast majority just love a good moan but Coventry City supporters appear to be much more negative than most.

The obsession regarding our owners takes the whole point and focus away from what we should all be doing, supporting the manager and the team, unfortunately another one 'bites the dust' and the timing is diabolical.

When has changing the manager actually had a positive and lasting benefit to the Sky Blues even in the short term (can think of only one over the last 20yrs, Mark Robins and he jumped ship).

We are now looking for our 12th manager since Gordon Strachen was dismissed in 2001, not a record to be particularly proud of and my guess is that in a couple of years time exactly the same thing will happen.

I'd have stuck with 'Elvis' for the long-term, we'll have great difficulty in finding a more passionate and totally hard working and committed manager, would like to wish him all the best and good luck in the future.

RFC you defend everything SISU do which is your choice but seen as you are in the know when are we finding out about the new stadium and how will that benefit CCFC if CCFC do not own it?

Sky Blue Kid · Feb 24, 2015

That 27k crowd were fans who genuinely thought CCFC had "Come home for good" Only to have it thrown in their faces with a "It is only temporary" from Fisher.

rupert_bear · Feb 24, 2015

Sorry RFC can't agree. To me SP proved time and time again he is not and never will be a good football manager at this level of above. We will find him dotting about probably the Scottish leagues couple of years here a couple there, but at top level no way. Has no man management skills whatsoever a vital component to be a decent pro. manager and he will never learn that, you are what you are and that will always come out eventually.

skybluetony176 · Feb 24, 2015

standupforcity said:
Good point, but if we'd continued winning....? will you be going this Sat?

The following home game was Yeovil wasn't it? Pretty sure we won that game too.

torchomatic · Feb 24, 2015

Funnily enough Waggot made that point. We beat Gillingham, gate dropped and then we beat Yeovil, gates dropped.

standupforcity said:
Good point, but if we'd continued winning....? will you be going this Sat?

skybluetony176 · Feb 24, 2015

RFC said:
Football fans in general are fickle and the vast majority just love a good moan but Coventry City supporters appear to be much more negative than most.

The obsession regarding our owners takes the whole point and focus away from what we should all be doing, supporting the manager and the team, unfortunately another one 'bites the dust' and the timing is diabolical.

When has changing the manager actually had a positive and lasting benefit to the Sky Blues even in the short term (can think of only one over the last 20yrs, Mark Robins and he jumped ship).

We are now looking for our 12th manager since Gordon Strachen was dismissed in 2001, not a record to be particularly proud of and my guess is that in a couple of years time exactly the same thing will happen.

I'd have stuck with 'Elvis' for the long-term, we'll have great difficulty in finding a more passionate and totally hard working and committed manager, would like to wish him all the best and good luck in the future.

Do you seriously not see the connection between fans supporting the club and owners supporting the club? Our owners are reaping the fan base that they've sewn.

torchomatic · Feb 24, 2015

Whilst true, I can't believe crowds dropped so dramatically just because of what Fisher said. After all, he's a liar, isn't he? Even if the new stadium did happen then we'll be at the Ricoh for a good few years yet, so the "But Fisher said" excuse is a little lame.

Sky Blue Kid said:
That 27k crowd were fans who genuinely thought CCFC had "Come home for good" Only to have it thrown in their faces with a "It is only temporary" from Fisher.

covcity4life · Feb 24, 2015

yeovil crowd was a real shame. second home match, on a winstreak lol and not many turned up. then we won and attendences still fell.

lets hope we play better now SP has gone and can tempt some back.

who knew you could support cov yet still be a glory fan!

Otis · Feb 24, 2015

skyblue1991 said:
We did win that game, the crowd dipped to just over 11,000 the week after...

Yes, it was a concerning drop, but the problem for me lay in that second game against Yeovil. It was all rather grim and dire and though we won, it was not exciting football by a long chalk.

I still think fans should have come back anyway, but had we turned on the style in that Yeovil match I do think the next home game would have had a much larger attendance than we ended up with.

covcity4life · Feb 24, 2015

we are in league one otis. a wins a win.

the drop off was pathetic, lets not make excuses.

torchomatic · Feb 24, 2015

True, but the 16K who didn't turn up didn't know that in advance, did they?

Otis said:
Yes, it was a concerning drop, but the problem for me lay in that second game against Yeovil. It was all rather grim and dire and though we won, it was not exciting football by a long chalk.

I still think fans should have come back anyway, but had we turned on the style in that Yeovil match I do think the next home game would have had a much larger attendance than we ended up with.

Otis · Feb 24, 2015

torchomatic said:
True, but the 16K who didn't turn up didn't know that in advance, did they?

No, not at all. At the time I was shocked at the drop. I was expecting around 18,000-20,000 maybe for that game. Still can't get my head round it, but what I am trying to say is in terms of the drop from 11,000. That was more like our 'normal' attendance.

I think the attendances dropped further and further because it was a bit like watching paint dry this season, Peterborough apart.

italiahorse · Feb 24, 2015

RFC said:
Football fans in general are fickle and the vast majority just love a good moan but Coventry City supporters appear to be much more negative than most.

Do you know a fan base that has been worse treated than us ?

The obsession regarding our owners takes the whole point and focus away from what we should all be doing, supporting the manager and the team, unfortunately another one 'bites the dust' and the timing is diabolical.

Something needed to change and it should have happened before Xmas. If I remember right you were against getting rid of SP.

When has changing the manager actually had a positive and lasting benefit to the Sky Blues even in the short term (can think of only one over the last 20yrs, Mark Robins and he jumped ship).

The reason is that the management have never really supported financially the managers over that period.

We are now looking for our 12th manager since Gordon Strachen was dismissed in 2001, not a record to be particularly proud of and my guess is that in a couple of years time exactly the same thing will happen.

Then get a fcuking good one !!!

I'd have stuck with 'Elvis' for the long-term, we'll have great difficulty in finding a more passionate and totally hard working and committed manager, would like to wish him all the best and good luck in the future.

Thanks for trying, but tactically inept and I suspect his man management skills were questionable.
IMHO he put a grudge with players over the good of the team.

Sky Blue Kid · Feb 24, 2015

torchomatic said:
Whilst true, I can't believe crowds dropped so dramatically just because of what Fisher said. After all, he's a liar, isn't he? Even if the new stadium did happen then we'll be at the Ricoh for a good few years yet, so the "But Fisher said" excuse is a little lame.

Couple of genuine points here Torchy....Why? when the vast majority of supporters thought SISU were finally doing something good for the fans, did Fisher wait till the very last minute of tickets and ST's being sold to open his big gob to burst the bubble of optimism running throughout the City supporters? Where did that "Full house" money go?..Certainly wasn't to the "Football Club" was it! It went straight to the fund of "Let's batter the f**k out of the Council in a NEW JR" again! It's as tho' they wait till funds are low then come up with a idea to "Curry favour" with the fans, take some more money off them then "Royally shaft them up the a**e" once again!

dongonzalos · Feb 24, 2015

skyblue1991 said:
We did win that game, the crowd dipped to just over 11,000 the week after...

11k in the third division is good going.

dongonzalos · Feb 24, 2015

Sub said:
RFC you defend everything SISU do which is your choice but seen as you are in the know when are we finding out about the new stadium and how will that benefit CCFC if CCFC do not own it?

To be fair he is finally criticising them for something

Ashdown · Feb 24, 2015

I repeat once again..........why do people reply to RFC ?? He's not for real, he's a WUM, nothing more and he's having you for a bunch of mugs every time !!

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Feb 24, 2015

dongonzalos said:
To be fair he is finally criticising them for something

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torchomatic · Feb 24, 2015

Agree, but the drop in attendance after the Gills game was pretty shocking. I really don't think the club can be blamed for that.

dongonzalos said:
11k in the third division is good going.

Gosford Green · Feb 24, 2015

I am going nowhere near the inside of the Ricoh unless we get owners that run the club as what it is, a football club. Instead of a loss leader while they chase fruitless court cases.

The bond between many fans and the team is broken and they do not seem to care or do any thing about building any sort of bridges.

Ashdown · Feb 24, 2015

Gillingham was an 'event' game as was Wasps first match there. Both clubs then suffered significant drops in attendance. The City match was an outpouring of optimism but soon to be pissed on by Fishers comments about moving on again, I still think that it would have dropped to around 15,000 even if he had kept his gob shut though. Oh and ticket sales/arrangements for the Yeovil match were once again a shambles, we queued for 25 mins to get in !

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