That idea ended up being what kickstarted the Skydome.1997 - Coventry Crusaders (remember them) wanted to build their own venue on the site: http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=10988
Hence the desire for mediation, I guess.They could make it much harder though, I'm sure
7 pages for something that is pure fantasy.
CCC planning portal. Coventry City Council: Planning Application Search, search for Butts.Can somebody show me where this 10-12k application that's is already in place?
7 pages for something that is pure fantasy.
CCC planning portal. Coventry City Council: Planning Application Search, search for Butts.
This lapsed in 2007 (per details in Decision notice)
R/2001/4962
22/10/2001 04/02/2002 Butts Stadium Butts Coventry Partial demolition and re-grading of existing sports ground and replacement with new rugby stadium incorporating three spectator stands, a business/leisure/function centre, new student residences, ancillary car parking, landscaping and access arrangements.
Can somebody show me where this 10-12k application that's is already in place?
CCC planning portal. Coventry City Council: Planning Application Search, search for Butts.
This lapsed in 2007 (per details in Decision notice)
R/2001/4962
22/10/2001 04/02/2002 Butts Stadium Butts Coventry Partial demolition and re-grading of existing sports ground and replacement with new rugby stadium incorporating three spectator stands, a business/leisure/function centre, new student residences, ancillary car parking, landscaping and access arrangements.
So basically CCFC/CRFC need to put an application in for a drive-in brothel alongside the one for a stadium, and the residents will be so fixated with that, they won't notice the stadium one.Looking at the objections, people seemed more bothered about the proposed student block than the stadium in itself.
What happened to having to own our own ground?Manchester United no longer own Old Trafford. Same for many clubs.
It disappeared into the ether somewhere along with the forever moving goalposts.What happened to having to own our own ground?
So basically CCFC/CRFC need to put an application in for a drive-in brothel alongside the one for a stadium, and the residents will be so fixated with that, they won't notice the stadium one.
And why didn't anything get built?As old fiver has pointed out to you the planning permission is already in place.
And why didn't anything get built?
I would say that they can't afford it. Do you really think that SISU will pay to build a stadium that they won't own?
That's the bit that confuses me. Fisher talks of having investors and that the Butts is the preferred option, but it will be Cov Rugby's stadium and they will own it, not us and we will pay rent to them.
Normally you would expect the funding for a stadium to come from the owners of the stadium, not the club renting off the owners of the stadium.
Now of course it could be argued that as Cov Rugby want a smaller capacity than us that Sisu are coughing up some of the funding for the stadium for the increased capacity (through investors), but then if that was the case surely we would part own the stadium wouldn't we and not just be tenants.
If this is Cov's baby then surely they should be arranging the investment and building the stadium. We would just be looking to rent it off them once it is built.
What is the investment for that Fisher is talking about?
Looking at that picture trains are constantly going to be travelling over one of the corner flagsView attachment 6853 View attachment 6854
'The BPA site is not big enough to house a stadium big enough.' - Myth debunked.
Above are two screen shots:
One of the Boavista stadium (28,263 capactiy) - Perimeter: 609.847m
One of the BPA site - Perimeter: 608.406m
It would need to be clever, and it would need to be rotated a little bit to fit the same guide as I have presented.
It could definitely work however, even if the chances of it getting off the ground are remote.
Looking at that picture trains are constantly going to be travelling over one of the corner flags
View attachment 6853 View attachment 6854
'The BPA site is not big enough to house a stadium big enough.' - Myth debunked.
Above are two screen shots:
One of the Boavista stadium (28,263 capactiy) - Perimeter: 609.847m
One of the BPA site - Perimeter: 608.406m
It would need to be clever, and it would need to be rotated a little bit to fit the same guide as I have presented.
It could definitely work however, even if the chances of it getting off the ground are remote.
Genuine question:
Does anyone actually believe fisher and that the butts would actually happen?
Like all things Sisu the proof is in the pudding and as of yet they have failed at every hurdle regarding the running of the football club when it comes to making deals for the good of the club. If JR2 goes ahead i would imagine any meetings with all parties will not be cordial or progressive and become the stumbling block to go ahead with any sort of deal. The CRFC dont need CCFC, they are set up and need the CCC more in terms of any further development of the area. Its an opinion but one founded on if they didn't want friends high in council chambers they would of certainly of gone forward and work with SIsu without due care and attention of issues down the line.
So the fact Sisu want round the table is an indication that they have come to understand moving away doesn't work, not having fan, business and political relationship within the city doesn't work. They still are in trouble as you can't take parties to court than stamp your feet when the people concerned don't want to play ball unless the threat goes away, its still a mess but at least most of the parties are willing to talk which is a start.
As for the meeting again Tim got an easy ride, he is very good at hiding comments that should be noted and making a louder noise to take everyone off topic. He is an illusionist and plays the part very well especially as the audience are keen to encourage the distraction instead of watching his hand. By abusing him, shouting at him or generally given him opportunity to pivot away from topics he should answer, he takes it as a get out of jail free card.
I would be more worried about his talk of the academy, general status of the club, funding the future and what is the plan of being in L2, instead he throws the butts at us and again all are talking about a possibility more so then what as a club is our immediate future. Tim would of slept easy last night and laughed while walking his dog before hitting the pillow, while we are still fighting over the dream world in Tims head. We need to get Tim with a small group of people with vetted questions and the ability to go back and fact check his words and timelines, not a crowd baying for blood and shouting abuse, i understand the feeling but do not see how abuse create any good debate or getting to what we are all searching for, the answers of what is really going on. Tim is good at this format, but by fuck we make it easy for him to escape.[/QUOTE)
Exactly.
Bullshit and Bluster. As usual.
Added to the previous threads about the Butts it's probably more like 237.7 pages for something that is pure fantasy.
Genuine question:
Does anyone actually believe fisher and that the butts would actually happen?
Then you need to probably go and get your eyes tested in case you end up walking out in front of one.
How long does it take you to walk there again?
Hence the desire for mediation, I guess.
A working relationship with the authority responsible for passing or rejecting applications can only be beneficial...
Les Reid pushing the Butts
We should just submit the application as Wasps. It'll get waved straight through then...
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